Miditerminal 4140 and XP

[Francis Belardino]

OK, so it works but not really.

System hangs for 45 seconds(at desktop)and then all is well.

I never had a day of trouble with this device under windows ME.

Any word on *real* drivers from Ego~sys?

They don\'t answer emails BTW ... but of course~!

[mschiff]

The Miditerminal 4140 works fine here under Windows 2000. No problems at all. Before that, I had a Midiman 8x8, and it NEVER worked right on the same machine.

-- Martin

[Francis Belardino]

...And the info on their website is misleading.

One page says to install drivers ver 1.0 for XP but when you download it says the drivers are for 2000 only.

Another page says you must install drivers 2.5...

That\'s the driver causing the system hang.

Oh, and you have to change your port settings to ECC in the BIOS mode. Still a system hang.

The worse part was uninstalling all of the drivers....system still hangs. Had to reinstall XP (2 hours)


Not at all happy. Not to mention I have an Opcode Studio 64x that wont work as well images/icons/frown.gif

[Rob Elliott]

Francis,

You\'re not going to like this but the best thing I ever did was dump my miditerminal (using XP) and purchase a MOTU Micro express. Absolutely no problems since the change. I think Simon suggested to me and it has really worked out. Hope this helps.

Rob

[Francis Belardino]

Yikes! That would make it my THRID MIDI device images/icons/frown.gif

Hey, I think Simon had probs with the device under Win98se as well. It rocks in ME.

My head hurts images/icons/frown.gif

[Didier Rachou]

Francis,

Sorry to hear about your woes with the 4140.

I have several systems built by Craig and James at MixAudio. All of them use the 4140 and run on XP.

Aside from the VERY occassional loss of communication between the 4140 and GIGA (usually when the boxes are running for several days), it runs extremely well. This is annoying at times, but rare and a small price to pay for such power. I will get to the bottom of it though when I have a minute to put down my pencil.

Perhaps they can be of help and sort out your troubles.

Regards,
Didier

[Francis Belardino]

I can not thank you enough~!

As I said, the device has always worked perfectly
under WindowsME. Never a drop off or anything of the kind.

It\'s just the lock up at the start menu in XP that is killing it. It works but I can\'t deal with that lock up time (and should not have to)

Do you kow what driver version they, or you are using? 1.1 or 2.5 ?

[Simon Ravn]

Stay clear of EgoSys and MAYA.... images/icons/smile.gif

[Didier Rachou]

Francis,

I do know that the strict instructions that came with my Gigas were ALWAYS wait 30 seconds before launching.


That is because of the 4140 and having it come \"online\" so to speak. Small price to pay whenever I boot up. I have had to live with much more bizarre idiosyncratic computer behaviour in the past.

I am using the 2.5 driver.

What can you do? Now to solve those temperamental interface communication breakdowns...... Oi!

Regards,
Didier

PS if you would like an email address for Mixaudio tech support, let me know.

[Francis Belardino]

Ooooh, so you are saying that you to have the start up hang and that you were told that it is normal behavor with the MT4140 running in XP???

Glad your here.
Frank

[Didier Rachou]

Francis,

I just edited my post stating that I use the 2.5 driver.

Yes, instructions were to boot up, wait about 30secs (then I believe there is a little \"soft LED\" that flashes in the menubar by the driver icon...dont hold me to that as I am usually doing something else as I boot up......I have become conditioned to accept my usual 30second fate!) then launch GIGA.

Sorry for the unnecessarily long and convoluted run-on sentence.

Hope this helps. New cut just arrived, gotta get back to work.

Didier

[Francis Belardino]

Well it\'s comforting to know that you have the same 30 seconds...but, I don\'t believe this is a normal reaction.

Maybe Egosys will take on this issue and build a proper driver.

Again, thank you.
Frank

[KingIdiot]

hmm,...

I\'ve never had a problem with my wamirack.

and no probs with the new Waveterminal. So I recommend those Egosys products images/icons/smile.gif

30 seconds might be a bit extreme, but if its only at start up, it wouldn\'t bother me, but I\'m not a speed freak like Francis. Otherwise I\'d hate loading gigs in to giga

[Francis Belardino]

\"30 seconds might be a bit extreme, but if its only at start up, it wouldn\'t bother me, but I\'m not a speed freak like Francis.\"

Ohh, you\'re a riot! You\'re a regualr riot!
Ha ha ha ha.

Sup King?

The 30 secs or so, is in startup of your system...

You see you desktop but you can not open anyting or click on anything for atleast 30 seconds or more. You have to addmit...that sucks.

It\'s crazy cuz the 4140 worked soooo well under ME and ME sucks. LOL

We have 3 Whami24 racks locked up in the windows room at the studio... under XP... rocks!

[KingIdiot]

yah it sucks, but maybe I\'m still used to the whole get your coffee while you start your system routine images/icons/smile.gif

Actually I\'ve got too many computers to really notice 30 seconds. There\'s always something to tweak on the others. Lay off the caffiene maybe that\'ll help images/icons/tongue.gif images/icons/wink.gif hehee

[Francis Belardino]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, LOL LOL LOL\\

Oh, man...you are so right.

Where the hell IS my coffee by the way?

LOL LOL LOL

The King has spoken!

[Didier Rachou]

Originally posted by Francis Belardino:

You see you desktop but you can not open anyting or click on anything for atleast 30 seconds or more. You have to addmit...that sucks.

[/QB]<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Sorry, Francis, i read these things too quickly sometimes. i have to wait 30 secs, but NOTHING is hung up. I can click on whatever I want etc. It is just that i was told to wait 30 secs to launch Giga, in order to give the system enough time to prepare itself for the usual onslaught of polyphony that is to follow.

Now back to MY coffee. Late nite tonite.

Regards,
Didier

[Francis Belardino]

Yes, late nite... same here. images/icons/smile.gif

Ah, I thought that 30 second hang was bad news.

Maybe the damm thing is looking for an IRQ or something ~ I give up for now images/icons/confused.gif

Thanks again.

[Simon Ravn]

Its a fact that a lot of people have had trouble with the 4140 MIDI interface and have bought replacement interfaces because of this (me included). I have never had troubles with a MIDI interface like this before. Crashing drivers (sometimes upon installation too), suddenly disappearing MIDI (reboot and re-activate hardware to fix it), hanging notes etc etc. This is obviously a low quality product without a lot of testing gone into making sure it actually works. And EgoSys\' support is bad to non-existant. What\'s also with the idea of taking power off the keyboard port?!?!

Therefore I am never gonna buy this cr*p again. And then it doesnt help that they started making interfaces under the MAYA name - that won\'t trick me:))

30 seconds... that would be kinda unacceptable to me, since I have GS auto-loading when I boot so I can just turn on the machines and do something else while the samples load.

[Scott Cairns]

Hi, Windows 2000 drivers and XP are one and the same. It shouldnt matter which ones you use. Behind the scenes Windows 2000 is actually classed as NT 5 and XP is NT 5.1 - XP is more of a cosmetic face-lift of Windows 2000 than a major re-writing of an operating system.

Also, do you have any networking devices installed? I have have seen Win2k and XP desktops \"hang\" for a short while when it is establishing its network connections.

Regards, Scott.

[SCARBEE]

Hey Francis,

I use the same midi interface in XP without problems - I use the latest drivers fro Egosys web.

But please study this thread and do what Rocket suggest. He saved my marriage... images/icons/wink.gif

http://www.tascam.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22526 (\"http://www.tascam.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22526\")

regards

[SCARBEE]

Another hint:

De-install the midi-driver and remove all signs of it! Then do the install from safe-start.
Be suere you have no irq conflicts.

[Francis Belardino]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to say thank you for all the help.

Still working on the issue here.

Simon, as I said before... this unit always worked for me when I used WindowsME. Never had any of the probs you did. I think it\'s a great unit for the money and the fact the it reads and writes SMPTE is a major factor for me.

Anywho... truth be told, I am afraid to install this driver again. Got my system so well tunned now... but, well, anayway, you guys rock!!

Thanks again! images/icons/grin.gif

[Francis Belardino]

Originally posted by SCARBEE:
Another hint:

De-install the midi-driver and remove all signs of it! Then do the install from safe-start.
Be suere you have no irq conflicts. <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Hey Scarbee images/icons/smile.gif

I have nothing of this unit installed at this point. I did a complete FDisk and reinstall of XP to get rid of that hang time.

I set my printer port to \"use an IRQ address\" as told by EGO~SYS but, have not installed the driver yet.... (chewing on nails now)

Anyway, my printer port is living on IRQ 7 and is the only device with this number.

That seems like a good start, right?

[SCARBEE]

ooooooh!
images/icons/shocked.gif
I have been there many times!

Once a year we MUST go through that PC install hell images/icons/rolleyes.gif

Good luck!

[SCARBEE]

Originally posted by KingIdiot:
yah it sucks, but maybe I\'m still used to the whole get your coffee while you start your system routine<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Talking about coffee - auch! just after finishing the R.S.P. \'73 I lost a cup down in my 88 wiighted Fatar keyboard and lost 4 notes... images/icons/blush.gif

Yeah I know... images/icons/wink.gif NEVER DO IT - but you see the phone called and I dropped the phone while I had a cup in my hand - instinctly I tried to grab it and... yes I spilled it right down the keys images/icons/mad.gif

I haven\'t had time to fix it yet and it is really annoying images/icons/confused.gif

Lesson learned: Don\'t put coffe close to your keyboard!!!!

[KingIdiot]

ouch Scarbee images/icons/smile.gif

I haven\'t had it happen yet, but I\'m sure it will at some point...