Top Orchestrator?

[Z6]

Lots of very impressive stuff from lots of people.

Thomas J always impresses me with his compositons, orchestrations and recording and, although Duncan Brinsmead seems to have almost just started out doing mock-ups, there is something very special in his work.

There are certainly at least half a dozen other guys who do great stuff and may be more experienced than the two I mention, but I know others will throw their names out and I wanted to make sure my two personal faves get a mention.

[dwdonehoo]

Thomas J has always made it real, even in the beginnig with limited samples. All around top guy who will be successful.
Simon R, Maarten and Damon would be next in line in my opinion.

[KingIdiot]

me!!!!

mwahahaha!

nah just kidding, I think the most consistantly good is Thomas J, but he\'s not the only good one here.

other top guys on this forum are (IMO)

Simon Ravn - great full sounds, in his pieces.

Maarten Spruijt - listen to his \"Metamorphose\" track and tell me thats not one of the coolest tracks you\'ve ever heard

Tobias (tob) Marberger - Media Ventures sound all the way, and he\'s great at it.

[Hasen]

Thomas J. He\'s way ahead of everyone else not just with orchestration but with getting the most out of his samples. There\'s lots of other good people here though, so many with similar abilities really. Only Thomas particularly shines above everyone else IMO.

[A_Sapp]

Thomas\'s work is the only one that I\'ve heard where initially I ask myself, \"What orchestra played that.\" If a mock-up can do that, than there\'s something really special about that. Aside from technical abilities, his compositional abilities are inspiring, better than many film composers that I\'ve heard. *bowing* Very mature sounding, and his bombastic stuff makes for chicken skin.

[tob]

Yeah, the best orchestral mockups ive heard is from Thomas but hes not flashing with his talent here much now.... (its now you post some of your new incredible tunes) images/icons/wink.gif

/Tobias

[MikeGraybill]

Thomas\' sampled works inspire. Listening to them reminds me of what these machines are capable of producing, and this always makes me want to sit down and work harder.

I also think Thomas should be emperor of the world... does that disqualify my vote? images/icons/tongue.gif

[Does It Matter?]

Wow, could someone please post links to some work done by Thomas J?

It must be inspiring the way he is getting universal support at this forum.

[Hans Adamson]

I have to concur. Thomas Bergersen is #1. Get him if you can...

I\'d like to add, that there was a time when Thomas was accused of presenting real recordings as midi mock-ups by a few major guys on this forum. That\'s how good his work is.

Hans

[Hasen]

Originally posted by Does It Matter?:
Wow, could someone please post links to some work done by Thomas J?

It must be inspiring the way he is getting universal support at this forum.<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">I think he took all his demos offline but you\'ll find his latest public offering at www.projectsam.com (\"http://www.projectsam.com\")

Its called Flight To Rivendell.

[Lewis]

Well. There have been quite some debates whether there has been use of phrasesamples in Thomas J works - and that issue was never actually cleared. I think its important to keep in notion that people can/could be \"cheating\" here. I myself have a scepticism towards some of the demos that were posted last year - and I am sure I am not alone on that one.

I am not saying that people ARE using \"magic tricks\" - but I am not saying the opposite either.

Critically and probably hated now -

Chris

[Nick Phoenix]

Lewis,
I originally got roped into that whole debate. In the end, Thomas said that he used a few custom phrase samples. Still, his stuff sounds great and it\'s probably no-one\'s buisiness what he uses. We will have very little time before NAMM to put together demos and that\'s where the library will really shine, I think. We will be asking Thomas for help with demos, but also others.

[Thomas_J]

Wow some really nice support here guys! I\'m blushing as I read all your kind words. It truely means a lot to me! Still I think I\'m getting way too much attention in this thread. I think there are some very talented guys on this forum! Names have already been mentioned.

My primary goal has always been to compose good orchestral music. Samples are constantly getting in the way of realizing my ideas, but can sometimes work for the better! Great samples can be incredibly inspiring to work with and open up new possibilities when you\'re feeling the dreaded composer\'s block crawling up your neck.

Regarding the issue of me being a hoax I have nothing more to say. Feel free to debate on this topic till you turn blue, I promise I wont get in your way.

With QL Symphonic Orchestra demos I think the most important thing is to give the potential buyers a good taste of what the samples SOUND like. I think sound is more important than the amount of gigabytes sampled. Users should be able to hear if this particular sound is something they want. A great set of demos should consist of typical usage of the various instruments, covering range and dynamics.

For example a fairly short piece for full orchestra (preferably a piece people know) - it could be broken down bit by bit, revealing each instrument group as a seperate demo. People would be able to judge for themselves whether this is something they want or not.
Who cares if the composition is great or not? even the worst composition can sound incredible if it\'s orchestrated well and played by a great orchestra. In the end we just want the sounds if they sound good.

Those are just my thoughts, take them for what they are worth. Certainly less than 2 cents images/icons/smile.gif

Edit: Yes Nick, I do use several phrases including trills, woodwind runs and double tonguings etc. But they are only there to realize my ideas in a way that does not make me cringe.

Thomas

[Lewis]

All points taken into consideration here I agree with Nick and Thomas. I simply cant wait for the QL Orchestra Demos to be released - because with the Vienna shock I need something to ease me down again. I need something with a fat ambience that finally convince me that its actually possible to do an orchestral setup that sounds right. When I say \"sounds right\" I am ONLY thinking about a classical setup for movies. I dont care whether it can play violinsolos or not. But I care that its powerfull, biting, immense, touching, moving and with the ability to tell me that Hanz Zimmer is not the only lucky guy in the world.

Sigh.

Nick. I need a date - and I need it now. WHEN will the demo be released. I demand to know! I think God is talking directly through as we speak.

; )

Love - Chris

[dougrogers]

There have been many orchestral demos placed on this site over the years. We would welcome any feedback as to who forum participants regard as a consistently superb orchestrator (using samples).

We realise there will be a diversity of opinion, however, one name may surface that will help us.

Forum participants are welcome to send us any links to their own demos privately also. If you do this, please identify the libraries you used for each instrument.

Thanks in anticipation,

Doug Rogers
EASTWEST

[tob]

Originally posted by Lewis:
All points taken into consideration here I agree with Nick and Thomas. I simply cant wait for the QL Orchestra Demos to be released - because with the Vienna shock I need something to ease me down again. I need something with a fat ambience that finally convince me that its actually possible to do an orchestral setup that sounds right. When I say \"sounds right\" I am ONLY thinking about a classical setup for movies. I dont care whether it can play violinsolos or not. But I care that its powerfull, biting, immense, touching, moving and with the ability to tell me that Hanz Zimmer is not the only lucky guy in the world.

Sigh.

Nick. I need a date - and I need it now. WHEN will the demo be released. I demand to know! I think God is talking directly through as we speak.

; )

Love - Chris<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">AMEN!!! gotta say i totally agree images/icons/grin.gif Its about time that a complete professional library with that BIG sound hit the market!!!

/Tobias

[lex]

Originally posted by Lewis:

Nick. I need a date - and I need it now.

Love - Chris<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">LOL!

You are desperate ,aren\'t you? images/icons/wink.gif

Alex

[Leon Willett]

Thomas_J,

What are you up to these days? You know, your pieces are what inspired me to get GS, and start writing orchestral music. Do you have a website, any projects of interest?

I\'m just curious what you\'re doing currently, as we haven\'t seen stuff from you in a while.

Leon

[Lewis]

Hehehehe.

I am beyound desperation. I think its important to state once again - that God is talking directly through me - when I adressed Nick the QL Orch. issue. God is not wrong and I have confidence that Nicks upcoming work wont be either.

Love - Chris

[KingIdiot]

oh BTW, someone else who seems to do a pretty good job, is this guy Nick Pheonix, but from what I hear the guy is crazy busy, so good luck getting him to help.

[Lewis]

Really! You are an idiot!

Hehehe.

Love - Chris

[timzydee]

I\'d love the opportunity to do some demos for a new library. Besides scoring several short films over the last ten years, I recently one First Prize in the Turner Classic Movies Young Film Composer\'s Competition. You can hear some of my demos at...

DEMOS (\"http://www.swgames.com/timzydee\")

[Lewis]

Why is it that I sometimes find some members onNorthern Sounds somewhere between informative and selvproclaiming? Could somebody enlighten me please? Somebody who is not flashing their medals, maybe?

Love - Chris

[lex]

Hey Lewis!

You truly need a date, you sound like a real *****.
Nick, can you find him a date since he asked you for help.

LeX