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Hi, I read one of your posts on getting rid of the pops on the gigapiano when playing fast groups of notes, etc. Sorry to be a bit of a pain, but I don\'t understand anything past set hard drives to DMA mode.
ie. disk compression, disable windows animation, edit win.ini file/autoexec.bat/config.sys (don\'t you need all that stuff), vcache, and disable write behind disk caching.
I\'d really appreciate any help or if you could point me in the direction of more info on these that would real handy.
Thanks
Phil
LHong
09-30-2000, 10:18 PM
There are something you could check one or more as follows:
1> Defrag the harddisk, once every 1~3 months
2> Make sure the USB is not being used or video card in the AGP slot rather than a PCI (Some of soundcard vendors recommend it)
3> Make sure your GSIF driver is the latest.
4> The current V2.025 could solve that problem, but please note that it would be a problem if your system is lower than 300MB-RAM (un-stable within about less than an hour). Someone reports the 2.019 is stable! how is yours? I found on the V2.025 is also reduced the Voice polyphony about 10~20% compared to the V2.0. It means that you will get less polyphony after a few bugs have been fixed.
5> Multiple fast harddrives would helps
6> Avoid to have an IDE-HD for Giga/audio as same as IDE cable with the CDROM-DRIVE
7> Faster CPU (900MH~1GH) and more DRAM(512-768M@133) would helps
8> Better GSIF and multiclient would helps
9> in the MIDI-Audio Seq program, try to change the latency setting (25~92ms), block size like 64-256 would helps.
10> Try to run only Piano track or use the Master-Ctrl keyboard to see if the pops and cracles are disappeared or not...make sure the CPU/MEM performace reading by Giga less than 75%. (your system is running out of resources) need to upgrade? or the optimization is not quite best.
11> The Vcache setting also is very important for large program like the Gigapiano, it would be required about min=max=~60K~100K based-on the 320~512MB-RAM.
12> When you are running the GigaStudio and the Seq-program, check your windows system resource (System property, performance), you should have about not less than \"25% Free\", to keep the system very stable. Otherwise, it might cause a problem as well.
Conclusion: To run the Gigapiano in high polyphony without crackes/click/pop is a tough job. Not only you and it is true that many of us were/are having same problems, why? I see the Gigastudio is currenly used up to 50~75% system resources...Even you have tweaked to the best taking performance that only can be gained to 5~15% CPU/MEM. So the good solution for the GigaStudio is still the supper faster CPU and larger amount RAM???
Hope this helps,
LHong
[This message has been edited by LHong (edited 09-30-2000).]
Thanks, I\'ll try upgrading to the new version first and see what happens. The system I\'m using should be ok PIII 800 384 RAM, but could maybe use some faster hard drives. I\'m using a Sblive at the moment because it\'s in the machine, but will probably get GSIF compatible powersampler or mixtreme soon (suggestions?). One other thing, where are the vcache settings and how do I change them?
Thanks
Phil
LHong
10-01-2000, 11:21 PM
1> About Vcache setting, Search for the Vcache in the system.ini, yours is about 384x256 = 98,304 (min=max) +/- 10%
2> About the GSIF soundcards:
+++ a> I see someone\'s here is successful with the SB, So with the PIII-800/384 should be working fine (see other posts about polyphony). To solve the current problems, you might not need to upgrade it!
+++ b> The mixtreme or power-sampler should be a good GSIF for the GigaStudio, when you want 16 Output Channels with the hardware DSP for final mixing with effect-processing. I also see some reports without the problem.
+++ c> Voice polyphony, like I said earlier, CPU? MEM? soundcard? harddisk? GSIF driver? output channels? NFX? audio track? program patches? the way you play??? they could make the h*ll of differences in Giga Polyphony!
Congratulation when it reachs 160 voices (without problems) when you have Orchestra, giagpiano, harps, rhodes tracks in same sequencer...
Good lucks,
mdfmuse
10-05-2000, 05:29 PM
Hello. I have created an Adobe Acrobat PDF file containing all the tips I used to optimize my Windows computer for GigaStudio. These include disk speed tips, system-level tips, etc. All of the included information I obtained over the last year via sites on the Internet; most all sites were recommended by other Giga users on this Giga forum. I have simply collected these tips together and placed them all into the PDF file. You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view the file (available free at www.adobe.com). (\"http://www.adobe.com).\") Obviously I cannot promise you that these tips I\'ve collected will help in your particular situation, but they did help me very much! Please post your email address here in this topic if you would like me to email a copy of the tips to you. I\'d be glad to help out in this way!
Chadwick
10-05-2000, 10:40 PM
Hey mdfmuse!
Please count me in.:
chadwick@optushome.com.au
A guy I know has an ex Fairlight techy pulling his system apart and documenting every improvement/problem he experiences.
If he doesn\'t mind, I\'ll post it when he\'s done.
Thanks mdfmuse, it\'s
philsfinger@aol.com
jphardy
10-06-2000, 07:42 AM
Thanks, mdfmuse. jphardy@mindspring.com
algae
10-06-2000, 10:26 AM
count me in
alangae@sympatico.ca
Duncan Brinsmead
10-06-2000, 12:41 PM
Me too!
dbrins@aw.sgi.com
haewss
10-06-2000, 01:35 PM
Hi mdfmuse, please send me a copy of your PDF-File too:
Stephan.Haewss@gmx.de
Thanks
The Valley
10-06-2000, 02:10 PM
Thanks mdfmuse. My address is fuzpop@aol.com
clueless
10-06-2000, 08:46 PM
Hi mdfmuse,I would like a copy of your PDF file.
Thanks
hrodgar@chartertn.net
Kenn159
10-07-2000, 01:29 AM
Mdfmuse
I would also like you to send me a copy.
here\'s my email music2@ij.net
thanks , Ken
ursatz
10-07-2000, 09:05 AM
Me too (I feel like I\'m an AOLer!)
wkcl@pacbell.net
Thanks!
KingIdiot
10-07-2000, 01:30 PM
yes please http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif
ohthat@earthlink.net
Maybe post the pdf on a website. there are several Gigasites that would be willing to help. Worra?
mdfmuse
10-08-2000, 02:15 AM
I have emailed the PDF tip document to all the above who requested it. Hope this helps solve some of your audio problems!
In that case please send me one too at kaat.vervenne@online.be
Magpel
10-09-2000, 12:44 PM
I would like that PDF also.
jnb17@aol.com
Please send me that PDF file too.
login183@home.com
Thanks.
Damon
10-09-2000, 09:32 PM
I\'d love to get that PDF file also when you get the chance.
Thanks!
Damon
hpaylin@aol.com
djuth
10-10-2000, 07:30 AM
I\'d love a copy of this, if it\'s not trouble -- djuth@erols.com.
Thanks!
ricren
10-17-2000, 09:57 PM
Please, send me that PDF. I really need it!
cheers
Ric
yrjiok
10-18-2000, 02:26 PM
Can I have the PDF too?
Thanks a lot
yrjiok@ifrance.com
hancor
10-19-2000, 01:10 AM
I would also be interested in your pdf file
hancor@telus.net
hancor@msn.com
rbegg@lynx.bc.ca
Thanks in advance for your research.
Regards
Hans
mdfmuse
10-19-2000, 04:02 AM
Hi. I\'ve emailed all the latest requests- hope this helps.
RICREN: I need your email address in order to send you the PDF file- please post it here and I\'ll get a copy to you.
kennedyconnor
10-19-2000, 09:55 PM
Good idea....kcconnor@pacbell.net
Damian Smith
11-03-2000, 12:20 AM
I\'d love to get that PDF file. My e-mail address is bespoke@bigpond.net.au .
Rickgo
11-03-2000, 12:42 AM
MDFMUSE; tHANKS FOR YOUR HELP
RICKRBTSGO@AOL.COM
yes please!
your pdf will be highly appreciated at
tomo.cueni@bluewin.ch
thx
Mikael
11-04-2000, 06:20 AM
Could I please have one to!?
Mike
mikael.todoran@telia.com
[This message has been edited by Mikael (edited 11-04-2000).]
Calvin
11-04-2000, 02:06 PM
Hi mdfmuse,
can I have a copy to :)
Thanks
malcolm@mclift.fsnet.co.uk
WTrachtman
11-05-2000, 03:50 PM
I\'ll take a copy also.
e-mail to :
WTrachtman@wstco.com
If it\'s OK with you, I\'ll post it, or include any new recommendations for optimization to the list I already have at:
http://www.wstco.com/pianosounds/GigasamplerMemoryOptimization.htm (\"http://www.wstco.com/pianosounds/GigasamplerMemoryOptimization.htm\")
Regards,
Warren Trachtman
Chris Beck
11-05-2000, 04:03 PM
Why don\'t you contact Northern Sounds and see if they\'ll post it on the site?
Oh well, in the meantime, ME TOO PLEASE! http://209.15.164.171/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif http://209.15.164.171/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif
- Chris Beck
jeancbeck@earthlink.net
Chris Beck
11-05-2000, 04:08 PM
(I douple posted... argh)
[This message has been edited by Chris Beck (edited 11-05-2000).]
Giorgio Tommasini
11-06-2000, 02:23 AM
I would also appreciate a copy of your file.
Thank you in advance.
giortomm@iol.it
Danny Lux
11-06-2000, 04:54 PM
Please send me your file too.
Thanks
dannylux@excite.com
mdfmuse
11-06-2000, 06:59 PM
\"If it\'s OK with you, I\'ll post it, or include any new recommendations for optimization to the list I already have at: http://www.wstco.com/pianosounds/GigasamplerMemoryOptimization.htm (\"http://www.wstco.com/pianosounds/GigasamplerMemoryOptimization.htm\")
Thanks, WTrachtman! I found these tips to be very helpful with my Giga system- please post on your site so others can sort out Giga problems!
-mdfmuse
WTrachtman
11-07-2000, 04:35 AM
Hi mdfmuse,
Thanks for the file. These tips are already/originally posted on the studio201 website at: http://studio201.com/cwu/support/vst/win95.html (\"http://studio201.com/cwu/support/vst/win95.html\")
and are still available there.
Rather than post the 1 megabyte pdf file reformatting of the studio201 html pages, I\'ll check each of the points against the list I already have on my own optimization page and include any which are not already included.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Warren Trachtman
http://www.wstco.com/pianosounds/ (\"http://www.wstco.com/pianosounds/\")
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