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robin123
08-12-2002, 07:32 PM
is there somebody out there who thinks if he will hit some big time money will head up to produce a top notch FREE orchestral library!!!!

and if some one ends up producing a monstrous free library what will be the future of commercial product???

this is one of my big time dreams to create a free top notch orchestral library but right now i\'m just too poor to buy even the existing ones images/icons/grin.gif

Six Black Roses
08-12-2002, 10:31 PM
If I would, for example, win the lottery and be a rich sucker with 300 million dollars, I would VERY much indeed create free libraries.

I\'d just have the thrill of knowing I\'m putting people out of business... people who charge just way too much for libraries simply because the demand isn\'t high enough to replenish the expenses.

With the realism provide, I might as well buy the real instrument for just a little more. Of course, a $200,000 Steinway isn\'t something I\'d rather pay for than a $500 sample, but the point is in that usually, things don\'t work this way.

Besides... I\'d need a way to rid myself of the money. This would be a great way to make people all over the world happy! I\'m not saying a lot of this would be used to make GOOD music... but hey... there\'s crap, then there\'s gold.

Kobb
08-12-2002, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Six Black Roses:
I\'d just have the thrill of knowing I\'m putting people out of business... people who charge just way too much for libraries simply because the demand isn\'t high enough to replenish the expenses.<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">You might want to try a bit harder not to SOUND like you\'re just a smart *** teenager.

Nothing repulses me more than such blatant disrespect for the people who invest so much time, cash, and effort to put all these great sounds at our fingertips (even if I can\'t afford them all).

Six Black Roses
08-13-2002, 12:09 AM
Oh I\'m sorry. I had no right to say that. I mean. Yeah. I really know nothing because I\'m a teenager. That MUST be it. Teenagers are always dumb. It\'s like a rule of logic. Hey, it\'s common sense to feel superior to someone simply because of being older than one.

flavio
08-13-2002, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by robin123:
is there somebody out there who thinks if he will hit some big time money will head up to produce a top notch FREE orchestral library!!!!

and if some one ends up producing a monstrous free library what will be the future of commercial product???

this is one of my big time dreams to create a free top notch orchestral library but right now i\'m just too poor to buy even the existing ones images/icons/grin.gif <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Dream on.

Damon
08-13-2002, 03:17 AM
I believe asianprince is coming out with a free orchestral library. images/icons/tongue.gif
http://www.geocities.com/asianprince213/ (\"http://www.geocities.com/asianprince213/\")

rediesisminore
08-13-2002, 03:59 AM
Originally posted by Six Black Roses:
I\'d just have the thrill of knowing I\'m putting people out of business... people who charge just way too much for libraries simply because the demand isn\'t high enough to replenish the expenses.
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">When you will earn your life you will want to be paid for your job. The better the quality the more you would ask. If your thoughts are really coherents ones then you should honestly work for free. There are people who did so in their life, they were very coherent persons.

I\'ve just read a book about the hungarian mathematician Paul Erdos, one of the smartest minds of 20th century, who spent his whole life (he died more than 80 years old) travelling through the whole world and being guest of his collegues and universities. He only owned two half empty suitcases and spent the whole day 19 hrs/24 doing and thinking about numbers. He published more than 1500 articles and produced the most elegant solutions to very difficult problems in the theory of numbers. He thought of math as a challenge against God, almost a divine kind of art. Everything he earned he gave to students or simply poor people he met in the street (of course he never had a family or a house or... anything, just his mother and many difficulties being an hungarian).

If you really think what you say that\'s the way. But you will not have a right to impose it to the others, just give one more example to follow images/icons/wink.gif



Of course, a $200,000 Steinway isn\'t something I\'d rather pay for than a $500 sample, but the point is in that usually, things don\'t work this way.
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">...and of course samples are far away from the world of real acoustic instruments (no matter if Steinways or not). If you can play them.



Besides... I\'d need a way to rid myself of the money. This would be a great way to make people all over the world happy!
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">That\'s a good thing ideed!

Roberto

Kobb
08-13-2002, 06:14 AM
Careful, Black Rose boy, or I\'ll take away your car keys.

PolarBear
08-13-2002, 06:15 AM
Originally posted by Damon:
I believe asianprince is coming out with a free orchestral library. images/icons/tongue.gif
http://www.geocities.com/asianprince213/ (\"http://www.geocities.com/asianprince213/\")<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Hey Damon, still got it in your favorites?! images/icons/cool.gif

Kobb
08-13-2002, 06:27 AM
And by the way - I think there are some other teenagers on this BBS who are quite cool. And perhaps you are too, Black Roses, but when you make comments about the sheer glee of putting people out of business I have to assume that it\'s the immature side of your personality shining through.

We all say stupid, ignorant things when we\'re teenagers. We all say stupid, ignorant things as adults. . But hopefully, these sort of statements decrease over time with experience. If you had to work to make a living for yourself and possibly a family, I think you\'d be a bit less proud to drive people out of business.

I\'ll step off my soapbox now.

MrArkadine
08-13-2002, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by rediesisminore:
Ruben, I\'ve just done a search on altavista about \"Paul Erdos\" and found >18000 results!

You may want to check the link:

www.paulerdos.com (\"http://www.paulerdos.com\")

it\'s a site by the author of the book.

Roberto<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Roberto,

Excelent information! Thanks a lot, I can tell right away that Paul Erdos was an intriguing, excentric, and fascinating person. I am a Math major myself, so maybe it even makes it more interesting to my eyes. And, confirms that we\'re a bunch of weirdos images/icons/smile.gif

I\'m going to check out some of the info that you have given me and, heck, I might even buy the book!

Take Care,

Ruben

Scott Speed
08-13-2002, 01:20 PM
Actually, we\'ve been seeing this to a certain extent already, and it\'s been one of the coolest developments on this board to date...Thomas J released some great panflute samples, Tobias and his church percussion, Worra released a demo French Horn sample, and of course, the SAM trumpets and timpani...
These samples are better than anything I could have dreamed of when I first got my trusty old Emax a century or two ago, and they\'re all very useable...I\'m not so sure about someone recording an entire orchestra due to the financial and monetary issues, but that doesn\'t diminish the value fo some of the stuff that\'s already been released by some very generous people willing to share their talents and skills in sample creation. I think it\'s a trend that will continue, too.

Regards,
Scott


Originally posted by robin123:
is there somebody out there who thinks if he will hit some big time money will head up to produce a top notch FREE orchestral library!!!!

and if some one ends up producing a monstrous free library what will be the future of commercial product???

this is one of my big time dreams to create a free top notch orchestral library but right now i\'m just too poor to buy even the existing ones images/icons/grin.gif <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">

MrArkadine
08-13-2002, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by rediesisminore:

I\'ve just read a book about the hungarian mathematician Paul Erdos, one of the smartest minds of 20th century, who spent his whole life (he died more than 80 years old) travelling through the whole world and being guest of his collegues and universities. He only owned two half empty suitcases and spent the whole day 19 hrs/24 doing and thinking about numbers. He published more than 1500 articles and produced the most elegant solutions to very difficult problems in the theory of numbers. He thought of math as a challenge against God, almost a divine kind of art. Everything he earned he gave to students or simply poor people he met in the street (of course he never had a family or a house or... anything, just his mother and many difficulties being an hungarian).

<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Roberto,

I never heard of Paul Erdos, but he sounds like the type of fellow you could do a movie on! Very interesting, thanks.

Ruben

rediesisminore
08-13-2002, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by MrArkadine:
Roberto,

I never heard of Paul Erdos, but he sounds like the type of fellow you could do a movie on! Very interesting, thanks.

Ruben<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Ruben,

I\'m indeed almost astonished that a movie has been done on John Nash (\"A beautiful mind\") as after reading about Paul Erdos I also had the same reaction as yours!

If you are interested the book is:
\"The Man Who Loved Only Numbers\" by Paul Hoffman (1998)

I have the italian edition so I can\'t tell who is the original editor. Anyway it\'s the kind of book you read in two days (I did it on the beach!)

Have fun,

Roberto

rediesisminore
08-13-2002, 11:49 PM
Ruben, I\'ve just done a search on altavista about \"Paul Erdos\" and found >18000 results!

You may want to check the link:

www.paulerdos.com (\"http://www.paulerdos.com\")

it\'s a site by the author of the book.

Roberto

Jan
08-14-2002, 07:32 AM
Thanks for the tip about Paul Erdos, Roberto. From the little information I have read about him, he seems to be a fascinating character. That\'s why I just ordered the book you mentioned.