Thank you for 1.2.1

[Chaim Goldman]

Thank you NI. DFD is king!!!

You added - Create empty group. Thank You. But I still need - \'Create Clone\' Group. (besides - Move to clone Group - that\'s there already).

Many times we need to edit the start of a sample in the loop editor. So one wants to zoom in at the start piont. But the zoom is centered to the middle of the sample. Can we have an anchor button to anchor the zoom to the start piont? I\'m shure many people want this.

Also being able to set many samples at once for \'one shot\'.

I realize two boxes in 1.2.1 for inserting key switch keys. In 1.2 there was only one. What\'s the second for?

When creating a sample library, a lot of editing is involved. Focusing that Kontakt should bee \'very\' easy and fast on editing would make this super machine an even better product!

Thanks again and keep up the good work.
Chaim Goldman
New York

[Martin Jann]

Hi Chaim,

thanks for your appriciation post.

To your questions:

> You added - Create empty group. Thank You. But I still need - \'Create Clone\' Group. (besides - Move to clone Group - that\'s there already).

Thats on our list already, but I don´t know yet how easy this is to implement. I´ll check this.

> Also being able to set many samples at once for \'one shot\'.

Also on our list. Hopefully this feature will make it into the next update.

> I realize two boxes in 1.2.1 for inserting key switch keys. In 1.2 there was only one. What\'s the second for?

Well, thats something which slipped through my fingers, because our developer implemented it without telling me images/icons/wink.gif

In the previous version of Kontakt you were only able to set one specific key for keyswitching. Now you can set a keyrange which triggers a group. So the first (left) box set the lower key limit and the right box the higher key limit for the keyrange that will trigger a group. This way you can also overlay keyranges for triggering different groups at the same time.

Best,

Martin

[KingIdiot]

agreed,

thanks. There are some great new options in 1.2.1

Chaim,

In the structure window you can choose to \"duplicate group\" which will clone the group (but for some reason not clone the zones). You can then copy the zones and paste them into the new group.

[Chaim Goldman]

Thanks Martin and King.

Martin, you should know that it means so much to me/us when you reply to a question.

Ooh, one more, please consider making an option to magnify the editor.

Thanks again for the reply
CG

[Martin Jann]

Hi King and Chaim,

thanks for your appriciation and the tip for duplicating a group in the structure view. Actually I missed this function which is really very useful. Sometimes even for me as the product designer, Kontakt has features that I have missed...

Concerning the mapping editor.... already on my list images/icons/smile.gif I collect everything that people are posting and that they wish in the future. I´ll do my best to get as much as possible in Kontakt asap... If you have more ideas or suggestions, just bring them on.

Thanks,

Martin

[KingIdiot]

routing options from group to group (envelope follower in one group to say a Release trigger group)

Note off counters

Note on counters for ALL groups

Routing envelopes back to MIDI CC back onto the instrument itself.

Copy groups between different instruments.

Duplicate group, copies zones over as well.

Copy Modules between groups AND instruments. (both modulators and FULL source/amp/etc modules)

Save \"source\" module presets.

multi \"sample play back only if\" statements for source module. (key position AND controller AND round robin)

Round Robin groups (or is this possible not sure, haven\'t delved in it enough)

Routing of modulators to \"curve\" knob instead of just MIDI remote.

MIDI remote curve options (atleast invert, but full drawn curve would be nice)

The ability for Kontakt to reload itself with current patches/fxp when you change audio routing (with an option that asks yes/no).

Now for a nice big option:

MIDI modules just like your routing for everything in/after the \"source module, but controlling MIDI. (Velocity affects MIDI CC, Note On Counter afftect +/minus value for MIDI on Note) This would allow for extremely complex architechture of instruments, but these instruments could be extremely playable and unique.

Imagine the \"intelligence\" in Kontakt thats already in there for glide (knowing note to note distance) and appying that to MIDI, letting Kontakt tell the instrument to switch to a specific key switch. One could program stuff liek the VSL tool legato in jsut kontakt.

Basically I want some flexible MIDI options for make internal MIDI FX. (something like cubases transform added to this would be nice too)


letsee. I have more, but I jsut cant think of them right now. I\'ve got a super sampler playback option that I\'d like to discuss with you guys privately.

[peter269]

BIGGER LETTERING (for those of us using bifocals)!

[Rich Pell]

Peter i know what u mean..but in the mean time,amd maybe i already know..but u can change the sizes of kontakt in OPTIONS and in the Rack.It`ll help a bit...Rich

[KingIdiot]

nah the text stays purty darn tiny on high resolutions.

I dont like it, bu tI may have to switch to 800 to get it to be easier on my eyes... I actually feel like I\'m going blind.


Howabout developer options to keep those nki\'s uncompressed, so I can bild my own hacks to make things go quicker?

[KingIdiot]

Here are a couple more


Combine Instruments option.

Filters that work with \"relative\" values like the way the amplifier module works.

For instance, it I build a module for the AMP that controls the volume via CC, AND use an AHDSR envelope the AHDSR will still affect volume relative to where the MOD wheel sets the level.

If I build the same combo to control the cutoff of the filter, the modwheel takes over and sets absolute values. Making things like the release curve from the AHDSR not work at all.

[Rich Pell]

NI has to fix the .gig dimension import.The keyswitching is fixed in Kontakt 1.2.1.But without GIGA dimensions the best part about .gig`s is lost.Or at least a tutorial about how to program them. VOTA and other sample lib.`s Mod wheel features are pretty much useless in Kontakt unless yur a proramming genius like King or something graemlins/tounge_images/icons/smile.gif (i wish!).Alot of people have been requesting this on the NI forum site!I hope the excellent creators of Kontakt will include this in build 1.3...Pleaseeeeee,Rich

[KingIdiot]

Its EXTREMELY easy to add the mod wheel option to the VotA conversions Rich.

After Import just turn \"Edit all\" (or use the structure to select only one group).

select the Piano Group (soft samples\" in the Group Editor:

Rigth click on the volume knob in the AMP module, select \"external Controllers-->MIDI CC\"

change the first value to 1, take the \"fader\" that goes from side to side and move it completely to the left.

Select the Forte Group (expressive samples) in the group editor:

Rigth click on the volume knob in the AMP module, select \"external Controllers-->MIDI CC\"

change the first value to 1, leave the fader alone.


Repeate this for the Release Trigger groups (or deletet the release trigger groups for better poly.

[Rich Pell]

Thanks for Explaining and Enlightening me(once again) King.I was actually giggling while i was reading this involved process trying to imagine how to do this EXTREMELY easy programming thing..I`ll see if i can follow what your talking about..hehe..Thanks, your the best...Rich

P.S is still think NI`s gotta make this funtion auto -matic..dont u? u cant spend time programing a whole Lib. like this when your working fast...Rich

[KingIdiot]

sorry Rich,

I take for granted that sometimes I jsut \"get\" this stuff

Maybe Dave and I should get together and start a web based Tutorial site, with subscriptions.

[bluedane]

I would add my vote to the multi-dimensional import from giga, but I would also add my vote to KingIdiot and anyone else starting a web based tutorial. I just bought some giga libraries and Kontact from Peter and the multi-dimensional sampling is pretty sweet, so I\'ll do my best to band-aid it back in (I\'m really a synth-newbie - I\'m an audio developer and much more comfortable in c++ than all these knobs and patch groups) but having it just sort of happen so that I can get on with playing rather than tweaking would be awesome.

I\'ll trade c++ audio coding tutorials for Kontact/giga programming tutorials...

=)
-d-

[Rich Pell]

Ya, u are amazing at this stuff King,no need to apologize.If your serious I would definatley be intrested in some Kontakt tutorials.In fact (i dont know if u read my posts up on Ni`s site) but ive requested a sub-group on the NI forum just for turorials and user forum type stuff,jsut like theres one for Reaktor.But since ive gotten no reply about that, In the mean time i would hire u to help me.Send me a private message and we`ll figure something out.I suck at this stuff..Rich

[Rich Pell]

Originally posted by bluedane:
I would add my vote to the multi-dimensional import from giga, but I would also add my vote to KingIdiot and anyone else starting a web based tutorial. I just bought some giga libraries and Kontact from Peter and the multi-dimensional sampling is pretty sweet, so I\'ll do my best to band-aid it back in (I\'m really a synth-newbie - I\'m an audio developer and much more comfortable in c++ than all these knobs and patch groups) but having it just sort of happen so that I can get on with playing rather than tweaking would be awesome.

I\'ll trade c++ audio coding tutorials for Kontact/giga programming tutorials...

=)
-d- <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Blue dane...my vote is in for subscriptons to King and Dave tutorials...Rich

[Dennis B]

2 basic requests...
Please make that EDIT ALL button a user choice to disable in the OPTIONS upon starting Kontakt.
That is a VERY dangerous button to have enabled as a default. One morning and not enough caffeine can destroy a great deal of work in one swipe!

2nd request.... UNDO!

OH...one other thought... how about a MUTE ZONE(s) option as opposed to turning down the Amplifier volume. Sometimes I do this and forget where the Amp was originally set.

I find Kontakt to be a great deal of FUN to work with in a creative sound design context. Nothing out there today comes even close to it. It really makes me never want to open that Giga editor again I\'m sorry to say.


Thanks for any consideration Martin!
Dennis

[KingIdiot]

Howabout the ability to trigger samples by CC movement?

I\'ve been fooling with release trigger options that are blowing my mind in terms of realism, but one thing that would be cool is to ahve the ability to trigger corresponding key depressed samples when a controller hits a specific value (from 40 to 41, or from 90-91, etc)

I could make release triggers that can work during crecendos/decrecendos too.

or trigger samples to start playing when the get to a certain value to limit poly images/icons/smile.gif

[KingIdiot]

Loaded instruments in the \"background\".

As of right now I can only load 16 instruments in each instance. What if I have 1000 Sound Font patches that I\'d like to have available via Prg Change? Its stupid to have a gajillion Instances on multiple hosts when all the samples come out to 1GB maximum anyway.

Man, how this would save me headaches, and increase my creativity on a current project.


actually hmm... I can think of a way to do this with reprogramming.... maybe well atleast 127 patches for each MIDI channel. But until you make it possible to combine instruments into one I\'m not gonna spend the 3 gajillion hours copying/pasting and rebuilding groups. images/icons/smile.gif

[James Thornton]

Originally posted by KingIdiot:
routing options from group to group (envelope follower in one group to say a Release trigger group)

Note off counters

Note on counters for ALL groups

Routing envelopes back to MIDI CC back onto the instrument itself.

*** Copy groups between different instruments.

*** Duplicate group, copies zones over as well.

Copy Modules between groups AND instruments. (both modulators and FULL source/amp/etc modules)

Save \"source\" module presets.

*** multi \"sample play back only if\" statements for source module. (key position AND controller AND round robin)

Round Robin groups (or is this possible not sure, haven\'t delved in it enough)

Routing of modulators to \"curve\" knob instead of just MIDI remote.

MIDI remote curve options (atleast invert, but full drawn curve would be nice)

The ability for Kontakt to reload itself with current patches/fxp when you change audio routing (with an option that asks yes/no).

Now for a nice big option:

MIDI modules just like your routing for everything in/after the \"source module, but controlling MIDI. (Velocity affects MIDI CC, Note On Counter afftect +/minus value for MIDI on Note) This would allow for extremely complex architechture of instruments, but these instruments could be extremely playable and unique.

Imagine the \"intelligence\" in Kontakt thats already in there for glide (knowing note to note distance) and appying that to MIDI, letting Kontakt tell the instrument to switch to a specific key switch. One could program stuff liek the VSL tool legato in jsut kontakt.

Basically I want some flexible MIDI options for make internal MIDI FX. (something like cubases transform added to this would be nice too)


letsee. I have more, but I jsut cant think of them right now. I\'ve got a super sampler playback option that I\'d like to discuss with you guys privately. <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">This is a great list. The items I marked with stars are the missing features that keep me from switching over from Halion as my bread and butter sampler plus

*** Conversion from Halion 2.0 files.

The last item on King\'s list sounds way cool.

Cheers,
James

[KingIdiot]

BTW, Having \"output\" control of where the MIDI routing goes to would be awesome. Imagine rerouting the midi manipulation TO a Virtual MIDI cable, then having that outputed/manipulated MIDI from Kontakt control an Audio plug in.

Obviously I\'m starting to think of Reaktor options here, but if there was a \"kontakt\" *INSIDE* Reaktor I\'d be all over it (as long as I could get inside it like any other Reaktor module). Instead of having to build my own sampler (without DFD)