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gabriels
06-12-2002, 12:05 PM
I just got my VOTA and I\'m pretty revved up.... very happy with the sounds, and am now grappling with how to use the consonants.
I have a question about how to change the control of consonants from use of lower octave Keyswitching to a continuous controller. I guess I don\'t quite understand keyswitching totally.
There is a 4 bit dimension in the \"Pitched Keyswitched Consonant\" giga. It has \"keyboard\" as it\'s assigned controller, and it maps different consonants to keys depending on which lower octave key is pressed. If I look at the properties of the giga by right clicking on the giga in the upper left pane of GStudio, I see that there is an assignment for keyswitching there also, with a range of about an octave (maybe more, I can\'t remember). My thinking is that these two are merely different representations of the keyswitching assignment.
What I\'ve tried to do is to substitute \"CC82\" for \"keyboard\" in the controller assignment for this dimension. It seems to work only marginally, which is strange. I\'d think it would either work or not work. The keyswitching seems still to work perfectly from the virtual keyboard in GStudio (when I click on the low octave keys that are supposed to do the keyswitching, but the continuous controller seems to change consonants only erratically. Consonants played by pressing C3 might change sometimes, but those played by pressing C# might not. I\'m not really quite clear about when the consonants actually change as I haven\'t played with this feature enough, but I\'m pretty sure it\'s not working correctly
Am I supposed to somehow undo the key dimension that is spelled out in the properties of the giga? Why does the keyswitching from the virtual keyboard still work, if I have changed from \"keyboard\" to cc82 in the 4 bit dimension. I\'m wondering if still having keyswitching working from the keyboard is somehow interfering with the attempt to change consonants with the continuous controller.
Gabriel

gabriels
06-12-2002, 12:10 PM
Sorry.. I should have checked the post before sending it. I\'ve been a little unclear about what I mean by erratic. I mean to say that for any particular note I\'m trying to play, the changing of consonants (which works fine when using keyswitching) only works sometimes when I try to do it with the newly assigned continuous controller. C and C# were just meant to be examples of notes I might be playing while I try to change the consonants.
Gabriel

KingIdiot
06-12-2002, 12:11 PM
Gabriel. You\'re almost there. When you switch the keyswithc dinmension from keyboard to CC88, you must make sure tyo select ALL regions and all velocities and ALL dimensions.

In the editor next to the velocity mapping there should be a little button with one red box. Click on it until all the boxes within that button are read. Then select all the regions (make them all yellow). Then switch the dimension from Keyboard to CC88. This should take care of it.

I personally would not program the library this way, but if you feel more comfortable with it, then go for it.

I suggest watching out if you plan on using the upcoming VotA wordbuilding utility. Programming changes may interfere with some of its features...or future features.

gabriels
06-12-2002, 07:28 PM
Not as much of an Idiot as I am, having allowed my parents to push a flute on me at age 7 instead of insisted on playing a piano. Now I have to pay the price. There\'s just no realistic way to do keyswitching when playing a woodwind controller. On the other hand, the ww controller does have it\'s advantages, and I\'m just frothing at the bit to try building words on the fly. From what I\'ve experienced so far, word building may not really be possible, except in sequenced music. So far I haven\'t found a way to merge the consonants with the vowels in a convincing way as I\'m improvising. Any hints?
Gabriel

Bolt Thrower
06-13-2002, 12:17 AM
Very clever bit of software.

bt

Nuno Fonseca
06-13-2002, 07:30 AM
Wait some time, i\'m doing a wordbuilder program to Vota that can resolve your problem - you enter the text, and then you play the melody and ear the vota sing (in realtime).

gabriels
06-13-2002, 01:32 PM
Nuno,
Yes, I\'ve seen postings regarding your upcoming \"articulator\" for creating words with Vota, but I was under the impression that it would be usable only from a sequencer. Will it sit inbetween an incoming midi stream from a keyboard (in my case from a woodwind controller) and reinterpret the stream on the fly, or does it have to interact with a sequencer in some way.
Gabriel

gabriels
06-13-2002, 01:34 PM
I wish I could edit messages once I\'ve posted them. Well, I\'d just better be more careful. I meant to ask if the software you\'re writing will sit between an incoming midi stream and Gigasampler.
Gabriel

Scott Speed
06-13-2002, 02:47 PM
Hehe...you *can* edit messages after you post them...just click on the pen and paper icon above your message.

Regards,
Scott

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gabriels:
[QB]I wish I could edit messages once I\'ve posted them.

gabriels
06-13-2002, 07:18 PM
OOOHHH,
Hey thanks a lot!
Gabriel

Nuno Fonseca
06-14-2002, 05:24 AM
Yes, the utility opens a midi in port, and then, send midi information to gigastudio. In this case, the utility receives midi from your controller and then activate the sounds of gigastudio.

gabriels
06-14-2002, 12:09 PM
That sounds like it will work very well for me. Will there also be a way to make it change the words that are being sung. So, for example, could I use a continuous controller (keyswitching doesn\'t work in the case of a woodwind controller) to change the particular word that is being output?
Any predicted time for completion of your software? Sign me up!!!
Gabriel

maestro
06-14-2002, 12:35 PM
Or a vocal delay/sustain function, such as a foot switch capability which keeps playing a vocal until you relase it. then runs to the next syllable e.g.<< glo-o-o-o-o-o-ri-i-a>>