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ddk
02-07-2004, 09:12 AM
To Doug,

I would buy Platinum if it
was in 16bit format. I guess
I am forced to buy Gold.
I feel that it is a lot more
important to be able to load
up more programs than it is
to have 24bits.

Is there any one else that would like
to see a Platinum version in 16bit???

thanks,
Dave

Hasen
02-07-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by ddk:
Is there any one else that would like
to see a Platinum version in 16bit???
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Yes - everyone, but it ain\'t gonna happen. Its been discussed many times here.

leogardini
02-07-2004, 11:18 PM
If itīs free images/icons/rolleyes.gif ...

cyril
02-07-2004, 11:28 PM
Why do you want a 16bit format ?

MarcDerell
02-08-2004, 01:28 AM
Because it eats less of RAM.... i.e. you can have more instruments loaded on one system but got all mic positions.

handz
02-08-2004, 06:52 AM
What I really want is 16 bit version of platinum Far mics only - something like Gold edition but with Far mics and 16bits- more expensive than GOLD but still cheaper than Platinum.

ddk
02-08-2004, 09:52 AM
I think it would be great for people
who don\'t have 3 computers to be
able to buy Gold and then pay extra
for the 16bit hall mics to complete the
library in 16bit!!

Tarkio Road
02-08-2004, 06:12 PM
The hall mics are more important than 24-bit (IMHO), so this would unfortunately be a Platinum killer.

FV
02-09-2004, 12:49 PM
Hi,


Originally posted by ed buller:
You need all the mics. Close, Stage and Hall. It is such a shame they went 24bit but I figure they won\'t change tack now.<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">In a couple of years when it may be more feasible to run Platinum on a single computer, you\'ll be thanking Nick and Doug that they decided to go with 24-bit.

I think that because computers are now getting to the point where they can realistically deal with 24-bit libraries, this will become the standard. The shame here, I guess is that most of the libraries are becoming a little bit more closed. If the individual wave files were accessible, you could probably take a batch converter to the waves to bring them down to 16-bit in order to slim down on CPU requirements.

I suspect that it is quite a bit of work for EW to convert it for 16-bit Platinum version (ie convert the files, adjust and test programming of the instruments, create new Kompakt player for Platinum/16, create new packaging, etc.

Anyway, I\'m a little indifferent to it since I don\'t own Platinum (currently with Silver and soon to upgrade to Gold). I was not trying to argue against either option just trying to point out that the computers won\'t be choking on Platinum forever.

FV

dougrogers
02-09-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by MarcDerell:
Because it eats less of RAM.... i.e. you can have more instruments loaded on one system but got all mic positions. "Platinum" owners can get "Gold" for $199, then you can compose in "Gold" and render everything with multiple passes in "Platinum" to your audio sequencer and mix there. You end up with the efficiency of composing 16-bit with the sonic superiority of the 24-bit samples and multiple mic positions of "Platinum".

Computers are getting faster and faster, and soon this won't tax even modest systems. Then we will release the 24-bit/88.2k version we have completed, which has an even better sound!

- Doug

MarcDerell
02-09-2004, 03:17 PM
Doug, I know... I\'m not the one complaining about 24bit. images/icons/grin.gif

I know its sound is much clearer though I\'m rendering down to 16bit anyway because my current clients are using 16bit only.

I like the option of having 24bit but if I need to compose with efficiency I can always start doing it in Silver images/icons/wink.gif

-Marc

ed buller
02-09-2004, 11:07 PM
You need all the mics. Close, Stage and Hall. It is such a shame they went 24bit but I figure they won\'t change tack now. Still I hope I am wrong.

ed

Frederick
02-10-2004, 09:32 AM
I have 16 bit libraries that I truly love, but... let\'s face it, 24 bit is more accurate. Hopefully the hardware will catch up to the ambitious vision.

If you had a calculator with 24 digit spaces behind the zero you\'re going to get \"higher resolution\" (greater accuracy) than one with 16 digit spaces behind the zero (in other words, the calculator will not round off the last few numbers.) In A/D terms, this rounding off creates artifacts that were not in the original performance. 24-bit to 16-bit encoding helps, but then again they utilize extensive use of algorithms that further alter the numeric representation of the data to emulate 24-bit sound but inevitably skews it. Apogee UV-22 is very good with this skewing process from 24bit to 16bit, but having the original 24-bit performance seems to make better sense.

I\'d like the 16-bit Platinum library too - but not at the expense of causing the 24-bit creation to go into extinction.