Sam Trumpets demo

[sonicthreadz]

I got the new Sam Trumpets library and I wrote a track using them as more of a \"supportive\" section rather than in the aggressive or solo section aspect. They blend very well.

http://www.scottbmorton.com/music/rite_of_kings.mp3 (\"http://www.scottbmorton.com/music/rite_of_kings.mp3\")

I surely hope Project Sam continues in their tradition of making great sample libraries for affordable prices, onto other sections of the orchestra as well. I\'m definitely a fan and have all their products.

[christianb]

nice stuff Scott. That was a good listen.

cb

[TLarkin]

Nice Scott,
I especially like the second half. Nice use of trumpets.
Tim

[Scott Cairns]

I surely hope Project Sam continues in their tradition of making great sample libraries for affordable prices, onto other sections of the orchestra as well. I\'m definitely a fan and have all their products.<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Hey Scott. Project Sam have confirmed that they\'ll do a Tuba next in the Brass series. I think they would be mad to not follow the success of the the brass libs into other sections. Perhaps the recent free percussion gigs was a clue? images/icons/smile.gif

I\'ll listen to your track tonight. images/icons/wink.gif

[Scott Cairns]

True. I\'ve long thought that Sam Woodwinds would be a winner. Close mic\'d and far.... [sigh]

[sonicthreadz]

Howabout SAM Didjeridoo? (grin)

[Hudson]

Ditto that on the strings or the woods after the tuba. Percussion has been done to death, so I think that would be a waste of the SAM teams time, energy and talent.
-Hudson

[TLarkin]

I\'ll second the Didgeridoo.
Guess it\'s an official nomination. Now they have to do it...

[Markus S]

Oh yes, strings is a great idea! I agree that the string sections out there are not what I\'d expect them to be...

[Simon Ravn]

String sections are damn hard to sample, since there are so many variables changing all the time between the 10+ string players in a section, and because of the way string players are able to connect notes etc. that you can\'t emulate completely (VSL comes close) etc. I think there are plenty of great string samples out there.

[mschiff]

So what exactly would you guys like to see in a didgeridoo library? Maybe I\'ll do one. images/icons/cool.gif

-- Martin

[TLarkin]

Martin,
What would be great would be to have a Didge construction kit. Various drones that you could mix in with the chuffs etc. to form your own rythms. All keys and as many wild components as possible. That\'s what I\'d like to hear.
Tim

[mschiff]

Tim,

Are you looking for loops and one shots, or something mapped to the keyboard a-la giga? If the latter, how would you envision \"playing\" the didge in different keys with rhythms added, etc?

-- Martin

[TLarkin]

I\'m thinking that the existing library for Didg already has quite a few loops in various keys and tempos. I\'d like to be able to create variations on each drone rythmically. For example, I could punctuate the the upbeats if I wanted with a variety of chuffs(?) by simply having them keymapped and layered in that particular key. You could virtually play your own user created loops by constructing with the elements available. If you were to break down several drones that you play, what elements would be available, and could you break them out to make them flexible to the user?
I love the wild phrases that are given on the current Didge library, but would also sure like to be able to create my own (without ruining my trumpet chops!).
Does that help any?

Tim

[Per Lichtman]

I think SAM should exploit weaknesses in the market as they have so far. Brass was by far the weakest section of the orchestra and now it will be woodwinds. The other sections are more competitive e.g. strings (GOS, SI, etc.), Percussion (London Percussion, Storm Drum, etc.) but with woodwinds they\'d really only have to beat Dan Dean...

[zquarles]

I\'d like to see something along the line of QL\'s Rare Instruments...something that isn\'t quite as common place...
That\'s probably just me though...

[Per Lichtman]

It\'s true that VSL has strong woodwinds, I just think of the sections of the big libraries (i.e. EWQL and VSL) in a somewhat different way then I do of the libraries for independently developed sections (this may partially be a price issue as well.) Now if you get all the SAM libraries so far (plus the upcoming Solo Sessions Vol. 1) it\'s not cheap... but it feels that way when you\'re buying it in sections. :-) Plus, it\'s one of the only libraries that can boast almost complete consumer confidence.

Not to knock on the other libraries I use e.g. GOS Advanced, but there is a lot of competition going on and it can be difficult to be really sure that you made the right decision, especially in the early stages before you really get your head around the stuff. However, the out of the box experience for the SAM libraries has been great and no one has posted a single demo from any library that makes me question that SAM meets or beats their quality. Out of the sections of the orchestra I was just stating which one I thought they had the best chance of inspiring that confidence in again.

[mschiff]

Tim,

Maybe we should take this to email since it doesn\'t seem that anyone else is interested or participating.

Drop me a line at mschiff at cdsol dot com.

I\'m thinking that there would be different instruments, each being a single key and that you would use one octave of notes for drones and another for accents and rhythmic stuff.

-- Martin

[TLarkin]

That\'s not just you ZQuarles, I\'d love to see the rare and exotic instruments as well. QL has some great samples, but theirs definitely not the same variety out there as ther is with string libraries. It would be nice to have more choices of instruments as well as different implementations of the existing ones.
Tim

[Per Lichtman]

It\'s true that we could definetly due with more exotic samples and certainly I\'m looking to expand my library of such. I was just trying to look at how to best capitalize on the SAM\'s expertise. If they want to diverge from the traditional orchestra more than certainly I would be enthusiastic to embrace the results if they held up to the same standard. I was just thinking \"inside the box\". images/icons/smile.gif

[sonicthreadz]

Multi-layered samples with modwheel control would be cool, if you could lengthen the \"chuffs\" for slower rhythms, and shorten them for quicker, more abrupt \"chuffing.\" Live chuff control. (grin)

I always liked the world drumkits that were keymapped so you could play different arpeggios and scales and come up with a cool beat. Maybe various predefined keymaps would be a neat idea, making it more performance-intuitive to the didgeridoo. Then maybe if one could select pitch levels or control pitch by modwheel as well.

If it could make coffee too, that would be a bonus. =P

[dwdonehoo]

Between AO, Westgate and GPO. I have a fairly good woodwind template. I have heard some VSL woodwinds, and yeah, wow, very nice. But woodwinds with the SAM treatment, oh yeah, that would be very nice indeed. I just got SAM Trumpets (along with Horn and Trombone), and its like, \"Oh my gawd! These sound great!\". But I bet the SAM guys have other plans, but one could hope. Like, I would like to see orch and \"special\" (Hollywood) percussion, and things not in the other major libs...

[sonicthreadz]

Howabout a sax library? No one really has a good one of those.

[IronChef]

I was just thinking about that too. I would definitely buy SAM Saxophones more than Tuba or Dijeridoo.