David Maddux demos! - Seriously, check these out:

[Alan Lastufka]

David Maddux just sent a couple of tunes done with GPO. David has been composing and orchestrating for over 30 years.

http://www.fallofautumn.com/dm-ShoppingWithLola.mp3

http://www.fallofautumn.com/dm-CrazyRhythm.mp3

You may have seen him as the piano soloist in the Jennifer Lopez motion picture, \"The Wedding Planner\".

The first is the Main Title from an indie film entitled \"Shopping With Lola\". Everything is GPO except for the synth, sound effects, bass & drums. It was sequenced in Sonar 3.
(Downtown by Tony Hatch used by permission).

The second song is \"Crazy Rhythm\" is also in the film and uses GPO exclusively.

Enjoy!

[L0W]

Doesn\'t this just show what GPO can do in the hands of a master? When I first started listening to Crazy Rhythm, I thought maybe somehow I had not installed the whole of GPO - where are all those sounds coming from? But no I think skilful use of Harp with sustain pedal down (to get rid of sustain) and mute trumpets - I have to confess its all there I\'d just never thought of using them in this way.

Thanks Alan for putting these up. Now where are those MIDI files then?!

[trentpmcd]

Very nice. The production quality is so far beyond my limited talent, never mind the nice arrangement and orchestration.

[UNIX_GURU]

Very good!

[Pierre Laroche]

Wow,

I really LOVE \"Crazy Rhythm\". I especially like the muted trumpets! All this music makes me want to meet Lola, she must be kind of a cool person /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Pierre

[galvedro]

And again, my moral is on the floor. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Bravo, maestro!!

[Karl Garrett]

I have to tell you this.

My wife is a tap dancer. When I played Crazy Rhythm for her last night, she said, “Maybe if you’d write tunes like that for me, I wouldn’t be so jealous of the time you spend at that stupid computer.” Oh well, guess what my next GPO piece will be like after I finish the Vivaldi Guitar concerto this weekend. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Hardy Heern]

Thanks a lot for pointing me in that direction Alan. Nice to get something upbeat for a change too. Just so sparkling. I agree with the others though, very demoralising but at the same time inspiring because it makes you realise that the limitations are all yours!!

Hey, hang on.....this isn\'t some psychological ploy to make us give up entering the contest because we can see that we have no chance. is it?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Frank

[Alan Lastufka]

Frank (and everyone else)

I\'m really glad you guys are enjoying the demos. I was floored when I heard them and it pushes me to do better with my own comps and mock-ups.

Happy listening!

[Wazzy]

Alan,

Those demos were awesome and extremely inspiring. 30 Years of orchestrating - Yea - it shows. You couldn\'t perhaps talk him into sharing any more of his demos, could you.

Dave

[Ron Klaren]

Ok ok ok.....

They DO sound great and incredible...... but....

Why on earth did he use GPO to do this ? I mean... I am really amazed at what GPO apparently can do... but why would you ?
Wouldn\'t this be a lot easier to do with some other soundset ?

Hats of to David though !!! The demo\'s really sound excellent !!!


Ron

[nexus]

The real question in listening to these obviously very pro pieces, is what did he use for ambience??

It sounds to me like a very \'high end\' outboard reverb, maybe a Lexicon 480L, but it could be one of the newer ones like the 960L.

If you will notice, the reverb \'gets out of the way\' of the overall music being generated by GPO just as it would in a real hall. It matches the ambience being touted over on the EW forum in the sampled \'release trails\' of the Gold edition.

I\'ve been saying this on this forum for many months, so now these are great examples of what I\'ve been talking about. GPO really needs some kind of reverb of this calibre to make it sound like those \'high end\' libraries.

Does anyone know for sure what was used for reverb????? http://www.northernsounds.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[David_Maddux]

Thanks for the kind words, gentlemen. We\'re very fortunate to have an incredible tool like GPO in our hands. It makes the distance between creative inspiration and high-quality orchestral recording very short indeed.

[Nexus: the reverb used in these segments is \"Sonitus:fx\". It comes bundled with Sonar 3 Producer Edition. I used a factory-issue preset: \"The Venue\". http://www.northernsounds.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif]

[nexus]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the kind words, gentlemen. We\'re very fortunate to have an incredible tool like GPO in our hands. It makes the distance between creative inspiration and high-quality orchestral recording very short indeed.

[Nexus: the reverb used in these segments is \"Sonitus:fx\". It comes bundled with Sonar 3 Producer Edition. I used a factory-issue preset: \"The Venue\". http://www.northernsounds.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif]

[/ QUOTE ]

I am floored!! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I thought the \'verb sounded very much like the 480L I use to have acess to. This might be just enough of a reason to upgrade my SONAR 2.2XL to 3.1 soon! There is \'air\' to these pieces which is quite difficult to capture, I guess.

Perhaps its the tasteful way the reverb was applied that makes it so nice. It has a very nice mid-sized Hollywood scoring stage sound. the old Lex 480L is pretty much a standby in many pro scoring situations over the years. This Sonitus reverb has captured that particular setting better than my old ProSoniq plugin that was designed to be a 480 clone!

Maybe I should just look around for a better reverb plug-in (I own several excellent ones of different types). I have not heard much from SONAR users about the quality of the bundled reverbs, but this kind of ambience is much better than convolution which seems to shout at the listener \"I am reverberating the music!!\"

It could be too, that many people are lathering-on the reverb with GPO, I dunno. Which makes these pieces stand out from all the rest, to say nothing of the orchestration and recording quality.

Another aspect of these pieces is that they seem to have some very pro-sounding eq and compression done, as if in a top-flight pro studio. I have prided myself on my recorded sound, but these are going to force me to re-do the several pieces I done since the begining of the year. http://www.northernsounds.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

All I can say is: \"WELL DONE DAVID\"! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Garritan]

With the transfering of the new forum and the old links being broken, some may not have had the opportunity to hear these incredible demos by David Maddux.

http://www.fallofautumn.com/dm-ShoppingWithLola.mp3

http://www.fallofautumn.com/dm-CrazyRhythm.mp3

Enjoy,

Gary Garritan

[Tom Hopkins]

Gary pointed me to these as part of my “catch up” on things done while I was gone. David is definitely having WAY too much fun here. Gary should put a warning on the package that GPO could cause less-than-serious side effects if used properly. “Downtown” covers so much arranging and orchestrational territory in so brief a time that it certainly qualifies as one of the best overviews of GPO possibilities that I have heard so far.

Tom (as he tap dances his way away from the computer – not a pretty sight)

[Craig Reeves]

Hm. I like Lexicon Pantheon better than Sonitus: fx reverb

[nexus]

Hm. I like Lexicon Pantheon better than Sonitus: fx reverb
I would tend to agree with that. but for the way the reverb is used here. On those pieces with the Sonitus 'verb it worked beautifully. The Pantheon sounds too much like a LXP 550 to me--that is, very nice but not quite a PCM 90.

Anyway, the reverb is applied so well here........