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Nicole
06-22-2004, 05:40 PM
Gone again heh

jmc
06-22-2004, 06:02 PM
I think it sounds really good, actually. Quite light and nimble; GPO is very adept at handling a lot of notes. Classicism and romanticism aren't sooo far from eachother, vibrato's a little bigger, bow's a little heavier, violinist invites a few more friends...I love this piece also. What reverb did you use?

Garritan
06-22-2004, 07:26 PM
Exquisite!

Excellent rendition and certainly not too many notes (as Mozart would have wanted). It seems you do listen to alot of Mozart. you made the piece sing.

Hope you don't mind my mirroring this on the GPO General Discussion board (I'm still trying to figure out this new forum software). Reverb can take a bit of time to master. The Lexicon Reverb that comes with Sonar is one of my favorites. With SIR, perhaps you need to adjust the wet dry balance - it seems that you may bave the settings on 100% wet if you're only getting an echo sound.

You did a beautiful job. Masterfully done!

Gary Garritan

Karl Garrett
06-23-2004, 12:02 PM
Well, another little gem. Nicole, you never cease to amaze me with your talent. I heard this Jupiter thing on the radio the other night, and thought that it would be a great piece for GPO. Now that IÕve heard your version, I might do it someday, but, IÕll be É. If IÕll post it hear unless itÕs awfully, awfully good. Thanks for sharing this superb realization.

Karl

Easy_Rhino
06-23-2004, 12:18 PM
This sounds really, really good. I agree with Gary, though, on the reverb. But all is not lost. There's an impulse file called something like "1200 Seat Modern Concert Hall" in the Real Spaces section of www.noisevault.com that would make this shine. Just load it into SIR, start with 100% dry signal (turn the wet slider down to 0 and the dry all the way up), and then start pushing the wet slider up until the sound "feels" natural. Normally something between 10 and 20 percent is enough to do the trick. Incidentally, the same concept works on the Lexicon reverb too (minus the impulse file, of course).

Keep up the good work!

trentpmcd
06-23-2004, 03:39 PM
Very well done, as everything you post here seems to be.

Hardy Heern
06-23-2004, 05:15 PM
Very nice indeed Nicole and thanks for sharing the midi file.

Frank

nexus
06-23-2004, 05:35 PM
Again, GPO just excels at this kind of music! No other library at this price could do something like this with the grace displayed here. Your work is terrific as always, Nicole. Thanks for sharing this.

Tom Hopkins
06-23-2004, 07:05 PM
Nicole,

Nicely done and quite a workout for the polyphony I'll bet!

Tom

wes37
06-23-2004, 10:20 PM
Nicole,

Are you using a sequencer? If so, which one?

Wes

Jeff Hurchalla
06-24-2004, 06:25 PM
Great work Nicole. I'll have to play this one for folks when I get to NAMM in July. Very cool.

wes37
06-24-2004, 06:36 PM
Nicole,

Are you using a sequencer? If so, which one?

Wes

I gotta stop posting after studying....what a dumb question. :)

I'm thinking about joining the Sonar crowd...it seems to be an excellent package.

Nicole
06-24-2004, 08:14 PM
I gotta stop posting after studying....what a dumb question. :)

I'm thinking about joining the Sonar crowd...it seems to be an excellent package.
Sorry for the late response, yes sonar(version 2) im considering upgrading but then I hear rumeors of a 4 already on the way so im just gonna stay put and see. I appologize I visited the forum once today(or was it twice?) and didnt even look at this thread.

For the rest, thanks for the kind comments.
Regarding the reverb, its a very subjective topic I think. Even when I do use the SIR and tried the recommedations it changes the timbre of the instruments it seems. Im not very knowlegdable on impulse reverb but when it sounds unlike what I wanted I tend to not use it. I have never touched EQ and dont know where to start with that and really dont want to, so ill stick with what works for me. The normal sonar reverb doesnt change the GPO sounds so much, I tried as many of the impulses on that site and they all changed the sound of the instruments. I might use to much I guess, but Im not making an album, just playing with a program for fun:)
What I did discover is its really simple to re create pieces like this using a minimal amount of GPO players. But I did notice it used the same amount of cpu indication in the sonar display, this is probably because of all these intruments even though simple layout are playing lots of notes. Least I think that would be the reason.

Easy_Rhino
06-25-2004, 12:29 PM
You're certainly right about reverb being subjective. Actually, the one thing I like about music is that it's all subjective. Or at least should be. As far as the reverb goes, I didn't mean to come across as being pushy or overly nitpicky. As a matter of fact, I was listening to a CD I have of the Brahms Piano Concerto #2, and the space reminded me a bit of the one you created for your Mozart piece.

Impulse reverbs are designed to imprint the characteristics of a space (frequency response, echos, reverberation, etc.) onto a dry recording to give the simulation of a performance in that space. To me, the problem with most impulses (the free ones, anyway) is that they usually are recorded in spaces not really suited for the instuments we are sticking into them, or the recording equipment used taints the result to some degree. The one I mentioned is probably the best of the lot as far as what's on the site. To be honest, I've found it to be a pretty decent impulse for classical solo piano stuff. I'll play around with it some more before blindly recommending it for orchestral use.

The most important thing is that you have this amazing gift for arranging. The realism you get out of this library never ceases to amaze me. Ultimately, as long as you have fun or otherwise get something fulfilling out of making music, then it's all good.

Nicole
06-25-2004, 01:31 PM
You're certainly right about reverb being subjective. Actually, the one thing I like about music is that it's all subjective.


I agree with you 100 percent on the "subjective" part. There are alot of "split" groups right now and it sorta saddens me. There are the "film" guys, the avante garde, minimalists, neo-classical blah blah blah! Labels heh. But one thing I found is the discrimination is rediculous between each group. I have visited other forums of sample libraries(though I dont own any, gigastudio and stuff like that scares me off, to much to learn) and it seems a big battle zone. Glad this place isnt like that. Now I wish I remember that quote I read a while back that debussy said regarding this same matter. Sigh

Thanks for the arrangement compliment. Believe me though when I first got this stuff the first many weeks worth of trying all went to the recycle bin:)

Styxx
06-28-2004, 12:40 PM
Gone Sorry? You had better be young lady! I was looking forward to listening and now all I can here is a faint distant sound. Like the blipping static pulses of digital noise blanketing my monitors.
No body loves me....
OK, now where is it!!!! Come on, cough it up!

Nicole
06-29-2004, 11:58 AM
Gone Sorry? You had better be young lady! I was looking forward to listening and now all I can here is a faint distant sound. Like the blipping static pulses of digital noise blanketing my monitors.
No body loves me....
OK, now where is it!!!! Come on, cough it up!
sorry styxx, I put it up just for a bit but will have to take it back down soon.

Styxx
06-29-2004, 10:02 PM
sorry styxx, here it is for a short time only:)

http://home.cfl.rr.com/delly/Mozart%20Symphony%2041%204th%20movement.mp3

You know, it's one thing to capture the beauty of Mozart. It's quit another for "beauty" to capture Mozart!
I thank you for posting this again. I don't know how they do it but Barbie and Jack were (Ken's gone remember?) dancing up a storm while I listen. No technical, just loved it love it cause Izz lovezz Mozart! :D


Now I wish I remember that quote I read a while back that debussy said regarding this same matter.

He said, "Shut up and play dat funky music....! :eek: