GS3 still not shipping!

[Luigi]

How much longer is Tascam going to tell us that GS3 will be out the next month? :(

[leogardini]

I´m not missing anything:rolleyes:!!!

[§eth]

Website says shipping end of july. Who knows? One thing I can say from being beta tester on several online games Having the public keep screaming "release release" when it's not ready, tends to bite them in the rear when they have a buggy product up to a year after it's official release. I'm sort of tired of having stuff halfway done just to be put out to make a quick buck. It's somewhat refreshing for me at least that they push it back. I'm still trying to figure out how to use giga 2.5 corectly and I've been using it for like a year...

[gigagagga]

their website says "end of June" not end of July. I don't really think they have any idea of when it will ship.

My guess all along has been October. I know it's just a guess but they have missed every other date.

I not mad, not even a little bit, i just wish that they would communicate with their user base instead of the silence. They will release it when it's ready (like October).

Giga...

[RickH]

It's somewhat refreshing for me at least that they push it back...
Maybe so, but it's decidedly UN-refreshing to see ads for months-on-end hyping a product that isn't available.

Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm these days.

R.
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[sporter]

I don't care.

[Per Lichtman]

I'm not saying that developers should release a buggy product. I don't think it's a bad thing to say that a product is "coming soon" like Garritan has done with their solo strings library. I do think that when oh so many years ago the strategy of "vaporware" was employed in the computer industry for the first time it hurt everyone involved. I don't think that Tascam has done that here, but I think it is really romanticizing the issue to compliment them for doing what, on the face of it, could easily be misinterpreted as simply selling vaporware for month after month. I really hope that it comes out soon or it will really start to look like Tascam is trying to fend off their competition with marketing claims.

[Luigi]

At first everyone was quite excited when Tascam finally came with an announcement of GS3, but apparently these announcements don't say anything, because we still have to wait months, maybe years for the product to come. :(

By the way, the producers have had long enough to get the bugs out! You'll probably never get a 100% bug-free product. When you release the product, the users can even help with reporting and/or solving bugs!

[Gary M. Thomas]

Even stranger is the fact that the "online music dealers" are already offering Giga 3.0 for sale on their sites :confused: :confused:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--TASGS3ORCH
http://www.pcaudiolabs.com/detail.asp?item_number=376
http://www.music123.com/Tascam-Giga-Studio-3-i128547.music?match=1

[§eth]

BAH I saw the June date, but swore, I saw July on there not 2 days later somewhere on that site.

I agree that they hyped it up way early. Probably just to quiet the masses since it's been in developement forever with no details.

[RickH]

I'm not saying that developers should release a buggy product. I don't think it's a bad thing to say that a product is "coming soon" like Garritan has done with their solo strings library... I don't think that Tascam has done that here, but I think it is really romanticizing the issue to compliment them for doing what, on the face of it, could easily be misinterpreted as simply selling vaporware for month after month. I really hope that it comes out soon or it will really start to look like Tascam is trying to fend off their competition with marketing claims.

There IS a big difference in how things have been marketed. Announcing "Coming soon" in forums and newsgroups isn't the same thing as glossy ads in all the major publications that make it look like a real, shipping product, which is how GS3 is being marketed, and has been marketed for months. And that's what I see as a problem that will hurt them in the long run.

R.
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[Gary M. Thomas]

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:Honr_0yqdAUJ:http://www.webdesignskolan.com/photoshop/alla_bilder/waiting.jpg

So..... We wait.... and wait, and wait, and wait......... :rolleyes:

[Houston Haynes]

I think they pre-annouced the bundling arrangement with VSL as an appeasment to those of us that are waiting - and perhaps to quash the excitement generated by the release of HALion 3 and the rumors about Kontakt 2 coming sometime this year.

I should see my HALion 3 upgrade in the mail in the next day or so, and given that all of my Giga libraries have been converted and tweaked to HALion or Kontakt already, I'm not in too big of a hurry anyway. Whenever GS3 is out and stable, I'll do the upgrade and see where things lead.

[JonP]

Whenever GS3 is out and stable, I'll do the upgrade and see where things lead.

Yep - that's the bottom line. Ensure its stable before purchasing!. Too many times I've bought half-baked products, hard and software, that have taken months to sort out - if ever. Wait for it to appear and then add a few months to see how it settles (I still remember the fuss Gigasampler and studio caused with the initial releases and bugs).

[dwdonehoo]

I saw GS3 at NAMM (I predicted a year before it would show up at NAMM) and it was looking good. I spent many years as SW Engineer and know how these projects go, in particular with a product as large and complex as GS4. I made another prediction at NAMM: GS3 would not be on the market till 4Q '04. I would have to say, they should not release it till it is done. Customer support is expensive and a product with bugs can be a disaster. There will be bugs (all products have them), but the idea is to narrow them down before release, and keep the bugs low impact as possible. In the game industry, where we have been waiting for Doom 3 and other games for years, but the watchword was always "It will be released when it is done." It is usually the best policy.

[Steelhed]

Like someone brought up earlier, The gaming industry is a pretty good example of market manipulation.. Now I'm not saying Tascam is Evil, But Hype for a product when you know Damm Well it aint gonna be ready by the date given, Is market Manipulation, Yes they're prolly worried a little about Halion 3, But that doesn't make it O.K. to Test The Market with Hype, and Count the Dough before it's even being raked in... For fear of a bad analogy, Take Halflife2 for example, For those of you who know who Valve is, They are a great example of market Manipulation, They Hyped the crap outta the game, Offered a free copy with an ATI Vid card(Which was about a year ago), And Still haven't produced One year later, But they did get a good idea of how much money theyre gonna get... They didn't announce the delay til Sept 30th 2003, Which was the day it was supposed to be released.. I can see something coming up and haveing to delay, But announce it, show some respect to your perspective customers, and do not treat them like peons... I can't say thats whats going on with Tascam, because this hardly qualifies only being a couplke weeks late, Lets hope it's not that kinda situation, and if it is, Lets hope theyre upfront about it... I'm hoping for the day when Devs are honest, so far 99.99% have not been because of their money and market worries, They need to remember where their paychecks come from, Maybe some day, That will be the industry standard... Enough of my ranting...

[jens]

I agree with Houston Haynes, although I don't use Halion. I don't see any reason to be anxiously awaiting the release of GS3. I was a bit under-impressed by new features added since Version 2.5 when I saw the software at the Frankfurt Musikmesse. Probably that's mostly my own fault because I had expected something really revolutionary, given the long time that has passed since the release of GS2.
Plus it may take a long time for GS3 to reach the level of stability that GS2 now has. Working with an unstable product can be a nightmare, and I'm pretty happy with the current version.
Even if polyphony is significantly increased without any hardware upgrades (which remains to be seen, however,) and their convolver is as revolutionary as they claim (more than the ones I already use,) I will stick with my current system for at least one more year.
Let's not get stomach ulcers over this...

[Luigi]

I stay with my opinion that GS3 is taking much too long! :mad:

[rkmusic]

TASCAM Website says:

"GigaStudio 3 is the much anticpated new version of the best and most powerful sampler..."

I suppose it is an error in the word "anticpated".
Is it "anticipated"??!! or "antic-pacted"??!! or "anti-packed"??!!, who knows????:eek:

...end of June... It´s like a ghost´s story and with not much capacity of responsability indeed! But at least we deserve the attention of Synthetic as the spokeperson of TASCAM.

Synthetic: Could you please illuminate us one more time? (maybe the last);)

[Przemek K.]

Now I'm confused. When I go to the Tascamgiga.com under " Pricing and upgrades " the shipping date is " end of June 2004 ". BUT if I go to " Support and Service " there is ( under General) a statement of " end of July 2004 ".

It seems that they didn't update their website.

I still hope they shipp it end of July or beginning of August.

[§eth]

Thank you thats what I saw, I knew I was not a liar lol

[Guga Bernardo]

I still don´t understand why people are so desperate to see Tascam releasing G3!!! For me its already dead... you can´t trust a developer that makes you wait for so long... Their software must be real buggy to make them hesitate so much to release it!!!
I guess that they finally found out how impossible was to make Gigastudio run as a plugin without having to re-write it from the scratch!
I am sure of just one thing: While Tascam was sleeping, Native Instruments made me a very, very happy man!