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imagegod
08-10-2004, 11:44 AM
I took Mr. Burrell's suggestion and set the time signature to 99 over 1 and now it won't play from the first note. It starts somewhere in the middle. Any suggestions?

Second: I decided if I can't get the program to work as I want, I'll work the way it wants. (At least in the short term). But that didn't seem to work either. I set time as 4/4...the first measure had 4 1/4 notes...second had 2 1/2 notes...but the third measure won't play 8 1/8 notes...why not?

Thanks!

Joseph Burrell
08-10-2004, 12:01 PM
Make sure you are clicking the right play button. One looks just like an arrow pointing to the right, that is the play from current location button, the other is a an arrow with a verticle line to the immediate left, that is the play from start button. I'm not sure why the 8th notes won't play. What instrument and tempo are you using?

imagegod
08-10-2004, 12:17 PM
Make sure you are clicking the right play button. One looks just like an arrow pointing to the right, that is the play from current location button, the other is a an arrow with a verticle line to the immediate left, that is the play from start button. I'm not sure why the 8th notes won't play. What instrument and tempo are you using?

The default tempo (120bpm). But how should that effect time signature...shouldn't 4/4 always be 4/4 despite the tempo? I sure as heck don't know. I must say I appreciate your help...there probably aren't many people using this product who know nothing beyond the pure art of music writing.

Joseph Burrell
08-10-2004, 12:32 PM
To be honest, I'm grasping for staws :D If it continues not wanting to play at the beginning of the song, I'd click right before the first note with the arrow cursor and hit the 'green arrow' play button (the one on the right.)

Have you made any setup changes or did you just open Overture and start entering notes? Well, obviously you set the time signature to 99/1, but any other changes besides that?

If you continue to have problems, send me the Overture file and I can ivestigate, and if I find the problem, I'll give you written instructions for fixing it.

Check my profile for my email address.

imagegod
08-10-2004, 12:35 PM
Thanks...I'll send the file once I get it off my home computer. And I've already done everything you've suggested (I think).

And it's a new file...every new file I open and set at 99/1 won't start at the beginning. Without any other changes involved.

You'll get the file sometime next week...

Thanks!

snorlax
08-10-2004, 03:39 PM
I took Mr. Burrell's suggestion and set the time signature to 99 over 1 and now it won't play from the first note. It starts somewhere in the middle. Any suggestions?

Second: I decided if I can't get the program to work as I want, I'll work the way it wants. (At least in the short term). But that didn't seem to work either. I set time as 4/4...the first measure had 4 1/4 notes...second had 2 1/2 notes...but the third measure won't play 8 1/8 notes...why not?

Thanks!
IG--What was the problem? I may be able to help? Was this something I'd seen before??
Jim

imagegod
08-10-2004, 03:58 PM
Just as written: I took Mr. Burrell's suggestion and set the time signature to 99 over 1 and now it won't play from the first note. It starts somewhere in the middle.

Second: I set time as 4/4...the first measure had 4 1/4 notes...second had 2 1/2 notes...but the third measure won't play 8 1/8 notes...why not?

I don't know if you've seen it before, but it's driving me nuts...I'm a whiz with Photoshop, but these music programs are driving me crazy. To me, PSD is completely inuitive...yoiu see something, you change something, and you see the change.

Someday I plan on creating a notation program that's much more intuitive than the existing ones.

snorlax
08-10-2004, 04:23 PM
Just as written: I took Mr. Burrell's suggestion and set the time signature to 99 over 1 and now it won't play from the first note. It starts somewhere in the middle.

Someday I plan on creating a notation program that's much more intuitive than the existing ones.
IG,
Feel free to send me the file as well. I'll see what I can do.
Jim

imagegod
08-10-2004, 04:28 PM
All you guys are terrific. If I ever actually get to make music (other than a few short bars), a lot of the credit will go to everyone here. Of course, if I ever get to make GREAT music, I'll take the bow for that one.

Seriously, thanks!

88fingers
08-10-2004, 06:45 PM
Hi Image,

I ran home from work real quick and thought I would check the forum while I was here. ( I know. I'm a forum junkie.)

I had a quick thought that may help. Under options do you have hold timing marked? Also have you written for any other voices for one staff and made them invisible?

I don't know if this will help you or not. I thought I would ask.

imagegod
08-11-2004, 11:10 AM
Under options do you have hold timing marked? Also have you written for any other voices for one staff and made them invisible?

Honest to God, this community is the best. Bar none, and I'm a multiple forum junkie myself (Adobe, KVR-VST, Cakewalk etc.)

However...at this point in time, and for the forseeable future, what I know about the GPO and all inclusive software is close to nil. I'm artistic, but I'm also autistic, which makes self-learning something this none-intuitive difficult if not impossible.

My point...I know what it means to write for other voices in one staff, but I'm completely clueless in terms of doing anything with Overture other than plunking notes on a staff. And clearly, per the above, I'm having plenty of problems with that. So the long answer to your short question is no.

Re:hold timing, since I have no clue what this is or does, unless this is a default setting, again the answer is no. Although I'll be sure to see if I checked it by mistake.

I know a lot of people will think its kind of strange that I'm trying to write music without knowing what I'm doing (and perhaps strange isn't the right word), but if you saw my portfolio of photographic art (which I completed without knowing how to use PSCS) or my 4 novels, you might think otherwise.

Simply the travails of an artistic/autistic genius.

Again, thanks.

imagegod
08-11-2004, 11:20 AM
For those curious, (and slightly OT) the enclosed is quoted from NYTimes.com:

"Autism and Asperger's syndrome are closely related pervasive developmental disorders. Asperger's is often less severe...While many autistic children are mentally retarded, children with Asperger's syndrome are often intellectually precocious, and many demonstrate impressive skills in a particular area. Dr. Powers, a psychologist at the Yale Child Study Center, says that these skills may include unusual talents in math or music, or in visual and spatial understanding."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/10/health/10books.html

So if I seem stupid (and with all the question I'm asking and will continue to ask, it's nearly impossible not to), I thought I'd enclose the above nugget. Autism is a spectrum disease (unlike pregnancy, it's possible to be a little autistic) and related to Aspergers (which may be closer to my own diagnosis).

Hope this helps all my helpers.

Thanks!

gardibolt
08-11-2004, 10:27 PM
Don't feel like you're asking stupid questions. I've asked more than my share. The software is indeed nonintuitive, and the documentation is, shall we say, seriously wanting, at least as far as I can make it out. Luckily there's a very involved community that makes a great deal of difference.

You can write multiple, separate voices on a single staff in Overture SE. There's a button at the bottom that by default says "Voices: All". You can click on the all to choose up to 8 different voices on one staff. So you can click it to voice 1, insert that voice's line, then click voice 2 and enter that voice's line, etc. The others will be grayed out while you work on that one voice, and on playback you'll only hear that one voice. If you want them all, then set to Voices: All. This is useful for divisi writing where multiple musicians might be playing the same note at time, and it also can give you added depth and realistic playback if you move one voice a few ticks using the Quantize feature.

Have you done the little tutorial in Overture SE? It's a good start and covers voice writing a little bit.