GPO& DP4 to make Mp3?

[bmtl]

Hi,

I'm using GPO, and I have a problem with Dp4. I wish I could make an audio file of my music, to convert it into an mp3 file.
I tried to do as the tutorial tell me to do, but I can't open any file in Itunes?
How can I do this?
thanks a lot.
Laurent

[Gil]

Hi Laurent!
Can you describe the problem importing it in iTunes? Did you try opening it with Quicktime player?

[DPDAN]

Hi Laurent,
I'm assuming that you have a stereo final mix that was done using the "bounce to disc" feature. Once you have done that, make note of the soundbite name, and then go to the soundbites window. Scroll down till you find that file and click on it. Now, go up to the mini menu in that same soundbites window and select export audio, I think that's what it's called, I don't have DP open in front of me. The next window will prompt you to save it to a particular location, perhaps the desktop... it will also need to be saved as an "AIFF" file. Once the file is saved as an AIFF, you can then drag it from the desktop to the CD recorder. I have Toast on my G4, and I don't know what you have, but from there you will have a CD that you can play on any CD player, and then you can use that to make an MP3 from. I hope this helps.
DPDan

[bmtl]

Hi Laurent,
I'm assuming that you have a stereo final mix that was done using the "bounce to disc" feature. Once you have done that, make note of the soundbite name, and then go to the soundbites window. Scroll down till you find that file and click on it. Now, go up to the mini menu in that same soundbites window and select export audio, I think that's what it's called, I don't have DP open in front of me. The next window will prompt you to save it to a particular location, perhaps the desktop... it will also need to be saved as an "AIFF" file. Once the file is saved as an AIFF, you can then drag it from the desktop to the CD recorder. I have Toast on my G4, and I don't know what you have, but from there you will have a CD that you can play on any CD player, and then you can use that to make an MP3 from. I hope this helps.
DPDan


Thank you for this help, DPDan & Gil

I did what you told me to do, and I have a file on my desk witch is cold "my mix AIFF" I can open it both with Quick time player & Itunes, but... no sound! What is wrong? I've stricly respected what you told me to do, but I can't ear any thing.
I remarqued that when nothing was selected, the commande "bounce" was inoperative, but when I go in the tracks window and make "select all" and do what you tell me to do, every thing is OK except tne fact I have NO sound.

Thanks for your help!
Laurent

PS: I back from the apple expo, and I saw so many beautiful things! the new Imac is fantastic. I can't anderstand those who buy a PC...

[DPDAN]

check these things....
1. make sure that the tracks you have selected for the "bounce to disc" are not muted
2. make sure that the sample rate is correct.
3. make sure that nothing is set to solo, that will mute other tracks.

Try these things, and if you still don't have sound, let me know and we'll keep going until we get it right. :)

DPDan

[bmtl]

check these things....
1. make sure that the tracks you have selected for the "bounce to disc" are not muted
2. make sure that the sample rate is correct.
3. make sure that nothing is set to solo, that will mute other tracks.

Try these things, and if you still don't have sound, let me know and we'll keep going until we get it right. :)

DPDan

1. I'm sure that all the tracks I've selected are not muted (I can ear all them)
2. what's the sample rate? No idea about this!
3. all the tracks are solo in the mixing board (transleted from the french term...

Big mystery.

[spettigrew]

1. make sure that the tracks you have selected for the "bounce to disc" are not muted

...and assigned to the right outputs. Simple, but I've overlooked this before.
_S

[bmtl]

1. make sure that the tracks you have selected for the "bounce to disc" are not muted

...and assigned to the right outputs. Simple, but I've overlooked this before.
_S

What do you mean? How can I assign to the right outputs?
I select all the tracks, I chose 'bounce" in the audio menu. then I open the soundbites window, and I chose "export the file" (as an AIFF file) in the windows menu. And then, I try to open the file with ITunes, but if it works, I still can't ear any thing!

[spettigrew]

What do you mean? How can I assign to the right outputs?
I select all the tracks, I chose 'bounce" in the audio menu. then I open the soundbites window, and I chose "export the file" (as an AIFF file) in the windows menu. And then, I try to open the file with ITunes, but if it works, I still can't ear any thing!

In the Tracks window, under the Output column, are all the tracks you want to bounce assigned to 1&2?
All of the tracks you wish to combine in the bounce operation must be assigned to the same output or bus pair. If your bouncing to Tracks 1&2, which you probably are, but the tracks you are bouncing from have outputs assigned to 3&4 or 5&6, etc, you'll record a file, like you're doing, but it won't contain any sound. Try assigning the outputs to 1&2 of all the tracks you are bouncing.
If this isn't the problem, post back with your audio card/interface configuration.
_S

[Karl Garrett]

Here is the step-by-step procedure for making an MP3 from your DP file.

Make sure your Sounbite that you have created with your bounce to disk is really what you want to export. Do this.

In the Soundbites window, can you hear your tune when you select your Soundbite? Make sure Audible Mode is turned on. If you still canÕt hear it, click the edit button in the Sounbites window and check to make sure you see wave forms. If you can see the wave forms of your piece and you still canÕt hear it, let me know and IÕll tell you how to set it up so you can. I canÕt remember the step-by-step details. It has to do with creating bundles or something like that. ItÕs been a while since IÕve had to do it.

Then, check your Soundbite. In the Soundbites window, click the ÒInfoÓ button. Make sure that the sample rate is 44100 and the sample format is 16. If it is not you will have to rebounce your tracks with those settings.

If you need help with creating this final mix let us know.

Now, in the Soundbites window, back in List Mode, select your tune. From the mini menu, select Export Selected Bites. In the Save dialog window that appears, in the format menu select AIFF file. Save this file to your desktop.

Save and Quit DP.

Now, open iTunes. Drag your tuneÕs file into the Library. It will take a second while iTunes copies it.

You should be able to play your piece in iTunes at this time.
Make sure your tune is selected.
Now, in the Advanced menu select Convert Selected to MP3. When the conversion is done, drag the new MP3 file to your desktop and use it anyway you want. Maybe you would like to post it here.

Good luck

Karl

[DPDAN]

All of the selected tracks must be assigned to Mix 1-2,
not any of the busses.

[DPDAN]

Hi Karl! I finally sent you a CD of the stuff I have done, but unfortunately the Jurassic Park mix that is on the CD is poo poo compared to the new mix. Hopefully one of us here is gonna figure this one out. :)

[spettigrew]

All of the selected tracks must be assigned to Mix 1-2,
not any of the busses.
Right, not for bouncing. Sorry for any confusion. Assign to a buss if you want to record to an audio track.
Hey DPDAN, are you up on MachFive and ProTools? If so, can I PM you a puzzler I have?

_S

[DPDAN]

Hi Spettigrew, I have never used Protools or Mach 5,
but you are certainly welcome to PM if you like. :)

Dan

[bmtl]

Hi guys,

First, I have to say that I'm new with all of this, so excuse me if sometimes I don't anderstand what you're explaining to me.
If I can resume the facts:

I have a command from a brass ensemble to write music. It's usefull I tell you that because it has something to do with my setting. So I have in dp 4 three groups:
- brass quintet solo
- brass ensemble
- percussion set

For each group, I have made a GPO instrument, and inside these instruments I have the detail (for ex; for the instrument "brass quintet" I have 2 trp/horn/trb/tub, that means that I have for each GPO 1-1, GPO 1-2 .....GPO 2-1...

The output is "integrated audio 1-2"

When I play the score, I can ear all these parts, no track is muted.

To make a bounce, I select all the tracks (including the "instrument tracks") and I chosse "bounce" in the audio menu. I can see a little window witch tells me that the bounce is in progress.

Ones this operation is done, I open the soundbites window, and I can see the bounce witch is called my piece mix. In the info window, I can check that the sample rate is 44100, 16 bits... all as you told me. But when I want to make an audition of the selected soundbite, I have nothing!

even it didn't work, I tried to export the file on my desk as an "AIFF file", put it into ITunes and convert the file in mp3, but if the opŽration seems to work, I still can't ear anything!

I hope that my purposes are clear and that somebody will help me.
Regards
Laurent

[DPDAN]

Hi Laurent, I think I know now what you need to do.

Do this...

go to the track's mini menu and select "add track" then select stereo voice.
Place the new added stereo voice track into record mode, and set the GPO sounds to go to that track.
Record all of your GPO instruments to that track.
Once that is completed, highlight that track, and use the "bounce to disc" feature.
Do the rest of the tasks that you have been doing and then check if you have audio.

Keep trying
:)
Dan

[Karl Garrett]

Hi Laurent,

I think that your problem is that you are trying to bounce instrument tracks. The bounce to disk command is a shortcut way of combining audio tracks. You canÕt bounce an instrument track. You need to record your instrument tracks to audio then for your final mix bounce them down to a master track. There will never be any data in an Instrument track.

A way to think of it is kind of like this. An Instrument track is a way that DP has of routing the MIDI data to the Kontakt player where your GPO instruments live. You will notice that there is actually no data on the Instrument track itself. When you play DP with an Instrument track and its related MIDI tracks play enabled, you are playing those GPO instruments live. You need to record this live performance onto an audio track.

Lets do it real simple first. We will use no reverb or aux. tracks etc.

Lets first just get one instrument track into audio so you can see the results and how it all works. I think when you do this the concepts will be clearer to you. You may soon find a way other than this, but first do it exactly as below. We will record one instance of the Kontakt player (one Instrument track) at a time.

Do all the following from your Tracks window.


Make sure that you have only the Instrument track and its related MIDI tracks play enabled.
From the Project menu, select ÒAdd Track >> Stereo Audio Track.Ó
For convenience, place this track above the play enabled instrument track.
In the ÒOutputÓ column, of your Instrument track, select ÒStereo Bus 1,2.Ó
In the ÒInputÓ column of your new Stereo Audio track, select ÒStereo Bus 1,2.Ó
Set the output of your Stereo Audio track to wherever you are feeding your audio signal, analog 1,2, Main Outs, etc.
Make sure that the Record Enabled button on your Audio track is glowing orange. If it isnÕt, press it to enable it. DonÕt activate the Play Enabled button for your Audio Track.
Now, start recording. You should see the little green level meters for the different tracks react to the signal, and you should see the recording activity in your Audio Track. When you have made the pass and are finished, you should see recorded waves in your Audio Track.
Deactivate the Play Enabled button in your Instrument Track and activate the Play Enabled button in your Audio track. This audio track should be the only one enabled.
Press PLAY. You should hear the recorded instrument. If you canÕt hear anything, but you can see the recorded waves in your Audio Track, check your output setting and check your ÒVoiceÓ settings to make sure that DP has a voice with which to play back.


If you get this far OK, let us know and we can help you with multiple track recording etc.

If you are still having trouble, please pm me and IÕll give you my phone number. IÕll be happy to help you get going.

Hang in there,

Karl

[bmtl]

Thank you so much! It works.
It's very simple, but when I tried to do it following the dp 4 tutorial, I didn't anderstand any thing. I just have few lignes telling me that it's so simple to do but, if it's ture that it's very simple, they didn't think just one second that a very beginner with all of this could not manage to do it!

Ones again, thank you so much, and when I'll have the mix I want, I'll post it...

Regards
Laurent