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Ned Bouhalassa
10-21-2004, 03:39 PM
I'm getting random clicks, mostly in the right output, when I play the Solo Bassoon 2. Can anyone else using the latest Mac AU version of GPO verify this please?

My setup: GPO AU + Logic Pro 7

fmfgs
10-21-2004, 04:50 PM
Oh No! pleeease - not this one.

Hi Ned
I dont have Mac, but can you do me a favor?
Increase the polyphonie in the player (eg 3 instead of 1) and see whether it makes a difference.
rené

Karl Garrett
10-21-2004, 05:34 PM
I am using the solo bassoon 2 extensively for the Grandfather in Peter and the Wolf. I’ve been using the beta versions and now the new release. as an au on a Mac with performer. I’ve found no clicks. I was under the impression that the problems with Logic were solved.

Karl

Ned Bouhalassa
10-21-2004, 05:47 PM
Salut René!

No worries, you were right. The clicks disappear when I set the polyphony to 4 or more.

Thanks for the tip. :)

The bad news, of course, is that the newbies who have no idea that this community exists will pull out their hair trying to figure out if it's their host, or their interface, speakers, etc that is creating these clicks.

Karl Garrett
10-21-2004, 06:26 PM
The problem with changing the polyphony of a solo woodwind instrument is that it doesn't function as well as a solo instrument. There should be no clicks when polyphony is set to 1, and at least with DP, I don't get any.

Good Luck

Karl

Tom Hopkins
10-21-2004, 06:33 PM
Ned,

Setting the polyphony to a higher value does remove the symptom (clicks) but at the loss of the tongue/slur function which only works when the polyphony is set to "1." This particular clicking problem is well known and should be fixed in the new version. I've checked it on my system (PC) and there are no clicks. Are you certain that the player updated properly? Check the version number (1.1.0.04) and the presence of the up and down arrows on the "load" button. We need to know if NI missed something in the Mac version.

Tom

fmfgs
10-21-2004, 07:32 PM
Salut René!

No worries, you were right. The clicks disappear when I set the polyphony to 4 or more.



ok Ned
Now please test nr. 2:
1. Make shure you have no overlapping notes (should be a function in the sequencer).
2. Set Poly back to 1
What does it sound like?
rené

Ned Bouhalassa
10-21-2004, 09:33 PM
Same clicks.

crr
10-22-2004, 03:13 AM
Do you install and turn on the DFD?
it can be it's a problem with DFD working on a not fast hard-disk.

fmfgs
10-22-2004, 03:26 AM
Same clicks.

Now I'm lost because I dont have a Mac (but some others of the Beta Team have). Before it was fixed by NI I could avoid the clicks also by setting very big buffers and changing the audio drivers.
Can please some other Mac users give feedback here?
rené

Ned Bouhalassa
10-22-2004, 05:04 AM
Do you install and turn on the DFD?
it can be it's a problem with DFD working on a not fast hard-disk.

No, I did not install the DFD. But I did do these tests on a song that had a lot of stuff loaded into RAM (I have 2Gigs). I'll do another test this morning using a lighter song.

Ned Bouhalassa
10-22-2004, 05:09 AM
Well, I did a test with only one instance of GPO loaded in Logic 7, nothing else. The clicks are still there. Looks like the solution for now is simply to set the polyphony higher.

crr
10-22-2004, 07:51 AM
On my powerbook it's working fine and i didn't notice anything strange also during beta-testing. Let's hear other mac-users

Karl Garrett
10-22-2004, 08:35 AM
Don't forget that there are artifacts in the solo bassoon that are part of the sample. These are supposed to be there. They are an important part of the character of the instrument.

I repeat, with DP4 on a Mac there are no clicks in the solo bassoon 2 patch.

Here is a short sample of what I've been doing with that bassoon sound. If there are any clicks I had better trade in my ears.


Peter 15,16 Mix (http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/larkg/Peter%2015,16%20Mix.mp3)

I have listened to every note of the patch for at least 10 seconds and have found no clicks. If I get a chance this weekend, I'll record them and post them. Perhaps It's Logic problem.

Karl

Ned Bouhalassa
10-22-2004, 08:57 AM
On my powerbook it's working fine and i didn't notice anything strange also during beta-testing. Let's hear other mac-users

Are/were you using Logic 7?

Ned Bouhalassa
10-22-2004, 08:58 AM
Don't forget that there are artifacts in the solo bassoon that are part of the sample.

Thanks Karl, but I have enough experience to recognize unwanted DC-like clicks. I used to edit them out with Sound Designer I... :D

Anyhow, it's not such a big deal for me. I'll just up the polyphony to 4.

Karl Garrett
10-22-2004, 10:29 AM
Anyhow, it's not such a big deal for me. I'll just up the polyphony to 4.
Ned,

It's a shame to have to do that. I wish I could be of some help to you. I know there was a lot of attention given to the interaction of Logic and GPO by Tom and the beta team. I am just surprised to hear that someone is having this kind of trouble. Sigh...

Best of luck with it,

Karl