I've heard this before . . . .

[SeanHannifin]

Does that ever happen to you? Your just listening to some random piece of music when a movement comes up that you realize is famous and you've heard if before, but never knew it came from what you were listening to?

I just listened to Aaron Copland's 3rd Symphony (man, I'd love to be able to write a symphony like that), and when the last movement came up, I gasped :eek: I didn't know this theme came from Copland's symphony! It's that music I always here on TV when they're talking sports victories usually. How cool! Will the wonders ever cease?

[tgfoo]

Happens to me a bunch. What sucks is when you make a song the night/week before, and then you go to listen to it again and realize, "I've heard this before..."

[DPDAN]

Happens to me a bunch. What sucks is when you make a song the night/week before, and then you go to listen to it again and realize, "I've heard this before..."
that's why I haven't tried to write anything original, ha, what does that mean anyway :cool: "original" right
too depressing.

[SeanHannifin]

Ah, who cares, great composers steal right? But I guess that doesn't mean stealers are great composers . . . :D Probably better not steal until you know you are great, I guess.

[ixm]

Yes. Then I try to rack my brain until I remember. Hate when I forget something of that nature. :D

[tgfoo]

I think this is the reason why the music industry depresses me right now.... It seems liek all of the "new" music that is coming out sounds exactly the same. Am I the only person who feels this way?

[Jerry W.]

I think this is the reason why the music industry depresses me right now.... It seems liek all of the "new" music that is coming out sounds exactly the same. Am I the only person who feels this way?

This happens to me a LOT - I usually figure it out, but not until I have stopped racking my brains trying to remember it.

:)

Jerry

[tgfoo]

This happens to me a LOT - I usually figure it out, but not until I have stopped racking my brains trying to remember it.

:)

Jerry

Ok, good. I wasn't sure if I had gone crazy or not...

[J. Whaley]

Does that ever happen to you? Your just listening to some random piece of music when a movement comes up that you realize is famous and you've heard if before, but never knew it came from what you were listening to?

I just listened to Aaron Copland's 3rd Symphony (man, I'd love to be able to write a symphony like that), and when the last movement came up, I gasped :eek: I didn't know this theme came from Copland's symphony! It's that music I always here on TV when they're talking sports victories usually. How cool! Will the wonders ever cease?


Sean, the interesting thing about this comment is I think copland had heard it before his 3rd symphony too! If I recall from my last reading of the liner notes (probably a couple years ago) the "Fanfare" was written several years before the symphony, and for some reason he felt the need to include it in his 3rd movement. Some other music history buff could correct this if I'm wrong.



The really funny thing is now, after spending several months in a row on a similar project, I find myself writing something and saying "i think i've heard that before... who wrote that... who wrote that..... oh my gosh, that's my tune! i wrote that 4 weeks ago... shoot, I can't use that.... I've already written it.... well, if I hadn't already written it I would have written it just right now... hmmm... can I do it backwards......"



J-

[SeanHannifin]

The little CD booklet says this:


The fanfare that opens the last movement, and that is developed in its course, began as the Fanfare for the Common Man. He had written the fanfare as a contribution to the allied war effort on commission from Sir Eugene Goossens, who was then the Music Director of the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra. As an independent piece, it succeeded beyond Compland's wildest imagination, becoming as obligatory for joyful occasions in the United States as Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings would become for solemn ones.

Of course, a couple years ago, a string of beef ads began featuring his music, and a whole new association was born: Rodeo: Hoe-Down = Beef. It's what for dinner.

Gotta love it! :D

[J. Whaley]

I think this is the reason why the music industry depresses me right now.... It seems liek all of the "new" music that is coming out sounds exactly the same. Am I the only person who feels this way?



Nah - that's what you call the effect of popular music - If everything is starting to sound the same to you, it just means the stage is set for some genius to step forward and create the next cool sound. At the turn of the century many were likely feeling that everything was sounding the same - but then out of nowhere, people started creating new music. Copland managed to create a new music sound that would forever be identified with the sound of the "west". Interestingly enough, the guys over in Germany were creating a totally new music - one that was not so accepted at first, but later proved very handy in certain writing situations.

The "Same sound" effect is in my opinion merely a result of having more and more people being heard who simply take their inspiration from a lot of other modern writers... but few people (including myself) really take the time to devote themselves to such a study of composition, and are blessed enough to have such a brilliant mind blessing from their maker - to really create new music.


Also, people who make the comment that "all music sounds the same" are judging "all music" as that which is most popular. But in almost all cases of musical evolution, true creative sounds come from underground - places where little or no money is to be made. Only later, after it has been refined a bit more is it in a state where the public is really ready to accept it - and then it evolves into popular music... which eventually all sounds the same. But that's just the case of popular.... the new stuff... well that's up to us to create..... if we can :)

[J. Whaley]

The little CD booklet says this:



Of course, a couple years ago, a string of beef ads began featuring his music, and a whole new association was born: Rodeo: Hoe-Down = Beef. It's what for dinner.

Gotta love it! :D


Aha - I thought I remembered reading something like that a few years back :)

[FredProgGH]

And let's not forget Emerson Lake and Palmer's versions of Hoedown and the Fanfare.

Or better yet, let's do!! :D

[rwayland]

Does that ever happen to you? Your just listening to some random piece of music when a movement comes up that you realize is famous and you've heard if before, but never knew it came from what you were listening to?

I just listened to Aaron Copland's 3rd Symphony (man, I'd love to be able to write a symphony like that), and when the last movement came up, I gasped :eek: I didn't know this theme came from Copland's symphony! It's that music I always here on TV when they're talking sports victories usually. How cool! Will the wonders ever cease?


What is even more weird is when you reccognize a piece that you have never heard before. About 30 years ago, I was driving and turned on the car radio, which I seldom do, and heard some beautiful music, which I immediately recognized as Tchaikowsky's violin concerto, which I had not previously heard, and I pulled in to a parking lot and listened to the whole thing, which had barely started. I was late for something, but don't remember what, but I remember the music! It was obviously a very good violin concerto, the style was obviously Tchaikowsky, so --

But sometimes I recognize a piece just because 40 years ago, I read the score while having coffee and a burger in Breckenridge, Texas.

But regarding modern songs all sounding the same, I am reminded of what my friend said back in '55, "It's amazing how they find so many different titles for the same songs."


Richard

[SeanHannifin]

But sometimes I recognize a piece just because 40 years ago, I read the score while having coffee and a burger in Breckenridge, Texas.

Wow, that's impressive!

[FredProgGH]

What is even more weird is when you reccognize a piece that you have never heard before.

Well, if you think you might be remembering something you couldn't be able to remember is it possible you could fail to remember you could remember something that you actually do remember but forgot?? That you remember, that is.