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Christopher Duncan

11-03-2004, 02:50 PM

I've spoken with Gary and we both feel confident that anyone who sent him demos to post on the Garritan.com site would be okay with it being used on the Internet radio station. However, I'm a very vocal advocate of protecting intellectual property rights and even though I'm sure most of you wouldn't mind, I won't include any material on the radio station without your explicit permission. Even though it might delay the launch of the station, it's a gesture of respect that I feel each of you deserve.

So, if you have demos on Gary's site, please email me (or just reply to this post) and let me know that I can include them in the station programming. I can get the mp3 files, your bio and the song info from the site, but please feel free to include anything else you'd like for our announcers to know when they introduce your work. The whole idea is to promote your creativity!

You can either pm me or email me with the permission and info. Here's the temporary info page about the station while the site is being redesigned:
http://www.showprogramming.com/GpoTmp.asp

The sooner we get enough music in, the sooner we can go live. Every one of the demos I've heard have been wonderful, and we'd really like to share them with the masses (washed and otherwise), so please take a moment and drop me a line!

Thanks, folks!

Alan Lastufka

11-03-2004, 03:09 PM

CD,

Can I just post my 'permission granted' here? It's easier for me than leaving the site to email or clutter up my PM box.

Anyway - I have "Widow of War" and "November" on the site - it is ok for you to use both/either/neither at your choosing.

Thanks.

Christopher Duncan

11-03-2004, 03:12 PM

robgb

11-03-2004, 05:35 PM

I've got one called Desert Waltz over there that you're free to broadcast...

DPDAN

11-03-2004, 05:57 PM

Christopher, you have mail. :)

Shazbot

11-03-2004, 06:26 PM

You are more than welcome to air "Thorvald's Saga". It is 7:25, though, so you may want to make it a two-parter...

Shaz

Garritan

11-03-2004, 06:46 PM

I ask all of you who have posted music on this forum or on the GPO demo page to have your permission to broadcast your music. Christopher is right about erring on the side of caution. Please send any bio information as well. Who knows, you may just be discovered on the Internet radio station. http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Gary Garritan

SteveMitchell

11-03-2004, 06:53 PM

Hi Gary - I haven't exactly posted it to this forum, but I did make an offsite link available.

Sure, if you like it, play away.

SteveMitchell

Christopher Duncan

11-03-2004, 09:01 PM

Thanks, everyone. Keep those cards and letters coming! :)

Haydn

11-03-2004, 09:02 PM

You have permission to use any of my demos.

Jim Ortner

dubaifox

11-03-2004, 09:52 PM

I have one called "Space Aria" and another "Camel Caravan"

Feel free to use them!

Paul Hopkins

SeanHannifin

11-03-2004, 10:16 PM

Makes me wish I had made more demos! :D

Jerry W.

11-03-2004, 11:30 PM

bosone

11-04-2004, 02:07 AM

rwayland

11-04-2004, 02:28 AM

I've spoken with Gary and we both feel confident that anyone who sent him demos to post on the Garritan.com site would be okay with it being used on the Internet radio station. However, I'm a very vocal advocate of protecting intellectual property rights and even though I'm sure most of you wouldn't mind, I won't include any material on the radio station without your explicit permission. Even though it might delay the launch of the station, it's a gesture of respect that I feel each of you deserve.

. . .

The sooner we get enough music in, the sooner we can go live. Every one of the demos I've heard have been wonderful, and we'd really like to share them with the masses (washed and otherwise), so please take a moment and drop me a line!

Thanks, folks!

Sounds like a really good deal to me. But I wonder if a bunch of submissions might clog your site? I have dialup, and even with my best connection, uploading would be slow. It looks like WMA format requires about 1 Mb per minute, and uploading would require an average of 15 or so minutes for a 5 minute piece. Would you be amenable to a cd with WMA files? I have quite a few, but am presently planning on sending probably 6 pipe organ and 6 piano pieces. That is a lot ot upload time, but I could spread it out over a week or more, I guess.

Richard

Christopher Duncan

11-04-2004, 05:17 AM

Makes me wish I had made more demos! :DWell, it certainly isn't limited to the demos on Gary's site. Send in any work of yours that you want to get (virtual) air time for - the more the merrier!

Remember, it doesn't have to be 100% GPO - you can submit any piece that uses GPO along with whatever else you're doing.

Christopher Duncan

11-04-2004, 05:19 AM

Hey Christopher,

You certainly have my permission to use my music. What a treat!! If you need more info about each of my pieces, let me know. Are you just using the blurbs from the demo page? Or are you also looking though the posts and threads where many of the demos first made their appearance? I can give you all the info you need on the pieces I have here in the forum and demos if it will help.

Jerry Wickham :)Hey, Jerry.

I can use the blurbs from the demo page, but the more info you can provide me about yourself and your individual pieces, the more Charlie and Deirdre will have to work with as they introduce your music. So I'd say yes please, all the info on all your stuff! :)

Christopher Duncan

11-04-2004, 05:26 AM

yeah, you can use my heavy metal demo "the sword of the king", but i think it's too short... and it's not a complete song, but rather an "intro"... i lack a singer for the type of song i had in mind! :-)
anyway, if a metal producer listen it, he may find me a singer!! :-D
on the mp3 there are all the info about how to contact me.
Hey, Bosone.

The classical pieces are easy, thanks.

As for the metal demo, I'd love to have the variety. However, since this is a radio station, it wouldn't be appropriate to air just a portion of a song (which is a bummer, as I thought it was complete and was looking forward to hearing the rest of it!).

Would it possibly work as a full song in an instrumental capacity? If not, and you can't find the perfect singer (we know how hard that can be!), then keep us in mind for any future stuff like this you do where you have melodic instrumentals, etc. in this style.

Most importantly, keep writing, man! And as you come up with new work, send it it! :)

Christopher Duncan

11-04-2004, 05:40 AM

Sounds like a really good deal to me. But I wonder if a bunch of submissions might clog your site? I have dialup, and even with my best connection, uploading would be slow. It looks like WMA format requires about 1 Mb per minute, and uploading would require an average of 15 or so minutes for a 5 minute piece. Would you be amenable to a cd with WMA files? I have quite a few, but am presently planning on sending probably 6 pipe organ and 6 piano pieces. That is a lot ot upload time, but I could spread it out over a week or more, I guess.

RichardHey, Richard.

That's an excellent point, thanks for bringing it up. You can certainly send a CD via snail mail if it would be more convenient for you. If you send a data CD, it will need to be Windows format as we don't have Macs or Linux boxes here, but if you don't have access to a Windows computer you can always send it as a standard Red Book audio CD. And if you're sending a CD, it can be .wav files or any resolution of mp3 / wma that's convenient for you - we'll convert as needed. For those sending snail mail, please include your email address so we can easily reach you.

The information for the songs, bios, etc. can be sent either via email/pm or include it as text files on Windows format data CDs. I've included the snail mail address on the info page I posted, but here it is again for convenience:

Show Programming of Atlanta, Inc.
P.O. Box 4873
Canton, GA 30114

It's a small company, so I check the mail personally - no need for any fancy department routing information on the mail. :)

Thanks for the idea!

musicpete

11-04-2004, 07:15 AM

Hello Christopher!

I would feel flattered if my music would be included in the radio station's program. This translates to: You have my permission to broadcast my music.

My demos are on Gary's site under the name "Peter Cernuska". The URL of my website is http://www.abovethestaff.net (dunno if Gary already included it on his site). You actually can get my bio and many other pieces from the website.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to pm me.

Peter

Ron Klaren

11-04-2004, 07:18 AM

CD,

No problem, feel free to use any music I have posted or will post in the future, wether it's from the demopage or from this forum.

Most of my music can be found in this topic:

http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23953

One exeption would be Astoria School Theme, since that's a copyrighted piece.

Good luck !

Ron

David_Maddux

11-04-2004, 10:54 AM

Christopher:

Count me in. Anything of mine you can find on the site here is good to go.

David Maddux
Here's my email address. (madduxdavid@yahoo.com)

Styxx

11-04-2004, 11:50 AM

You have my permission to use anything I have on the demo page / forum of mine.
Thanks again.

danpowers

11-04-2004, 12:42 PM

You have permission to use any of mine.

SeanHannifin

11-04-2004, 03:02 PM

Well, it certainly isn't limited to the demos on Gary's site. Send in any work of yours that you want to get (virtual) air time for - the more the merrier!
Awesome! In that case, I'll certainly submit the three demos I've got posted on my website . . .

Christopher Duncan

11-04-2004, 03:42 PM

Excellent, guys! I see we're getting more and more folks on board. I know Deirdre, Charlie and I are all anxious to get into the studio and start getting this put together, so keep those confirmations and mp3 files coming! :)

SteveMitchell

11-04-2004, 04:04 PM

Hi Christopher - With the addendum that they don't have to all GPO, please use music from my site @ http://music.download.com/thecmrplayers

Feel free to use anything there. I plan on re-rendering them to be ALL GPO.

SteveMitchell

trentpmcd

11-04-2004, 04:55 PM

Anything I have posted here or posted on the GPO demo page can be used.

Jerry W.

11-04-2004, 05:50 PM

Ok Christopher,

Here are the links to my posts of all the music I have posted here on the forum.

Each has more info about the pieces. I'll send a little bio blurb soon

A Lullaby
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22398

Chronomentrophobia
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22380

Lament
(please use the Lament-rev-b.mp3 version!! - the link is located towards the bottom of the page in a reply)
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23059

Processional March
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24150

Thanks so much!!!

Jerry :)

FredProgGH

11-04-2004, 08:59 PM

Count me in, for sure!! :D

Looper

11-04-2004, 09:16 PM

Feel free to use "Summer Skies", although the season may not be quite right perhaps it will remind folks that Spring is only...less than half a year away. :)

Jun Yamamoto

11-05-2004, 01:32 AM

Dear Christopher,

This is my explicit permission to use my demo tune "Eternal River" in the Internet Radio Station.

[Title of the tune] Eternal River-Reunion

[Comment on the tune]

The river flows unchanged for hundreds of years. I wish to meet with you again by this river beyond one thousand years....

[Bio]

Jun Yamamoto

Born in Tokyo, Japan in late '50s.

Mainly self-educated in classical music and jazz.

Led a jazz/fusion band called "Landscape" during the period from 1982 to 1987 in Osaka, Japan.

Engaged in MIDI composition since 1993.

Encountered with Garritan Personal Orchestra in 2004.

[End of Bio]

P.S.
If necessary, you can use the following two pieces also. They are created only with GPO too.

[Name of Tune] Shikararete

[Comment]
Compolsed by Ryutaro Hirota (Copyright expired)
Arranged by Jun Yamamoto for GPO

[MP3 File]
http://www.ismusic.ne.jp/yamamoto_jun/shikara.mp3

[Name of Tune] Promise

[Comment]
I wish your new life will be with full of happiness...

[MP3 File]
http://www.ismusic.ne.jp/yamamoto_jun/promise.mp3

rwayland

11-05-2004, 03:07 AM

Feel free to use "Summer Skies", although the season may not be quite right perhaps it will remind folks that Spring is only...less than half a year away. :)

Well, I suspect you might get some disagreement from the folks in New Zealand and Australia.

Richard

Christopher Duncan

11-05-2004, 04:53 AM

This is my explicit permission to use my demo tune "Eternal River" in the Internet Radio Station.

P.S.
If necessary, you can use the following two pieces also. They are created only with GPO too.
Domo arigato gozaimasu, Jun san!

By the way, you can include any of your work as long as it has at least a little GPO - they don't have to be 100% GPO, although it's always great if they are.

Christopher Duncan

11-05-2004, 04:54 AM

Well, I suspect you might get some disagreement from the folks in New Zealand and Australia.

RichardYeah, pretty cool to live in an international community, ain't it? :)

ailteoir

11-05-2004, 10:18 AM

christopher, you should receive an e-mail from me but just to confirm please feel free to use any of the demos i have on the GPO site. or any music i may post here on that you find at all suitable.

slán

mick ó c

gardibolt

11-05-2004, 02:05 PM

bmonroney

11-05-2004, 02:12 PM

I'm pretty sure my mock-up of Wagner's "Isoldens Liebestod" is public domain at nearly 140 years old...you're welcome to use it.

musicpete

11-05-2004, 02:56 PM

Dear Christopher!

I forgot to add one thing: I would GREATLY appreciate it, if you took my demos from my website and NOT from the Garritan one since the latter one simply is outdated. I have newer and better versions available for download.

Aziraphal

11-05-2004, 04:21 PM

My humble quartet is all yours, and any other demos I might do after I get my hands on a better machine. Though I don't feel worthy after some stuff I heard lately.. :)
http://www.garritan.com/mp3/TabulaPerdita.mp3
Cheers Matt

tabtech

11-05-2004, 04:35 PM

Christopher,

You have my permission to broadcast any of my three pieces: Flight of the Glider, Intro-Scherzo-Finale, or String Adagio.

I am honored.

Thomas Bishop

MSayre

11-05-2004, 05:14 PM

Cool idea, Christopher. If you want to use my music on the GOS demo page, feel free (not sure if this is only for GPO).

Cerrabore

11-05-2004, 10:03 PM

Hmm, I have a demo on the site ("The Armies Clash" by Henry Buck), but frankly I am embarrassed by it...I guess I'll remake it someday, but in the meantime, please no.

Christopher Duncan

11-06-2004, 06:23 AM

Hmm, I have a demo on the site ("The Armies Clash" by Henry Buck), but frankly I am embarrassed by it...I guess I'll remake it someday, but in the meantime, please no.No problem, man - nothing is included unless people explicitly ask for it to be. Looking forward to hearing more of your work!

Christopher Duncan

11-06-2004, 06:25 AM

Cool idea, Christopher. If you want to use my music on the GOS demo page, feel free (not sure if this is only for GPO).Thanks, man, and that's a good point!

Yes, everyone, this includes GOS as well as GPO - the spirit of it is to promote the entire community of people who use "Gary's Stuff". So if you use any of either in your songs, they can be included.

Christopher Duncan

11-06-2004, 06:30 AM

I'm fine with inclusion of any Unheard Beethoven demos from me (we're all about getting the Unheard heard, after all), though we'd appreciate a plug for http://www.unheardbeethoven.org (http://www.unheardbeethoven.org/) to accompany them. :)An excellent suggestion, and something I'm glad you brought up. We'd be delighted to plug Unheard Beethoven - that's the entire point of this little exercies, to promote you through your music!

I hope everyone else reads this and takes note. Along with your songs, send us your bio info, web links you'd like mentioned, any projects you're working on that you'd like us to promote, etc. It will be of interest to the listeners, and it will help your projects!

Christopher Duncan

11-06-2004, 06:32 AM

dubaifox

11-06-2004, 08:52 AM

Christopher:

In addition to the other two I mentioned earlier, here is a third one I just finished "Pyramids".

http://www.hopkinsmusic.com/Pyramids.mp3

Zelazowa

11-07-2004, 04:39 PM

Hey Christopher,

You certainly have my permission to use my music.

Thanks for your great idea.

Zelazowa

kstevege

12-17-2004, 01:52 PM

Thanks!
You have my Permission

Stephen G. Court

galvedro

12-19-2004, 02:17 PM

My cues are at your disposal too. :)

Anton

Brian2112

12-19-2004, 02:30 PM

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Christopher Duncan

12-20-2004, 04:51 AM

Thanks!
You have my Permission

Stephen G. CourtThanks, Stephen - I'll grab them for the next round of programming!

Christopher Duncan

12-20-2004, 04:51 AM

My cues are at your disposal too. :)

AntonThanks, Anton - When we do the next batch of songs, I'll be happy to add yours!

Christopher Duncan

12-20-2004, 05:07 AM

Copyrights to all pieces are owned exclusively by the composer(s). In most cases, the composer(s) will grant a client a Limited Exclusive Use Grant of the copyrighted material... Hey, Brian.

I know you're probably just kidding around, but I thought I'd take this opportunity to make sure that everyone understands the copyright and licensing stuff on this. Copyrights are indeed owned exclusively by the composer, as well as similar rights which are retained by the original creator of the MIDI file used (you can't start with someone else's MIDI file on, say, a classical piece, without their permission and without giving them credit - it's their intellectual property, just like the songs you write are yours).

However, without resorting to pages of tiny print :p, the usage is very simple - everyone who contributes their music allows Show Programming to play it on the Composer Channel royalty free in exchange for promotional considerations (and we intend to promote the heck out of it!), but this is a non-exclusive use. In other words, this is your music, and you remain free to do whatever else with it that you like. And of course, it's our hope that even more people will become interested in it through the exposure you get from the station.

As for the other blah, blah stuff ;), it doesn't matter if you make the demo wheel or not. You can send us anything you write that you'd like to get airplay for - just go to http://www.showprogramming.com/GettingAirplay.asp for details on how to get it to us.

Now quit playing around with all that fine print and go compose something! :D

mschiff

12-20-2004, 10:53 AM

Chris,

You have my permission to use anything on the Garritan site of mine for your station, or anything from my website or Soundclick site. Bio information can be found at my web address below.

-- Martin Schiff

Sepretod

12-21-2004, 07:50 AM

Christopher Duncan

12-21-2004, 08:05 AM

No problems with using my "MotherTrucker" score. Actually, while you're at it, could you update the video link? I have a website now, and the video is hosted on it at the URL http://www.unitedidiotpictures.com/media/mothertrucker1.avi .

Thanks, and apologies for the late reply to this thread.

Bill McGuireIt's never too late to join the party! :) Glad to have you with us.

Regarding the video link, since I don't work for Gary's company I don't have access to maintaining his web site, so the best thing to do is just shoot him an email or pm to get it updated.

Thanks!