Violin gliss, slips and slides? How do...

[Styxx]

How does one achieve slides up and or down with stings, violin solo, string sections and? No way pitch bend possible. It has to be done somehow in edit window but what is the best technique to achieve the closest natural effect? I'm stumped. :confused: :mad:

[billp]

How does one achieve slides up and or down with stings
Styxx,
I got this (http://www.broadviewnet.net/wylbur/Gliss.mp3) using chromatic 64th's with pedal down.

[Slandrom]

Styxx,
I got this (http://www.broadviewnet.net/wylbur/Gliss.mp3) using chromatic 64th's with pedal down.

Also try the new length control CC#21

Björn

[Styxx]

Also try the new length control CC#21

Björn
Thanks
This is found on the contact player and effects only the channel it is set to?

[Slandrom]

Thanks
This is found on the contact player and effects only the channel it is set to?

I use it within Finale as an expression with midi-information Don´t think you can use it direct in the Kontakt Player.

Björn

[Styxx]

Oh, OK. Thanks for the help anyway. I guess it's not that important. I'll figure it out.
Thanks again.

[sfiks]

With keyswitched Solo Strings I used the following:
Before the 1st note put keyswitch C(x) and controller CC64 = 127.
Before the 2nd note put controller CC20 = 127 for longest portamento (start with CC20 = 127 - it'll help to figure out how it works). The less value of CC20 - the faster slide. Don't forget to put CC20 = 0 at the end of the 2nd note http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif or you'll end up with slide between all the following notes.
BTW, conroller CC21 has nothing to do with portamento.

[Slandrom]

Thanks
This is found on the contact player and effects only the channel it is set to?

Just saw it is on the Kontakt also, but that way I suppose it will be "on" for that instrument the whole piece.

Björn

[Jeff Turner]

Just saw it is on the Kontakt also, but that way I suppose it will be "on" for that instrument the whole piece.

Björn


No, like all controls on the Kontakt player, the length control only effects all samples if they're all set to the same midi channel. You can have 8 instruments loaded in the 8 slots of a single player, and each instrument can have a different "length" value. As well as different Var. 1 & Var. 2 values.

JT

[billp]

Before the 2nd note put controller CC20
I had messed around with portamento, but found it unpredictable in the sense that you have to tweak around with the value to get

just the right rate. Then if you change the tempo of that section, its timing is no longer right and you have to go back and tweak

around with it again. Too bad there's not a "gliss" function that basically works like: "go from this note to that note and make

the gliss (portamento) the length of the first note" and be able to specify the slope.


BTW, conroller CC21 has nothing to do with portamento.
But it does have to do with lengthening the release, which in combination with eliminating the attack with the CC64, gives a very

nice predictable gliss using a chromatic series of very short notes. This admittedly is useful only in faster passages.

I think I saw somewhere in this forum another technique using a series of pitch wheel changes, in conjunction with a chromatic

series, but it didn't work for me either.

[Styxx]

Well, I tried them all and I'm stumped. I agree that a gliss parameter would be nice. Hmmmmmm.

[billp]

Styxx
I put a midi file (http://www.broadviewnet.net/wylbur/Gliss.mid) up on my site that uses CC64 with and without CC21 on a chromatic series. Load this into your sequencer/scoring program and see if it works. Try it with Violins 1 Sus+Short.

[Slandrom]

Originally Posted by Slandrom

Just saw it is on the Kontakt also, but that way I suppose it will be "on" for that instrument the whole piece.

Björn


No, like all controls on the Kontakt player, the length control only effects all samples if they're all set to the same midi channel. You can have 8 instruments loaded in the 8 slots of a single player, and each instrument can have a different "length" value. As well as different Var. 1 & Var. 2 values.

JT

Jeff,

That was not what I meant. If you set a length control value for an instrument (channel) in the kontakt player only, this value will affect that instrument through the whole piece. To take full advantage of the feature it should be assigned as an midi info in your score or sequencer.

Björn