Is 1 Gig of RAM good Enough for Gold?

[Evan Gamble]

Is 1 Gig of RAM good Enough for East West Symphonic Orchstra Gold Edition?

[handz]

Hi,
It is enough for 8 fully loaded instances (after you play a little with DFD settings )
I now getting another gig - because it gives you more freedom....

But, If Ihave to answer if it is enough - Yes...you can do much with it.

[Evan Gamble]

Thanks! One more question though, would 8 instances equal 64 instruments?

[handz]

Yes, but you also could use kontakt sampler...which have 16 channels...

[Evan Gamble]

Thanks alot.

[EricRichmond]

I used to have 1 gig of RAM. It wasn't really enough to load a serious 'template'.

I then went to 1.5 gigs.... I wish I had gone to 2 gigs, thats seems to be the sweet spot. I feel like I'm about 300 megs away from having everything I'd really want (about 1.7 gigs of QLSO loaded into RAM). I'm going to begin experimenting by shortening up the preload buffer size to see if I can squeeze more in.

-Eric

[gugliel]

Thanks Eric -- I was just debating between adding 512 and adding 1 gig. Your comment helps.

[Jared Hudson]

I have a question. 2GB is the norm, but would 3GB be any better, or would your PCI bus not be enough with that much loaded and give you dropouts?

[Haydn]

2 GB is fine. The Kompakt player can only use 2 GB of memory.

[Alan Russell]

Evan,

When it comes to sampling, base it out at 2 Gigs or max out your motherboard. It makes a hell of a difference to your CPU and Hard Drives.

Alan Russell

[Jared Hudson]

Evan,

When it comes to sampling, base it out at 2 Gigs or max out your motherboard. It makes a hell of a difference to your CPU and Hard Drives.

Alan Russell
Would that change if you were running new SATA 2 technology and a AMD 64 3500+? Would 3GB be good then?

[Nick Batzdorf]

As far as I know, the maximum is about a gig of sample starts in a 2GB machine. 3GB doesn't help.

But just to be annoying, I would have answered the original question differently: no, 1GB isn't enough. Neither is 2GB, and neither is two machines with 2GB in each. ;) You may be able to run all the programs you need to play a piece in 1GB, but you're going to be loading and unloading articulations all the time.

Also, I don't know anyone who's loading eight Kompakt players in one machine. A G5 with 4GB (which translates to about 2.5GB of sample starts) might be able to do that, but certainly no Windows machine I've ever heard of.

Next year, maybe.

[js33]

I'm waiting for the 64bit machines to mature before getting anything new. The G5 and AMD are getting there. The Mac offers the ability to have 8 gigs of ram and 16 when the 2 gig ram sticks become available. On the PC side you have a lot of cheap AMD 64 systems but most of the motherboards don't allow for more than 2 gigs which makes having a 64 bit CPU pointless. On the Intel side they will be releasing their version of x86-64 which is basically a P4 or Xeon with AMD's 64 bit extensions.

Once inexpensive motherboards are available on the PC side with 8 to 16 gig ram capability then it will may be time to buy a new system. If you are Mac based the G5 provides that ability now although the OS isn't completly 64 bit yet.

Cheers,
JS

[Nick Batzdorf]

You can install 8GB in a G5, but each program is limited to 4GB in Panther (the latest OS X version). That translates to about 3GB of samples inside a digital audio sequencer.

You could conceivably run multiple AU hosts, each loaded to the gills, and address them by IAC, but to me that seems like a house of cards waiting to come down.

Also, 8GB of RAM is over $1300. Ouch.

[handz]

Also, I don't know anyone who's loading eight Kompakt players in one machine.

Now you know...all my pieces are done with the same 8 Gold instances template. It isn´t problem, you must play a bit with DFD....

[Nick Batzdorf]

Eight?! What programs? What machine? Seriously, I'd like to hear the list.

I load 2-1/2 to 3 Kontakts (40 - 48 instruments) in a BYC VisionDAW, which is as tweaked as any machine can be to EWQLSO. And we've all played with DFD.

I don't see how it could add up, given that you can only load just over 1GB before every note crackles. Nobody has been able to run 64 instruments, as far as I know.

[brilohead]

As far as I know, the maximum is about a gig of sample starts in a 2GB machine. 3GB doesn't help.

But just to be annoying, I would have answered the original question differently: no, 1GB isn't enough. Neither is 2GB, and neither is two machines with 2GB in each. ;) You may be able to run all the programs you need to play a piece in 1GB, but you're going to be loading and unloading articulations all the time.

Also, I don't know anyone who's loading eight Kompakt players in one machine. A G5 with 4GB (which translates to about 2.5GB of sample starts) might be able to do that, but certainly no Windows machine I've ever heard of.

Next year, maybe.

Actually 3gb is helpfull since you can use 1gb for OS and 2gb for your applications. Otherwise your OS and apps are sharing 3gb. I have 4gb using winxp and have figured a work around to use 3gb for apps (using fx-teleport or v-stack) and 1gb for kernel. Nick and Doug use machines with 3gb for the reasons stated above. Like most I can't wait until true 64bit machines and software comes out!

Cheers,

Christiaan

[handz]

Eight?! What programs? What machine? Seriously, I'd like to hear the list.

I load 2-1/2 to 3 Kontakts (40 - 48 instruments) in a BYC VisionDAW, which is as tweaked as any machine can be to EWQLSO. And we've all played with DFD.

I don't see how it could add up, given that you can only load just over 1GB before every note crackles. Nobody has been able to run 64 instruments, as far as I know.


Of course, 8! - I have P4 2,6 + 1GIG dual RAM, Western Digital 8MB cache HDD. What instruments? Normaly - for each string section Emoton, stac, tremolo, trill, +Large pizz, Brass- solo FH -sus+stac, TB - sus + stac, Trumpet sus + stac, 6fh sus mod, rips, shakes... 4tp sus, stac, 4Tbmod +stac, winds - all with legato, stac, trills. + percussions...it is all ariable - depends on type of piece.
When you loading last 3 instances - you get "low memory" warning - but you could continue... and its OK.

I send you template if you want and also post my DFD settings.

[Nick Batzdorf]

That's odd. My VisionDAW has 2GB and it's a 2.8, and it certainly can't run any eight instances. What sequencer do you use? V-Stack?

I'd love to check out your template. Thanks. Recording@earthlink.net.

[Jared Hudson]

8 Instances...I know exactly what is going on. When you load in small patches like trills, rips, percussion...of course it's easy. If you're loading in the Keyswitch patches, or much larger articulations......3 is the maximum, which leads me to believe the people with 8 instances aren't composing as well as they could ;) . Where's your MAIN articulations? We don't need preset trills and rips every second....we need melodic lines!

I run a 2500+ Barton with 1.5GB, and I have yet to exceed 3 instances...EVER. I also run Sonar 3 Producer with a Western Digital 8MB cache hardrive dedicated to samples.

[Alan Russell]

Jared,

3GB would be fine with that processor..24 bit samples will require loads of ram and a fast CPU. I wouldn't dare to short change a motherboard with 1 GB at this point. When I see a CPU churning 4% at max, things are going very smooth at this end. As far as AMD goes, I'm A PIV guy. 2 Gigs is fine per machine.

Alan Russell

[Alan Russell]

I have a question. 2GB is the norm, but would 3GB be any better, or would your PCI bus not be enough with that much loaded and give you dropouts?


3 gb compared to 2gb will depend on how many voices (24 bit in particular)are getting churned simultaneously. Heavy orchestral scores require such a need. Lighter Jazz to Pop scoring ensembles wouldn't show an improvment with 3gb over 2gb of ram IMHO.

Alan Russell

[MikeGraybill]

1 gig is not enough. 2 is not enough, and I am still only using Silver (even as tempting as that GroupBuy is...) The only reason I didn't jump on that is that I know I am not adding any more machines into my setup anytime too soon. My rig leans towards the Giga side of things, so I only had my main DAW to run Atmospheres and Silvers and whatnot.

I am a template freak, and I know I'm not the only one. I use several incarnations depending on the project needs - and trying to use 7 kompakt instances filled, even with an upgrade to 2 gigs, and using smaller trill patches and the like, caused clicks and buffer problems to the point that the projects became unlistenable after they grow to a length beyond a minute or so.

When ya get warnings regarding "dropouts and other artifacts" at the loading screen, well - they mean it! So I just picked the things I felt I'd be using most, and still switch out all the time, but settled in to a happy place where I do not recieve that msg anymore, and still have at least a *little* headroom for VSTs and the like.

I'm using an AMD 2600+ barton, 2gigs ram, and samples across 3 drives for my main. If I can't even load all that I'd like to use out of Silver in that configuration, I don't see how anyone could run a template of Gold with anything less?

It is definitely worth adding the extra ram, just don't expect to be able to load all the articulations the library has available. As a side note - don't add cheap ram either! I could go on with stories supporting that, but this isn't the thread. Just "stick" (get it? ;) ) with bigger name-brands and you should be okay, ie - Corsair/Kingston/PNY etc. There really is a substantial difference.

Best - mike graybill

[chriscaouette]

Of course, 8! - I have P4 2,6 + 1GIG dual RAM, Western Digital 8MB cache HDD. What instruments? Normaly - for each string section Emoton, stac, tremolo, trill, +Large pizz, Brass- solo FH -sus+stac, TB - sus + stac, Trumpet sus + stac, 6fh sus mod, rips, shakes... 4tp sus, stac, 4Tbmod +stac, winds - all with legato, stac, trills. + percussions...it is all ariable - depends on type of piece.
When you loading last 3 instances - you get "low memory" warning - but you could continue... and its OK.

I send you template if you want and also post my DFD settings.

Send it here. I am always looking for ideas.
Chris
dragonwind@mac.com

[Brady]

1GB is a little tight with Gold. But you can get by with bouncing/freezing.

[moosethree]

I have a pc with 1 gig
2nd pc with 756mb
3rd pc with 512

is that enough for gold?: the 2nd and 3rd pc would be running free standing Kontakt or Gold in Chainer.

[XanaX]

...and also post my DFD settings.

Please do.

[handz]

8 Instances...I know exactly what is going on. When you load in small patches like trills, rips, percussion...of course it's easy. If you're loading in the Keyswitch patches, or much larger articulations......3 is the maximum, which leads me to believe the people with 8 instances aren't composing as well as they could ;) . Where's your MAIN articulations? We don't need preset trills and rips every second....we need melodic lines!

I run a 2500+ Barton with 1.5GB, and I have yet to exceed 3 instances...EVER. I also run Sonar 3 Producer with a Western Digital 8MB cache hardrive dedicated to samples.

Sorry I never written that I compose with only "patches like trills, rips, percussion.." it is an "extra" of course I have in my template emoton/mod sus patches for all instruments - and when needed more versions for strings also legato patches for solo brass and some solo winds. I never using KS when it is not needed, I like to have 1channel per articulation. But I written this before I could load 8 instances with those and many special articulations/percussions...

I will post my latest template at night...

[nexus]

Please do.

I'll second that. I'd like to know as I have fooled around with DFD settings for hours! :D

[Evan Gamble]

well I just bought a Kingston 1 gig stick to go with my Kingston 512, so now I have 1.5, which is as much as I can afford. Everything seems to be working GREAT, but when I create a 5th MIDI track Gold just seems to stop playing...I don't know why..it isn't an audio dropout out..I push the key on the screen and nothing happens, I play my keyboard and Gold doesn't read it. Non of my recorded tracks play back, I don't know what to do. Any thoughts? Oh I'm pretty sure my tracks are all set up right, maybe someone couls give me some template Ideas, that might help. Thanks for all the responses so far though :) !

[Nick Batzdorf]

Okay, this is ludicrous. I want to know why Handz is getting about twice as much mileage out of his 1GB machine as everyone else in the world is getting out of 2GB machines.

Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[handz]

Sorry guys, my iNET connection at home is crapy, so I´ll try to post template later with the DFD settings.

H
EH did I said that I have only Soundblaster LIVE + KX Drivers? :)

[Evan Gamble]

I think someone is stalling (maybe exaggerated a little bit before) No I'm just kidding Handz. ;)

[nexus]

Sorry guys, my iNET connection at home is crapy, so I´ll try to post template later with the DFD settings.

H
EH did I said that I have only Soundblaster LIVE + KX Drivers? :)


:D That will be good as I have 'only' 1 gig and cannot afford more for a while :(


I remember when 1 gig was HUGE, just four years ago....

[handz]

So, Here we go;)

My template
http://www.galerieskacelik.cz/obrazky/Template.gif

My DFD settings

http://www.galerieskacelik.cz/obrazky/DFD.gif

All is working. I swear.

[lulu]

So, Here we go;)

My template
http://www.galerieskacelik.cz/obrazky/Template.gif

My DFD settings

http://www.galerieskacelik.cz/obrazky/DFD.gif

All is working. I swear.

great!!

can you tell us your system specifications, please??
including the details of your ram, such as brand and speed.

your system looks great :) congrats

[Evan Gamble]

Does 32 polyphony ever get in the way?

[Nick Batzdorf]

Yup, Handz, you're absolutely right. It's the lower preload and voice buffer that allows you to load so much.

Now I have to see how well it works at that setting...

[Nick Batzdorf]

As I thought, you don't get very far at that setting before it starts making horrible noises. Back to the recommended 192/384/256 setting.

But it's interesting that you can load that much.

[handz]

As I thought, you don't get very far at that setting before it starts making horrible noises. Back to the recommended 192/384/256 setting.

But it's interesting that you can load that much.

As I said -noises dissapear after samples being loaded into RAM and if some not they are not in the mix, its not problem.......

Oh My.....How you could work with such big buffers???!?

[Scott Cairns]

Do you find your CPU working hard with such small buffers?

[handz]

lulu: RAM - Two 512 dual 400mhz Kingstone modules
CPU: P4 hyperthreading (but turned off) 2,6
HDD: WD 120 8MB cache
MB: MSI (sorry but dont remember type right now)



Scott: Not att all...I find it more comfortable than working with 2 or 3 instances;)

[Evan Gamble]

Ok ..I'm starting to get a real headach with all these settings...I've looked in the manual and there isn't a thing about DFD settings..can someone walk me through. I don't even know what a buffer size is. My specs are...

AMD Athlon XP 2000+
1.67 GHz,
1.50 GB RAM
40 GB Hard Drive
SONAR 2
East west Symphonic Orchestra Gold
Audiophille 24/96 recording card

I've tried all these things everyone is suggesting, but If I could just get my settings set to where I know they aren't screwing things up, maybe I could get down to what I should be doing...composing. I'm not even sure if my recording card is set right I've got with a DMA Buffer size (don't know what the hell that is) at Latency 256 samples and a codec sample rate at 44,100.

I NEED HELP....ALL THESE MANUALS SUCK! :mad:

[Nick Batzdorf]

Handz, those big buffers are the precise settings East West recommends! I work with fewer instruments loaded into the machine with no clicks or horrendous, potentially speaker-damaging digital noises.

That template of yours didn't start working after the instruments loaded. It makes sense that it wouldn't, because the voice buffer fills up and then you have less memory for it to work in.

And I'm not bouncing the audio to disk in the PC, just using the PC as an external sound module, so it has to sound right. But even if the noises didn't make it onto the bounced audio, no way would I want to live with a system that sounds broken all the time.

Sure I'd like to get more out of all my machines, but I'm content to load about 40 instruments into this one and have the system work perfectly.

[handz]

Nick Batzdorf: These are not precise settings these are the settings for people who can afford it. If you on 3 instances - that means you can´t afford to have such big buffers. I dont know what anyone could do with about 24 articulations... I really never care much about what developers recommends, it´s better do somethnïng that works for me.
As I said - clicks dissapear (on my PC) after samples being played several times.

my template is working perfectly, and I never bounce anything, all plays real- time.

[Nick Batzdorf]

Handz, I run EWQLSO in Kontakt, and I run three instances of Kontakt and between 40 and 48 programs on that machine. And believe me, I'm not so rich that I can afford not to maximize each machine! :)

[nexus]

Nick Batzdorf: These are not precise settings these are the settings for people who can afford it. If you on 3 instances - that means you can´t afford to have such big buffers. I dont know what anyone could do with about 24 articulations... I really never care much about what developers recommends, it´s better do somethnïng that works for me.
As I said - clicks dissapear (on my PC) after samples being played several times.

my template is working perfectly, and I never bounce anything, all plays real- time.

handz, thanks for the settings! I am trying them tomarrow.

I am wondering what you mean of the samples by 'playing them several times'. Does this mean you have to have several notes of each instrument part go by and then there are no clicks?

Also, your composition "1st Movement" had a pretty dense orchestration happening much of the time. Are these the DFD settings for that?

Did you have to do any bouncing or freezing of tracks for that piece or was it able to playback all at once?

Thanks for any info. :)

[handz]

Nick: Okay...this is what I talking about - most people can´t afford to have best machine...so it´s necesary tweak settings....
I never said that my ultra low buffers are only solution - but I think that if you set your buffs from current 192/384/256 to 100/284/256 it will few extra instruments still without any clicks...

nexus: Yes I mean exactly that. Maybe sometimes clicks appears, but only sometimes

In 1st Movement I used exactly that template, with same DFD settings - No bouncing, no freezing - all played at once.

Try it - if it will not work for you - you might try slightly bigger buffers...

hope it helps;)

[KevinH]

Hello

Anybody using Kontakt and Giga 2.5 on the same machine at the same time? I'm thinking of loading Kontakt on my Giga machine to utilize the extra RAM that's not allocated to Gigastudio. I have a P4 3.0 ghz w/ 2 gig of RAM

Kevin

[nexus]

Nick: Okay...this is what I talking about - most people can´t afford to have best machine...so it´s necesary tweak settings....
I never said that my ultra low buffers are only solution - but I think that if you set your buffs from current 192/384/256 to 100/284/256 it will few extra instruments still without any clicks...

nexus: Yes I mean exactly that. Maybe sometimes clicks appears, but only sometimes

In 1st Movement I used exactly that template, with same DFD settings - No bouncing, no freezing - all played at once.

Try it - if it will not work for you - you might try slightly bigger buffers...

hope it helps;)


Okay, I've been experimenting with the above settings and you know what...they work!

There is an occasional bit of 'odd behaviour' with this method. It is not a problem though because it goes away after you play your piece through once (at least on MY machine).

AMD XP3000+
1 gig Corsair RAM
80 gig 'audio drive' 7200rpm 8 meg buffer
120 gig system drive (partitioned)
Echo MIA card
Terratec EWX 24/96

NOT a real high performance rig by any means, yet this method works well---I'm going with it!

I've done 3 (and '1/2') instances of Kontakt 1.5.3 in my tests. I suspect I could go as high as 5. :)

[Evan Gamble]

All Right ....I just now bought my new hard drive specifically ment for my samples...Its a Maxtor 60 GB 7200 rpm...Now I believe I have one more final question related to setting up my system...once I have the drive installed will I just be able to drag and drop the sample into the new drive? or will i have to re-install it?

[nexus]

All Right ....I just now bought my new hard drive specifically ment for my samples...Its a Maxtor 60 GB 7200 rpm...Now I believe I have one more final question related to setting up my system...once I have the drive installed will I just be able to drag and drop the sample into the new drive? or will i have to re-install it?


You should be alright with that. Just remember to point the Kompakt at the drive/folder where you put the library and samples. This is done on the 'options' menu.

[lukpcn]

I know that 2GB can only be addressed by kompakt but if PC has 3GB of RAM does it mean that i can load 2GB of Gold samples and the rest 1GB is used by Cubase and windows itself ?
If Yes then 2GB won't let me load 2GB of samples because something around 450 MB will be posessed by win + cubase... am i Right or not... ?

[Evan Gamble]

Thanks Everyone!

[Nick Batzdorf]

Luk, I did some checking and asking around as a result of what I've read in this thread.

The news is the same as always: there's no point in adding a third gig of RAM, because you can't load much more than around a GB into Kont/Kompakt. 2GB is the right amount.

[lukpcn]

Luk, I did some checking and asking around as a result of what I've read in this thread.

The news is the same as always: there's no point in adding a third gig of RAM, because you can't load much more than around a GB into Kont/Kompakt. 2GB is the right amount.

So kompakt can load only 1GB of samples ?

[Scott Cairns]

Luk, I did some checking and asking around as a result of what I've read in this thread.

The news is the same as always: there's no point in adding a third gig of RAM, because you can't load much more than around a GB into Kont/Kompakt. 2GB is the right amount.Actually, thats not my understanding. (I could be wrong)

Windows 32bit can access 2gb in kernel mode and 2gb in application mode. Idont pretend to know what parts of windows (if any) run in kernel mode but I always thought that 2.5gb would be a good amount of ram;

2gb for sequencer/samples
512mb for low level stuff, hopefully portions of the O.S, some drivers etc.

At least this way (in theory) you should have a pure 2gb of ram devoted toward audio.

Edit: I've just read a few tech (geek) articles that say Windows starts by looking at your maximum physical memory (up to 4gb) and uses the top of that range first (without touching the 2gb of user-mode memory) for debugging and memory mapped devices (video cards, pci etc.) So having over 2gb definetely is an advantage.

Edit again: There's always the 3GB switch that you can apply to XP too (3gb for app-mode, 1gb for kernel) so again, even if your sequencer/samplers are maxed out on a 2GB thread the other memory can be put to good use.

[Veron]

Evan,

When it comes to sampling, base it out at 2 Gigs or max out your motherboard. It makes a hell of a difference to your CPU and Hard Drives.

Alan Russell
Thought this post was interesting . I didnt know adding more
RAM would do somthing good for the CPU and Hard Drives.
Does this mean adding more RAM , would make the system go
easy on the CPU and Hard Drives ? (Sorry if my english is bad...)
I have 712MB in my Power Mac G4 1GHz Dual , but my CPU is
suffering a little .
(BTW, I have a 7200rpm 8MB cache HDD from Seagate ,for the Samples)
Would adding more RAM do good for the CPU and Hard Drives ?
And what should I do to the DFD settings,
to make the system go more easy on my CPU .
My settings are ,
preload buffer : 192kb
voice buffer : 384kb
reserved voices : 248

[handz]

Veron: "My settings are ,
preload buffer : 192kb
voice buffer : 384kb"


Try to half both those numbers;)

[Nick Batzdorf]

Scott, I haven't heard of a person on the planet who's loading 2GB into Kont/Kompakt. I'll rush out and put another gig in my VisionDAW if you can show me someone who is doing that (on a P4/XP machine - you can load about 3GB on a Mac G5).

Luc, it's actually a little more than 1GB, but that's roughly the limit.

[Scott Cairns]

Nick, Im not talking about only a Kompakt memory thread. The sequencer will have one, plus Kompakt, plus other VSTs, your O.S, your teleported instruments etc, etc.

Even if Komptakt maxed out at 1gb (I actually thought it was 2gb) you have plenty of other things to take advantage of extra memory.

This is what Im talking about when I say it is worth installing more than 2gb of ram.

To answer Luk's question; "I know that 2GB can only be addressed by kompakt but if PC has 3GB of RAM does it mean that i can load 2GB of Gold samples and the rest 1GB is used by Cubase and windows itself ?
If Yes then 2GB won't let me load 2GB of samples because something around 450 MB will be posessed by win + cubase... am i Right or not... ?"
The answer is yes, more than 2gb of ram is worth it!

[Nick Batzdorf]

I'll preface this by admitting that I'm talking about my ~~~, because I know very little about Windows. Believe me, I'd be happy if someone can prove me wrong.

What I do know is that on Macs, Kontakt runs inside the memory space that belongs to the host (whether it's a sequencer or a host like V-Stack). According to what I see in the Task Manager, it's the same on XP. It's the host's memory use that increases when you load more instruments, and as the voice buffer fills up when you play.

So you still have plenty of RAM left over in a 2GB machine to run anything else you want.

Now, what just occurred to me is that maybe you can run two instances of V-Stack and get around the limit. You can run multiple stand-alone Kontakts, but they can't all see different MIDI ports (which is the reason you need V-Stack in the first place); maybe V-Stack can do that.

Now wouldn't that be cool. Then you really could make use of more RAM...

[Scott Cairns]

Hi Nick, I have a project running now...

You're right in that a Kompakt/Kontakt thread actually opens up as a part of the sequencer thread. In my case, Cubase. (Sorry, I thought I remembered seeing kompakt run its own memory thread.)

I know for a fact that it can handle more than 1gb of ram as I exceed this every day. (probably the 2gb limit we were talking about)

So the theory still stands in that you can throw 2gb of ram at your sequencer's memory thread and use other portions of ram for debugging, o.s, executives, memory resident hardware etc.

Im soon to build a Xeon DAW that will come equipped with 3gb of ram, im still of the belief that all the ram will be put to good use.

Oh, and yes, you can get around the memory limit with progs like Vstack, FX teleport etc.

[Nick Batzdorf]

I exceed 1GB too, but not by very much before it starts clicking and making god-awful noises.

[Veron]

Veron: "My settings are ,
preload buffer : 192kb
voice buffer : 384kb"


Try to half both those numbers;)

Thanks for your advice. I`ll try it right away! :)

[handz]

hmm I have amother problem - i bought another 1GiG of RAM and When start Gigastudio and loading samples, somwhere between 48 -52% of used memory, when I want to load more samples, GS start messaging me with Errors or my PC restart.....and thats hurt :-/ . Anyone have a Clue?

[lukpcn]

hmm I have amother problem - i bought another 1GiG of RAM and When start Gigastudio and loading samples, somwhere between 48 -52% of used memory, when I want to load more samples, GS start messaging me with Errors or my PC restart.....and thats hurt :-/ . Anyone have a Clue?

Hmmm maybe the RAM is broken :(

[handz]

don´t think so, in control pannel and other aps it shows 2GiGs, and all is working faster now. Also its a Transcend with Lifetime warranty so... hmmm...its really bad. I think it have something to do with GS (3) because I could load GOLD and other Vsts after that +/- 50% in GS

[Nick Batzdorf]

Okay Scott, I tried loading two V-Stacks, Cubase SXs, or a combination thereof and it doesn't work even if the second one is renamed. You also can't load a stand-alone Kontakt if the others are running.

It looks to me like they're sharing something, most likely VST plug-ins but possibly something else. Anyone have any ideas?

As it is, she don't work.

[Scott Cairns]

Nick, there is a thread here somewhere about a guy who overcame the memory limit with Vstack and I think Logic....

I did a quick search and cant find it, but I thought it was in the EW forum.

You could also try applying the 3gb switch trick, details on that are here too.

[Evan Gamble]

Sorry I need some help...AGAIN... :o
When I'm playing sustained samples sometimes after around 5 seconds of it playing parts of the chord or all of it will stop playing. I figured this was a polyphony problem so i upped it but it still occurs...any suggestions?
Thanks ahead of time!
-Evan

[Evan Gamble]

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