Can someone please recommend another sampler?

[Steelhed]

I\'ve had it with this buggy finicky peice of ****! I am tired of reloading my system just to use it. I don\'t mean to be crass, but I know there has to be something more stable than this..

[Simon Ravn]

GS hardly ever crashes here. I can sit a whole day composing without any crash. The only thing that I can do to make it crash seems to be by using a lot of release trigger instruments. If I stress the system and add VOTA for example, I can get the dreaded MSG32.exe crash.

[Steelhed]

Well, what happened was, I just got through creating a multi-instrument sample, and darn good one too, and Giga crashed..I thought, \"No problem\", I\'ll just check everything restart, go to restart,computer starts up but Giga locks up my whole system..In other words, I am going to have to reload my system, as I tried everything, but whatever it corrupted, is stuck in my system..I thought I got rid of every registry key associated with Giga, but even after reinstalling Giga 5 times..No Go.. SO, I am done, I wasted $300 and ton\'s of time learning it..And now I am completely done with Gigasampler, Tascam products.. Good thing I didn\'t waste any money on buying any gigs huh? The bummer part is, I spent alot of time working around all the bugs, learning the program, and creating some really awesome gigs, and now I have to start over...I\'m going to give Halion another chance I guess, unless someone can think of a more competent product..I am WIDE open for any suggestions, as I would rather not waste any more time or money...Thanks in advance..

[Simon Ravn]

I have experienced the dark side of GSEdit too - like others, after getting stuck in the middle of writing a big .GIG to disc, after I rebooted Windows didn\'t work. Tascam should really take a deep look into what must be some very weird disk-writing routines they use in GSEdit! This is unacceptable.

[Steelhed]

I am also considering the EXS24 sampler, anyone know if you can export to .wav with that sampler? It does have an instrument editor as well, and recieved a 9 outta 10 on a review site. I didn\'t even see Giga\'s name in those reviews..HOw bout Kontact? can anyone give me the pro\'s and con\'s of these samplers? PLease, I\'d like to get started again.. And is there any money in making your own samples in other formats? I have a good library of some very nice .gigs that really are distinct and I spent alot of time with them..It\'s a total shame I have to start over, I just don\'t want to make the same mistake again.. I need suggestions please...Also, can you export to Giga format with EXS24?

[Steelhed]

Nevermind guy\'s..I think I am convinced that the EXS24 is the superior sampler out of all the reviews I looked at.. Nothing even came close to EXS24 on all the review sites I checked out..And they were unbiased reviews, I made sure of that..The one interesting thing was, out of all the searching and unbiased reviews on soft samplers, Giga never once factored into the reviews, This makes me feel better as I know I am headed in the right direction..Thanks guy\'s and good luck to you..I\'ll be sure to come back in a couple of months and give you my pro\'s and con\'s on the EXS24 sampler..Take care..Oh, BTW, if anyone is interested, I have my copy of Gigasampler 1.6 for sale for $50.. My email address is deion92@hotmail.com..This is a legitimate copy with the purchased CDkey..I\'ll even include all my samples..Be sure to make reference to Gigasampler as some of my email goes directly to my junk folder...

[Bill]

1.6? That\'s how many years old?

Happy trails. Don\'t forget to buy a MAC for EXS24.

[Christo7]

Yeah, thats correct, Emagic was purchased by Apple and they are NOT going to support Windows any longer. Sad!

[Steelhed]

You didn\'t think I as going to give Tascam anymore money on the faith that the product is damn near unusable did you? Gigasampler works ok for a player, good luck making your own samples with it without nightmares... I guess I lucked out and they made Logic Audio and EXS24 for PC already..Whew! Then I\'d be hating life having to accept a half finished product Huh?

[Steelhed]

I hate being wrong! Well, so far the EXS24 sucks crack...And Kontakt is definitley no good, with it\'s enormous latency... It just seems software samplers are not an exact science I guess. Looks like I am stuck with Gigasampler, cause so far when it runs its the best, except for time-stretching and pitch bending, but there are third party software out there to do this..I have not gone back to try Halion, which I think uses disk streaming like Giga, becuase looking at their forums, even though it seems to have gotten alot better since release, has it\'s share of problems..It\'s like, do I wanna trade my set of problems for a whole new set of problems..The software industry is such an imperfect industry..Oh well, I\'ll just have to grin and bear it until something better comes along..And as far as Apple buying Emagic, What a feeble attempt to corner a market..LoL Makes me laugh, don\'t ya think they should have bought them before they made the prog for PC? I never did like Meat Jobs, I mean Steve Jobs..

[Jake Johnson]

I\'ve never created a huge sample set in Giga, but I\'ve edited quite a bit and never had a crash. I always follow the old Windows rule: Save often.

With the Giga editor, I imagine that principle would be particularly important, since saving after every few edits would mean saving a few megabytes, while saving at the end of many edits could mean trying to save hundreds of megabytes.

Can the developers of the piano libraries weigh in here? (They may have the largest sample sets.) Is crashing in the Giga editor a problem for them?

[Bill]

So…

Why don’t you tell us about your computer, your OS, your sound card and what kind of music you make. We’ll spout off free advice until you’re up and running.

[KingIdiot]

stellhed, you\'ve prolly got a corrupt gig, anx QS is screwedup trying to add it to the database. Try deleting any *.gig files in the \"temp\" directory. That might help.

There\'s a way to initialize the QS database, but I forget how.

Also, fecking upgrade you whiner! Its like being in a time warp with peeps like you images/icons/smile.gif

[Steelhed]

I did try that,, cause I thought it was the gig I was working on..No go..I went and edited the registry keys, didn\'t work, I then re-installed the Soundblaster dll fix, didn\'t work, I then really searched the registry out again, after trying all these other samplers, and found one reference to giga, and BAM! I was able to re-install. I was getting so good with the GSedit, and it was a big disappointment, but, I think I will be able to re-install without reinstalling windows now..But, I gotta tell ya, It\'s a brand new learning curve anytime you switch samplers!.LoL They are not all alike I can tell you that, and I spent soo much time getting around the finicky nature of giga, and learning GSedit, that I truly didn\'t want to start over again ya know what I mean?..Anyway, all working now, so my copy is no longer for sale..LoL I am actually running giga on a slower computer than before with less problems believe it or not.. PIII 600MHz/256PC-133/Win98SE/Echo Gina Digital I/O card,Good hard Drive though... I\'m gonna post one of my multi-instrument samples pretty soon for everyone to play with, You\'ll be able to play Drums/Bass/Guitar full band with just your ten fingers...It\'s pretty cool, I\'m gonna do one for Jazz, Metal, Rock, Blues, and Classical, they\'re gonna be good..It\'s funny, I play Guitar,Bass,Keyboards and Drums Myself, But I am haveing so much fun playing them on Keyboard..LoL..Thanks for your replies..

[Nigel W]

OK, time to own up- I don\'t have Giga or a PC.

So what were your problems with Logic & EXS24?

The newest version 5.5 (free upgrade for Mac AND PC), with the EXS24mk2 sampler, does all that Giga does -correct me if I\'m wrong- with no limit on Polyphony except your CPU, in 24 bit, a very easy to use sample editor, GIGA import and IMHO the best (MIDI) sequencer there is.And under OS10, latency is LOW and stability is 100%.

If I had GIGA, I wouldn\'t be in a hurry to switch, and I\'m not knocking Giga. But it\'s not the only player in this field.

Why didn\'t EXS24 work for you? images/icons/confused.gif

Nigel

[nexus]

As someone who has recently been struggling with Giga myself, I now have the system up and running and it WORKS GREAT!!! But I can\'t tell you how frustrating it was to get here. I finally wound up using my Terratec EWX-24/96 just to run Giga and then installed an Echo Mia for everything else and this works great. I installed the WDM driver for the Terratec which is very multiclient with GSIF when running SONAR. I have also been doing alot of instrument building in the editor these past months and have NEVER had a crash, but just in case I make regular back-ups of my registry, usually before an editing session, and the posted suggestion here about saving periodically when editing is VERY good advice. I do see a potential problem when editing very large gigs, and that is one of available system RAM. How much do you have installed? I have 256 megs and would not attempt something like a Grand Piano unless I had 512 megs or more. I have not upgraded to more memory as I only use Giga to cover a few parts. Also, it seems you are using Gigasampler, not GIGASTUDIO. Gigasampler\'s editor is very buggy compared to the new new version.

[Kevin Moreland]

>I always follow the old Windows rule:
>Save often.

Words of wisdom there...

>Can the developers of the piano libraries weigh
>in here? (They may have the largest sample
>sets.) Is crashing in the Giga editor a problem
>for them?

It is a problem when working on large sample sets, but the only thing you can do about it is saving often. Never been able to track down the exact source of the crashes in the editor - think it is a swap file issue...and to further add to the frustration, it will sometimes happen when saving your work!

While working in the editor, I copy the .gig file with Windows explorer to another HD after each major series of edits for safety.

Highly recommend using Drive Image or similar to restore your OS. Have no idea why this happens, but every once in a while, the editor crashes and completely hoses everything. Just do a restore with Drive Image or Ghost and you are back up and running in 10 minutes.

Peace, Kev

[stevefu]

The crash I\'m most familiar with occurs when I drag and drop a sample onto the velocity dimension section. I\'ve found that I can prevent the crash by making sure the .gig isn\'t loaded in GS, which I do by pressing the GS Reset button.