View Full Version : Is GOS 2 still on the cards?
Max67
01-27-2005, 09:02 PM
Garry,
Just wanted to know whether GOS II is still on the cards for development/release?
In particular for Logic (Audio Units which may includes Mac version of Maestro or the new morphing technology) ??
Any news/update on this please?
Regards, Max.
Garritan
01-27-2005, 09:43 PM
Garry,
Just wanted to know whether GOS II is still on the cards for development/release?
In particular for Logic (Audio Units which may includes Mac version of Maestro or the new morphing technology) ??
Any news/update on this please?
Regards, Max.
Yes,
GOS2 is still in the cards:
http://www.garritan.com/images/GOS2-cards.gif
One of the reasons we held off was because of Kontakt2. There are new things we would like to implement now made possibly by Kontakt2. We are still exploring GigaStudio, EXS and Halion as well.
Gary Garritan
Max67
01-27-2005, 09:59 PM
Now that image you attached is too impressive!!
Don't you ever sleep Gary? I wasn't expecting any response till tomorrow. Its midday here so it must be late over at your end.... Get some sleep fella!!
Thanks for your reply.... Still looking forward to GOS II !!
Best regards,
Max.
SeanHannifin
01-27-2005, 10:05 PM
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Yes,
GOS2 is still in the cards:
One of the reasons we held off was because of Kontakt2. There are new things we would like to implement now made possibly by Kontakt2. We are still exploring GigaStudio, EXS and Halion as well.
Gary Garritan
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Definetly explore the GS3 - I don't know what new functionalities Kontakt2 will have, but to date GS3 is the one for large scale work.
I hope we won't have to wait too long to see what is in store with GOS2. :)
chriscaouette
01-28-2005, 03:14 AM
Yes,
One of the reasons we held off was because of Kontakt2. There are new things we would like to implement now made possibly by Kontakt2. We are still exploring GigaStudio, EXS and Halion as well.
Gary Garritan
I was discussing doing programming for the EXS version but after seeing the news about Kontakt2 Gary and I both agreed to wait and see what Apple does with development. As much of a huge Logic fan I am I can't imagin someone paying several hundred dollars for GOS support because of it being tied to the EXS format. With the release of Redmatica's editor for EXS things just got better at least.
Gary has mentioned that there are features missing from EXS that he needs. So far I find that anything I can do in Kontakt I can do in EXS as far as functionality. Already have I changed some of the GOS1 sounds to not need the midi tool. Kontakt2 with its dual processor fixes means that there will be little need to have to use an EXS format and non L7 users will finally have access to convolution reverb built in.
When and if the time comes for EXS I will gladly lend a hand if needed.
Chris
Hi all,
I am very interested in GOS 2 and as I mentioned here on the forum before, I do hope GOS 2 will be released for Gigastudio.
Honestly I doubt it a bit cos its pretty obvious where Gary is tending to. All products released since GOS are based on NI players. Personally I haven't had problems with NI (Iīm an a Mac) but have 2 dedicated GS machines and as I do all the sequencing and stuff on my Mac, I wouldn't want to run much apps and players beside Logic. On the other hand, I donīt want to abandon one GS machine for the NI stuff. So itīs buy a new computer or let it run along GS.
No doubt I will purchase GOS 2 because I simply love my GOS. I just hope Gary will consider bringing GOS 2 for GS.
EXS would be nice too but I see Chris's point here.
Well, I guess only time will tell.
Best
Holger
FredProgGH
01-28-2005, 02:16 PM
Hi all,
I am very interested in GOS 2 and as I mentioned here on the forum before, I do hope GOS 2 will be released for Gigastudio.
Honestly I doubt it a bit cos its pretty obvious where Gary is tending to. All products released since GOS are based on NI players. Personally I haven't had problems with NI (Iīm an a Mac) but have 2 dedicated GS machines and as I do all the sequencing and stuff on my Mac, I wouldn't want to run much apps and players beside Logic. On the other hand, I donīt want to abandon one GS machine for the NI stuff. So itīs buy a new computer or let it run along GS.
No doubt I will purchase GOS 2 because I simply love my GOS. I just hope Gary will consider bringing GOS 2 for GS.
EXS would be nice too but I see Chris's point here.
Well, I guess only time will tell.
Best
Holger
Well, I don't run a Mac but other than that I'm in the same boat and I heartily second this. Unless the use of Kompakt II just allows something AMAZING to happen that the lib doesn't work without.
Jeannot Welter
01-29-2005, 10:33 PM
Any suggestions for new features in GOS2?
JW.
FredProgGH
01-30-2005, 12:57 AM
Any suggestions for new features in GOS2?
JW.
I'd like to have velocity (or something) have more control over attack/bowing. I feel like whatever fast bows I'm using (say, the marcatos) I get a lovely up down sound but even playing at an appropriate tempo they are always swelling into a note after I want them to be there. It's the most "synthy" aspect of the whole library. I want a situation where I can go between slow and very aggresive bows while I'm playing detache lines. I feel like I often get more the phrasing I'm looking for out of the AGG patches in the cellos and basses. Also, an ALT EXP version of the Grand Sustains that doesn't sound chipmunky in the high registers. At that point the library would be essentially perfect!! :D
(BTW, from what I can tell GOS alternating bows are just the best out there.)
Kanjika
01-30-2005, 01:02 AM
I just use the sautille patches for short bows, and the marcatos for longer ones.
FredProgGH
01-30-2005, 01:56 AM
I just use the sautille patches for short bows, and the marcatos for longer ones.
But then you are limited to short note durations. Plus, you have to set up seperate channels. We need sharp attacks for long sustaining notes.
But then you are limited to short note durations. Plus, you have to set up seperate channels. We need sharp attacks for long sustaining notes.
Separate channels? See, now that is where Gigastudio comes in - patch changes as you go! Can't abide Kontakt because of that...
FredProgGH
01-30-2005, 03:31 AM
Separate channels? See, now that is where Gigastudio comes in - patch changes as you go! Can't abide Kontakt because of that...
That's true. I know GS3 can do it but I haven't actually got to the point that I've done patch changes on a single channle yet.
That's true. I know GS3 can do it but I haven't actually got to the point that I've done patch changes on a single channle yet.
I know many people seem to work just fine without patch changes (otherwise Kontakt would have tanked long ago, heh), but I find it hard to see how one can really get by without it when doing large scale orchestral work. Lets not even talk about GOS2 (since we don't know what that will consist of anyhow!), but even the original GOS with its plethora of articulations... 1st violins alone can fill 16 channels in a snap. I just glanced at a piece I'm working on - the part for trumpet I just wrote has four patch changes per bar in the last few bars, and that is more the norm than it is anything extraordinary.
Kontakt is a nice little program, its DSD function is very promising - but it is lacking in certain areas, at least for the type of thing I do.
Also GS3, is way ahead in terms of built in reverbs - Gigapulse is amazing, but even the NFX reverb is extremely useable - much better than many third party offerings that you would have to pay extra for.
I also find Kontakt lacks the stability of GS (GS, stability? Sounds like an oxymoron I know, but once you get it working it works quite solidly ;) ) in big things.
Well, those are some of my views regarding large scale orchestral sampling based on my personal experience.
Jeannot Welter
01-30-2005, 01:53 PM
GOS2 will have "integrated instruments" that will allow you to key switch between (almost) every available long or short bow articulation. You will be able to load the 5 string sections into 5 MIDI channels.
There will also be material that has previously not been released from different mics and mic positions.
JW.
DPDAN
01-30-2005, 06:30 PM
Separate channels? See, now that is where Gigastudio comes in - patch changes as you go! Can't abide Kontakt because of that...
I would kill to know how to do that too. I am now up to about 10 channels for 1st strings alone so I could definately use the patch change way of doing things.
I use DP on a Mac with GS3 Orchestra on a separate PC DOH' sorry.
JC, would you mind briefing me/us on how to set up the patch change here?
TIA
DPDAN
I would kill to know how to do that too. I am now up to about 10 channels for 1st strings alone so I could definately use the patch change way of doing things.
I use DP on a Mac with GS3 Orchestra on a separate PC DOH' sorry.
JC, would you mind briefing me/us on how to set up the patch change here?
TIA
DPDAN
I am not familiar with DP, I work entirely on PC, but I can tell you this - you don't have to do anything special in GS3 itself, just make sure that all your sounds are loaded. You make the patch changes in your notation program or sequencer. I work out of Finale, so it is extremely easy to do this - I just save a template of all the patch changes as text expressions, and then click them in as needed. I am quite sure that Sonar and other sequencers allow you to click in patch changes as well, but you will have to refer to your help files on how to do that as I've never needed it.
I hope this has been helpful.
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