RealGuitar Downloads Available at SOL

[dougrogers]

You need to check out this Virtual Instrument!

Watch the short videos to get a feel for the product then download a fully working version.

All of the links are here -

BS-388

[Yves]

Realguitar is a true inovation!

finally a "smart" midi engine that is transparent to the user!

I use this plug in intensively!!

well done!

Yves

[Blackster]

Hi Doug,

I am a guitar-player myself and I listened to the demos. They sound nice. The duett is very sweet.

Greeting,

Blackster

[dougrogers]

Hi Doug,

I am a guitar-player myself and I listened to the demos. They sound nice. The duett is very sweet.

Greeting,

Blackster

Download the fully working demo, I think you'll be very impressed. Many have tried to pull this off but I think these guys got it right.

- Doug

[P de Caumette]

Download the fully working demo, I think you'll be very impressed. Many have tried to pull this off but I think these guys got it right.
- Doug

I can tell you one thing: the funk guitar demo is totally unrealistic...

[Chadwick]

Doug, there's a small prob with the links to the video demos:

http://www..com/http://www.musiclab.com/downloads/video_demos/RealGuitar_Bass_Chord_Demo.avi

If I use only the musiclab section of the URL, they download fine.

[Herman Witkam]

I agree with Patrick. The funk demo lacks realism. The duet lacks some dynamics. The slides in the blues demo doesn't sound like a guitar at all. It even brings up the association with general midi for me.

[Robert Kooijman]

Agree that slides based on traditional pitchbending often give an instant GM feel, no matter how exquisite samples you use.

Haven't tried them yet, but maybe Ueberschall's "liquid" products using melodyne technology might finally do the trick. Without decent real time formant corrected pitch shifting it seems virtually impossible to get things right using samples only.

Still, RealGuitar can give IMO nice results relatively quickly.

[midphase]

With all due respect to Doug and whom are certainly on my top list of great developers and who have in the past posted some stunning demos for their products...

I'm sorry but this "RealGuitar" is not realistic at all to my ears and I would at the very least advise you guys to pull the demos off the site and hire some composers to create better ones that will actually help your sales.

IMHO, even the now ancient Hans Zimmer Guitars demos blow these ones away (not to even mention the Horizon Classical Guitar demos).

If this product is as revolutionary as you say, these demos certainly don't show it, ending up sounding rather fake and extremely stiff.

Sorry to be blunt, I generally like all of the stuff on your site but this one I have to really disagree on when it comes to realism.

[Hardy Heern]

With all due respect to Doug and whom are certainly on my top list of great developers and who have in the past posted some stunning demos for their products...

I'm sorry but this "RealGuitar" is not realistic at all to my ears and I would at the very least advise you guys to pull the demos off the site and hire some composers to create better ones that will actually help your sales.

IMHO, even the now ancient Hans Zimmer Guitars demos blow these ones away (not to even mention the Horizon Classical Guitar demos).

If this product is as revolutionary as you say, these demos certainly don't show it, ending up sounding rather fake and extremely stiff.

Sorry to be blunt, I generally like all of the stuff on your site but this one I have to really disagree on when it comes to realism.

I'm sorry middlephrase, but I beg to differ. Remember you can tweak the sounds in a piano roll if you want to....unlike Steinberg's virtual guitarist. Yeah, I know it's not perfect....but bloody hell what do you want? It would surely suit most (non guitar playing folk) in a mix...at least!

What guitar players (REALLY) need to remember is that people like me maybe don't play the guitar but we have ears and a lifetime's (I'm 60yrs!....match that!) listening experience...I'm not easily fooled and I think this piece of software is superb for what it does....it doesn't deserve to be demeaned....there is nothing that can match it.

Hans Zimmer's guitars are just samples....they've probably been tweaked to hell to sound good. Realguitar gets you to the foot of the mountains real quick so the tweaking will be minimised. Don't let me hear anything about learning to play a real guitar either....at my age it's just b******s. (IMvHO)

I'm so sorry to disagree.....there were similar opinions with Synful's violin....I just don't get it......

Frank

[Chadwick]

I'm on Frank's side here. When I first saw those video demos I was surprised at how much the player was able to do with just two hands. I don't know of any other guitar sample set up that gives you the same kind of flexibility without requiring a lot of time inside your sequencer's editor pages.

[P de Caumette]

I thought the Synful violin sounded amazing. Not so with the 1st demo posted here. To tell you the truth, I stopped listening after demo #1.

The question is: can it fool me into thinking it is a guitar?

Answer: not in a million years, not even after 4 beers and a fire cracker :D

Is it because of the demo or because of the limitations of the software?

Don't know....

[robin123]

With all due respect to Doug and whom are certainly on my top list of great developers and who have in the past posted some stunning demos for their products...

I'm sorry but this "RealGuitar" is not realistic at all to my ears and I would at the very least advise you guys to pull the demos off the site and hire some composers to create better ones that will actually help your sales.

IMHO, even the now ancient Hans Zimmer Guitars demos blow these ones away (not to even mention the Horizon Classical Guitar demos).

If this product is as revolutionary as you say, these demos certainly don't show it, ending up sounding rather fake and extremely stiff.

Sorry to be blunt, I generally like all of the stuff on your site but this one I have to really disagree on when it comes to realism.

How about the orchestral libraries???

Do they sound real to you!!!!

The real thing is that you go as real as you can go with the tools available to you.

[Nick Batzdorf]

I can testify that Real Guitar is capable of sounding totally real. I haven't listened to those demos yet, but it's a very well-kept secret.

Funk, eh? So they have electric now?

Okay, let me listen...

[josejherring]

I agree that the demos on the site don't do the product justice. But I did see the strumming video and that sounded pretty good. So its a 50/50. Is there a way to get better demos?


If I downloaded the full working demo version and could come up with something better would you consider putting it on your site? I heard something in the strumming video that could be promising. I'll give it a try.

I could do that in the next two weeks.

Cheers,


Jose

[josejherring]

How about the orchestral libraries???

Do they sound real to you!!!!

The real thing is that you go as real as you can go with the tools available to you.

I don't know but I've heard Holst the Planets many times live and on recordings and while I wouldn't say that the version is totally real. It sounded real enough to me. And I'm pretty picky. I played it for my wife and she's also a very well trained musician and her only comment was that it sounded "too perfect to be real players"!...Aaaa, I can live with that.

So, the bar has been set. Samples need to sound very, very good these days in order for people to buy into it. Developers can't just phone it in anymore. The stuff has to sound damn near perfect.

So sliding midi notes on a virtual guitar that sound like keyboard pitchbend slides, ain't gonna cut it.

Cheers,


Jose

[dougrogers]

I agree that the demos on the site don't do the product justice. But I did see the strumming video and that sounded pretty good. So its a 50/50. Is there a way to get better demos?


If I downloaded the full working demo version and could come up with something better would you consider putting it on your site? I heard something in the strumming video that could be promising. I'll give it a try.

I could do that in the next two weeks.

Cheers,


Jose

Sure, we asked the developers for more demos that show the capabilities of RealGuitar better, and I'm sure we'll hear some soon, and yes, we welcome any demos from users.

However, did you download the actual product to try it out? Not many products offer that opportunity. Do that and then give us your feedback.

- Doug

[midphase]

How about the orchestral libraries???

Do they sound real to you!!!!


Have you read my post? I said that I have been impressed by SOL products in the past and this has been due to their demos. Yes, some orchestral demos blow me away, but the ones that I heard for this guitar product make me absolutely not wanting it.

[Sergey_MusicLab]

However, did you download the actual product to try it out? Not many products offer that opportunity. Do that and then give us your feedback.

Doug, you are absolutely right!

The only way to wholly evaluate new approach realized in RealGuitar is to try it by yourself. Note that it is a virtual but musical instrument and the way it produces music depends on the way you play it.

RealGuitar is mainly developed as a unique performance tool allowing the keyboard player to perform guitar parts live on a standard MIDI keyboard easily emulating various guitar techniques not possible with a standard sampler.

If you are really curious about what RealGuitar is, better see the Video demos and download the fully functional Demo version.

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[robgb]

RealGuitar is an excellent VST that sounds great in the mix. The versitility of the plug is pretty awesome. I particularly love the doubling samples and the chorus effects. And the keyboard/key switching layout is very intuitive.

I've been a guitarist for many years and can tell you RealGuitar comes the closest I've yet seen to allowing you to get the feel of a real guitar. No guitar sample library will ever be perfect. Some of the samples in RealGuitar could be a tad richer -- but that's a VERY MINOR complaint. In the mix they sound excellent.

I recently did a review on my site. I now use this plug a lot for smaller parts, since I'm too lazy to drag out the mics and the guitar and have to deal with noise reduction.

[levi]

Yep, using RealGuitar all the time, and within a track, it sounds VERY realistic. With some effort and planning, a little patience, it can sound very realistic solo'd up as well. Folks, just take the time to work with it. I've fooled guitarists with it already, as well as some mix engineers. The demos do not do it justice, I agree, but take some time with it. It'll be pretty obvious that this as close as it comes (currently).

[FredProgGH]

The demos seem to go out of their way to feature the most unnatural aspects of a sampled guitar. It's crazy to expect too much realism from lead type playing. I just want good alternating strums in a bunch of chords for rhythm when I'm in too big a hurry (or there are too many dang changes) to do the real thing. Where are the strum demos??

[Journeyman]

I agree; I want to hear lots of strum demos that not only demonstrate varying rhythms, but varying voicings as well. I watched the strumming video and felt that some of the voicings got a bit low (range-wise) for my taste.

(As an aside; why anyone would do a demo of an acoustic guitar playing funk is totally beyond me.)

[FredProgGH]

I agree; I want to hear lots of strum demos that not only demonstrate varying rhythms, but varying voicings as well. I watched the strumming video and felt that some of the voicings got a bit low (range-wise) for my taste.

(As an aside; why anyone would do a demo of an acoustic guitar playing funk is totally beyond me.)

I couldn't get any of the video links to work. Are they fixed? time to try the link again I guess!

[FredProgGH]

Aha!! Did get the strum and bass/chord videos to work and NOW we're getting somewhere. The rhythm stuff sounds really really good, and seems very playable (once you figure out the chord system. Kinda reminded me of someone playing a Fun Machine :D).

I can see it totally fooling someone in a mix. I may have to get this. Just not for playing funk on. :p :D

[robgb]

Please pardon my poor playing, but here's an example of the strumming you can do. Look at the potential, not the performance.

http://www.digitaldivingboard.com/guitarstrum.mp3

[Herman Witkam]

Now having seen the video demos and having heard Rob's demo I'll have to revise my opinion. I can hear there's a lot of potential in this thing. The mp3 demos just didn't show that.

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Here you can find a number of demos made by RealGuitar users:

http://www.musiclab.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?t=637

Some are amateur of course but the variety of musical ideas realized with RealGuitar is very interesting.

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[Journeyman]

Until I have my new G5, I can't download the trial version yet. Can someone tell me how RealGuitar chooses what voicings to play? For instance, is there more than one way to voice an A chord, or does RealGuitar play only one type of voicing? This has been one of my criticisms of Virtual Guitarist.

[robgb]

Until I have my new G5, I can't download the trial version yet. Can someone tell me how RealGuitar chooses what voicings to play? For instance, is there more than one way to voice an A chord, or does RealGuitar play only one type of voicing? This has been one of my criticisms of Virtual Guitarist.

You can play chords several different ways, all the way up the neck.

[Journeyman]

Cool; thanks!

[dougrogers]

Here you can find a number of demos made by RealGuitar users:

http://www.musiclab.com/community/forum/viewtopic.php?t=637

Some are amateur of course but the variety of musical ideas realized with RealGuitar is very interesting.

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

It was be nice to hear some demos from the guitar experts around here, like Sharmy.

- Doug

[Journeyman]

Two more questions:

1) Do you have to use the built-in guitar sounds, or can the resulting midi be exported for use with another sound source?

2) Can the built in guitar sounds be edited at all? (I'm thinking release times and minor edits of that nature.)

Thanks!

[robgb]

Two more questions:

1) Do you have to use the built-in guitar sounds, or can the resulting midi be exported for use with another sound source?

2) Can the built in guitar sounds be edited at all? (I'm thinking release times and minor edits of that nature.)

Thanks!

1. You can export the midi file just as you would any midi file in your sequencing app. But because of the nature of the programming, I don't know how useful it would be with other sample sources.

2. The interface comes with a built in editor that allows you to adjust strum, release, string attack (or accent), EQ, etc. Not edits, necessarily, but adjustments.

And as you can tell by my playing, there is a bit of a learning curve, but better players than me will do wonders. Listen to some of the demos linked to above.

[Alan Russell]

Sure, we asked the developers for more demos that show the capabilities of RealGuitar better, and I'm sure we'll hear some soon, and yes, we welcome any demos from users.

However, did you download the actual product to try it out? Not many products offer that opportunity. Do that and then give us your feedback.

- Doug


Hi Doug,

I did download the product and played with it in Sonar..it was a treat...technolody is truly moving up here..

I didn't see auto strums in the demo (hold a chord down and it strums) - are there any?

Any Jazz guitars on the horizon?

Alan Russell

[robgb]

Strumming is manually controlled, which is what makes it work so well. YOU have control over the strumming. You can also adjust the number of strings that are played.

[Journeyman]

Thanks Rob. Can anyone attest to AU validation and stability within Logic 7.0.1?

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Hi Doug,

I didn't see auto strums in the demo (hold a chord down and it strums) - are there any?

Alan Russell

In the installation directory you can find the RG Pattern Demos folder with MIDI files showing the use of rhythm patterns with RealGuitar. Every MIDI file consists of two tracks - Chords and Patterns. Import any to your sequencer to play back. You can mute the Chords track and play your chords to RG while pattern track will perform strums/picks for you.

1250 rhythm patterns are included with RealGuitar MIDI Pattern Library

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Two more questions:

1) Do you have to use the built-in guitar sounds, or can the resulting midi be exported for use with another sound source?

2) Can the built in guitar sounds be edited at all? (I'm thinking release times and minor edits of that nature.)

Thanks!

1. MIDI export is not implemented because of two main reasons:
- RG MIDI engine uses a lot of MIDI channels (up to 64) to automatically produce various additional sounds (release/pick/body/fret noises, doubling, stereo, 12-string, muted, etc.).
- furthermore RG has Floating Fret Position feature that allows you to use 104 guitar sampled frets playing only 44 MIDI notes (E1-B4 range), so the internal note mapping and multi-channel layering architecture will make exported MIDI file fully unusable with any other sampler.

2. You can adjust release time, strum time (even in Solo mode), accent velocity threshold, number of alternating samples for repetitive notes (up to 11) , mix the volume of all additional sounds and noises used for producing guitar sound.

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[Journeyman]

Sounds great; can't wait to try it! Do I seem to recall correctly that there are also additional strum patterns that are downloadable from the web?

[robgb]

The pattern library is, I believe, a separate purchase. Personally, I prefer coming up with my own patterns, but that's me...

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Sounds great; can't wait to try it! Do I seem to recall correctly that there are also additional strum patterns that are downloadable from the web?

The complete RG MIDI Pattern Library is included with the RealGuitar boxed version.
Pattern Library features three basic guitar accompaniment techiques - strumming, picking/plucking, and bass and chord rhythm patterns.

Here is the detailed info:
http://www.musiclab.com/products/realgtr_patlib_info.htm

Here are audio samples (RealGuitar MIDI Pattern Library audio demos):
http://www.musiclab.com/downloads/listen/index.htm


Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[Polaris]

I can't help but add to the discussion. I own and use Real Guitar. I do play the guitar, but not nearly well enough to allow me to realize what this instrument allows. It's not meant for "Real" guitarists who possess the skill to do it yourself, Its meant for guys like me. We can hear the music, but the only way to get it out is via a plug in like this one. I strongly recommend non-guitarists (or those with limited skills) to try RealGuitar. I also feel that Virtual Guitarist Electric Edition is a piece of junk.
Sometimes you just have to let the music be what it is. Knowing that something was produced with a virtual insrument doesn't lessen the value if you like what you hear. Not everyone is a virtuoso - this IS a forum for Sample Libraries after all.

David
Polaris - New Age/Classical
Aardvark - High Energy Melodic Instrumental Rock
Both available at CDBaby.com

[robgb]

The complete RG MIDI Pattern Library is included with the RealGuitar boxed version. Good to know. Thanks, Sergey.

[Hardy Heern]

I can't help but add to the discussion. I own and use Real Guitar. I do play the guitar, but not nearly well enough to allow me to realize what this instrument allows. It's not meant for "Real" guitarists who possess the skill to do it yourself, Its meant for guys like me. We can hear the music, but the only way to get it out is via a plug in like this one. I strongly recommend non-guitarists (or those with limited skills) to try RealGuitar. I also feel that Virtual Guitarist Electric Edition is a piece of junk.
Sometimes you just have to let the music be what it is. Knowing that something was produced with a virtual insrument doesn't lessen the value if you like what you hear. Not everyone is a virtuoso - this IS a forum for Sample Libraries after all.

David
Polaris - New Age/Classical
Aardvark - High Energy Melodic Instrumental Rock
Both available at CDBaby.com

Well said David. The reason we're all here is that we love music and obviously can't play all the instruments (that goes for all you pros as well) which we enjoy listening to. Let's keep our feet on the ground. RealGuitar, orchestral samples....whatever....are just tools for all of us to realise our dreams. Of course it's not perfect but it comes damn close:)

Frank

[Sergey_MusicLab]

Well said David. The reason we're all here is that we love music and obviously can't play all the instruments (that goes for all you pros as well) which we enjoy listening to. Let's keep our feet on the ground. RealGuitar, orchestral samples....whatever....are just tools for all of us to realise our dreams. Of course it's not perfect but it comes damn close:)

Frank

Frank, you are absolutely right!

As to RealGuitar - that's not only guitar samples, but a 'smart' MIDI engine specially developed to help keyboardist to perform guitar music as close as possible.

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[SimuAndy]

I've ordered RealGuitar (through sounds online), and it will arrive Monday. :)

Is there control enough over fingering to do the alternate sounds for chords whose names I don't know but I abbreviate as:

E (base chord, standard fingering)
F#m* (no bar, just the Em pattern, with a finger on 3rd string 2nd fret for the 'a' tone)
G#m* (like F#m but up two frets)
A* (like E up 5 frets),

and so on up the scale?

[Sergey_MusicLab]

I've ordered RealGuitar (through sounds online), and it will arrive Monday. :)

Is there control enough over fingering to do the alternate sounds for chords whose names I don't know but I abbreviate as:

E (base chord, standard fingering)
F#m* (no bar, just the Em pattern, with a finger on 3rd string 2nd fret for the 'a' tone)
G#m* (like F#m but up two frets)
A* (like E up 5 frets),

and so on up the scale?

There are four position selections allowing to move the chords up along the fretboard.
Also you can get various fingerings for some chords (ma, 7, m7) in the same position when playing chords in one-finger or normal way. Ex. - you can play F#m7 as:
1) F#+E(down)+D#3(down) - 1-finger
2) F#+A (up) + E(up) - normal

Regards,
Sergey Egorov,
www.musiclab.com

[Journeyman]

SimuAndy,

I'd be interested in hearing your impressions of RealGuitar after you've used it a bit....

[Per K]

I messed around with the demo for a couple of weeks and finally bougth it yesterday.

I used it with a few amp-simulators and this is the result.

http://www.perkihlborg.com/mp3/temp/perkihlborg_beardboogie_demo.mp3

Sorry about the 112kbps mp3



PS I can´t play guitar at all...

[SimuAndy]

Per K: that demo sounded really good for a non-guitar player. heck, it sounded really good for a real guitar player, too. :)

Journeyman, me too. . . I wish it had arrived earlier this week, as I was home sick with the flu, but oh well. In my day job I am a computer game programmer, and this is a very crunch time for us, so I'm not sure how much music time I'll get. But we'll see.

[synthnut]

I do like what I hear from the demo's, but to be fair, they are NOT realistic sounding to my ear's.....So from a REALISTIC point of view, they do NOT do it for me ....From and entertaining , and ear candy point of view, I like what I'm hearing .....Again, this is not to say that the program can't be more realistic, I'm only giving my opinion from what I heard in the demo's.....Jim

[Journeyman]

Thus far, I'm afraid that I have to agree with synthnut. What I'm hearing just doesn't fool me into thinking I'm hearing a real guitarist. And I'm not using a guitarist's criteria, as I'm a keyboard player. The video demo sounded more real than any of the audio demos that I've heard thus far.

[SCARBEE]

I personally find Real guitar very interesting. It's a leap in the right direction.

I just downloaded it and look forward to check it out.

The guys at Musiclab are very nice indeed and reallt talented too.

[Chaim Goldman]

Yes, the programing is brilliant.

I'm getting this for 10 bucks at East West (points)

The strums however, are not real strums as it looks to me (and from what you see on the interface from the voice counts) they are put together from individual notes. BUT they sound GOOD anyway. Especially the slow strum.

But the slides (not the bends) sound less real.

Now I hope they started on an electric guitar version.

Thank You for making this product.