View Full Version : OK I now HAVE a midi and pedal!
matolen
03-25-2005, 12:47 PM
Yep, got an Oxygen 8 and a pedal which plugs into it. SO far in Cubase sx I can load up instruments and play from the keyboard. But what I want to do is this:
When i load up a midi with the instruments attached (strings) i want to be able to step on the pedal and get legato. so far when i step on the pedal it gets a little louder(?)
Stephanie Pray
03-25-2005, 12:53 PM
Congratulations on your new controller and pedal!! :) I think that you need to go into the "options" screen in GPO and change the pedal to (can't remember the exact wording...) no sustain/midi cc or midi control? That should help you get the legato to work. :)
matolen
03-25-2005, 04:13 PM
hmmm, some settings don't work at all--some get me sustained note after sustained note causing these clusters....what am I missing? I am so confused about this cc business.
mark
Stephanie Pray
03-25-2005, 04:55 PM
I'll try to help again, but may need to wait until I get home so that I can actually see what I'm talking about. You'll need to open an instance in GPO - not Cubase to make the changes. The screen that you'll be looking at is the one with the where you pick which instruments that you want - it has a piano roll at the bottom, and the knobs to change panning, volume etc. Below the window that shows which instrument you picked, there's a little button that says "options". Click on that and it will bring up a screen (I think that it's blue?) and there's a pull down that deals with the pedal toward the right-hand side, toward the top of all of the choices. Choose the one that says "no sustain, use as midi control". Hopefully, this makes sense to you - I'll check back later once I'm at home so that maybe I can describe it a little better than I just did by memory. :)
Stephanie Pray
03-25-2005, 06:59 PM
Ok, I'm home now so I looked again, and the option is no sustain/sustendo operation/midi controller. Good luck! :)
matolen
03-25-2005, 07:24 PM
thats what i have it set on, and i am not hearing any difference. Am i neglecting something? Am I not doing something?
Stephanie Pray
03-25-2005, 08:04 PM
Please forgive me for asking, but it the pedal plugged into the correct jack? Have you read the controller's instructions about any global settings that you may need to adjust? I'm running out of ideas...
matolen
03-25-2005, 08:31 PM
Maybe its something i am not doing in Cubase. If i load a sample from GOS, for instance, and step on the pedal, its all held notes creating a cluster. When I do violins lush in GPO and step on the pedal, it still sounds un-legato.
Obviously i am looking for something inbetween. I am not transmitting correctly the info to Cubase?
Stephanie Pray
03-25-2005, 08:49 PM
I just looked on the bottom of my pedal and noticed a switch. I don't know what it does. Does your pedal have a switch on it? Does it change when you move it over? I'm really sorry - I feel useless - I have no more ideas. I use Sonar 4P and am not familiar with Cubase. I hope that there's someone else here on the forum that can help you. If all else fails, I guess that you can try to ask Mr. Garritan himself. I'm Sorry :( Good Luck! :)
Richard N.
03-26-2005, 04:23 AM
Matolen,
I am not sure that it is clear what is happening, and what you are trying to achieve (perhaps it's my Saturday morning hangover :)).
With your current setup with GPO, when you press and release a note on your midi keyboard with the pedal pressed, does that note sustain until you release the foot pedal, or does it stop as soon as you release the note on your midi keyboard?
matolen
03-26-2005, 11:22 AM
thats right, it stops when i lift off the keys, even with the pedal still down.
mark
Richard N.
03-26-2005, 12:14 PM
thats right, it stops when i lift off the keys, even with the pedal still down.
mark
That's good!
GPO legato mode uses the pedal to make the transition from one note to the next smoother - i.e. legato. In legato mode, the pedal does not make the notes sustain after you have released the key on the midi keyboard.
You can use the pedal as a sustain pedal, by changing the settings you were previosuly guided about in the kontakt player, but in sustain mode the attacks of the notes are not affected by the pedal making the note transitions less smooth, and not a convincing legato.
matolen
03-26-2005, 12:28 PM
Ok, may sound stupid, but i don't care...
How does this work in a situation for playback?
Ex. If I have vst setup in cubase and assigned instruments, when recording playback for strings, etc. that i want for legato, will it reflect this wehn i step on the pedal or do I need to tell cubase more information? Or does it not work like that?
mark
Stephanie Pray
03-26-2005, 12:54 PM
Once you've recorded to midi - pressing the pedal when you want to, it should play back in Legato without having to step on the pedal again.
matolen
03-26-2005, 01:10 PM
BUt i am not playing. I am playing back a midi with VST, and its playing back automatically for recording. Does it respond to pedal then?
Here is a test, of what it sounds like, doesnt sound too legato to me.
http://www.musicv2.com/launch/mtlen
its the one called "test", its a snippet of the violin part from the star wars i am working on.
matolen
03-29-2005, 08:40 AM
any help please? I have Kontakt set right but it doesnt sound like I am getting smooth transitions...
thanks!
mark
Tom Hopkins
03-29-2005, 01:14 PM
Matolen,
Normally, this is something Gary would handle, but he's away in Europe. Private Message me and I'll see what I can do. I think this requires a phone call to make things clear.
Tom
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