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dcoscina
03-31-2005, 07:15 AM
Uh oh. Those clever guys at VSL have "brought it" with their new Opus 2 library. check out this link
http://www.vsl.co.at/english/pages/forum/start/login.htm
$500 ( :D )for this 9 gig library that includes samples from the Horizon series as well as the original VSL lib. Perfect price point too. It looks like it's somewhat of an upgrade for VSL as they indicate it works with Opus 1 but I can see many folks just buying this to round out their existing orchestral libs from other developers (like GPO or in my case, EWQLSO).
Of course, I'll still wait until the EWQLSO Pro upgrades come out first to get a better perspective on what lib will suit me better but it's great to have this in the running as an option eh? :cool:
Ned Bouhalassa
03-31-2005, 08:47 AM
Have you seen the price for the bundle (Opus 1 + 2) on timespace.com? They must have made a mistake... if not: WHAT A DEAL!
scottnorma
03-31-2005, 11:48 AM
OPUS 2 – ORCHESTRA
OPUS 2 expands the potential of OPUS 1 and the FIRST EDITION with additional articulations and further instruments. It also offers bonus files which include basic articulations of instruments taken from other Horizon Series titles, like Solo Strings, Epic Horns, French Oboe, or Woodwind Ensembles.
Strings
OPUS 2 offers the complete articulation package of Legato Runs (major, harmonic minor, chromatic and whole tone scales), Vienna’s legendary “Flautando Strings”, and the easy-to-use but highly effective “Fast Repetitions”. The strings package is rounded out with a basic set of solo string articulations featuring the most important playing techniques.
Woodwinds
Since Vienna’s woodwinds’ Performance Legato articulations are especially popular, OPUS 2 offers the complete Performance Legato articulations for bass clarinet and contrabassoon. As requested by many users, looped sustains for all woodwind instruments are provided. A basic set of the Horizon Series’ French Oboe as well as the flute and clarinet ensembles completes the woodwind group.
Brass
The brass section is enhanced through the inclusion of sordino and stopped playing techniques. Solo trumpet and trumpet ensembles also feature Performance Legato articulations. As a bonus, a basic set of the Horizon Series’ powerful Epic Horns is included.
Percussion
Apart from additional timpani articulations (tremolo and single note glissandos), the percussion family is stocked with marimba, vibraphone, cencerros, plate bells and waterphone.
Have you seen the price for the bundle (Opus 1 + 2) on timespace.com? They must have made a mistake... if not: WHAT A DEAL!
I don't think it is a mistake... those are british pounds after all! After the currency conversion it is only a little less than list price. Still worthwhile I guess, but you had gotten me excited with your statement. ;)
scottnorma
03-31-2005, 02:25 PM
It's $1295.00 US for the Opus1&2 bundle.
Ned Bouhalassa
03-31-2005, 02:27 PM
Oops! Thanks JC - I thought it was in euros... :o
$1295 for Horizon 1+2, so I wonder what will be the SISO price after that smart VSL move ;)
$1295 for Horizon 1+2, so I wonder what will be the SISO price after that smart VSL move ;)
Maybe SI has changed their minds, and they are the source of the new group buy that has been rumoured?
That would be a smart move - it is the only way they will be able to get me to redirect my money to them rather than VSL.. ;)
Oops! Thanks JC - I thought it was in euros... :o
If that had been the case, I would have just covered my eyes and maxed out my card to get it immediately. :D
scottnorma
03-31-2005, 04:01 PM
What's a "group buy"?
What's a "group buy"?
It is a special offer where if enough people sign up to buy the product (hence 'group buy'), there are incrementally heftier discounts. If enough people sign up (and they usually do) the discount goes up to 65%!
An impressive way for the cash strapped to get top libs, and for developpers to move hundereds of copies.
Herman Witkam
03-31-2005, 04:31 PM
Oops! Thanks JC - I thought it was in euros... :o
Still sounds like a good deal to me.
Who said group buy? :D
yeah, whose rumor is this?
Mention of this is can be read in the other thread about Opus 2 (move to next page of topics here). Who the group buy is by, or when it is occuring has not been specified.
I can only hope very soon, and for something very useful!
peter269
03-31-2005, 07:59 PM
Uh oh. Those clever guys at VSL have "brought it" with their new Opus 2 library. check out this link
http://www.vsl.co.at/english/pages/forum/start/login.htm
$500 ( :D )for this 9 gig library that includes samples from the Horizon series as well as the original VSL lib. Perfect price point too. It looks like it's somewhat of an upgrade for VSL as they indicate it works with Opus 1 but I can see many folks just buying this to round out their existing orchestral libs from other developers (like GPO or in my case, EWQLSO).
Of course, I'll still wait until the EWQLSO Pro upgrades come out first to get a better perspective on what lib will suit me better but it's great to have this in the running as an option eh? :cool:
The whole KH Concert Series right now is 180GB for $995. Brass are shipping in a few days, followed by the woodwinds in a few weeks. We're now working on new brass demos which will soon be posting. Hold your bucks for a few weeks and wait. You'll be glad you did.
BTW, in our new brass for Kontakt, we have repetition, legato and alternate WITHOUT a tool. You just load and play.
scottnorma
03-31-2005, 08:08 PM
BTW, in our new brass for Kontakt, we have repetition, legato and alternate WITHOUT a tool. You just load and play.
Is the same true for your concert strings and woodwinds?
We're now working on new brass demos which will soon be posting. Hold your bucks for a few weeks and wait. You'll be glad you did.
I'm sorry to say that Peter but streaming samples of KH Concert Strings at KH site are of very poor quality and the sound is not even close to impresive. Without the top quality demos, there's no point to wait at all (given the sound of any of SI examples).
Or am I wrong and there is just another place I should look for KH demos?
peter269
04-01-2005, 08:42 AM
Is the same true for your concert strings and woodwinds?
In Kontakt, yes. After the brass ships, we'll have a free update for the strings, and then the woodwinds will have the same feature.
peter269
04-01-2005, 08:47 AM
Or am I wrong and there is just another place I should look for KH demos?
Yes, you're wrong. Unlike some of our colleagues, we don't have unlimited funds. So our development efforts have been focused on getting out the library. Despite the "poor" demos, Kirk's library for strings is being used on network TV shows and many other projects.
But if the money is just burning a hole in your pocket...
Marcussen
04-01-2005, 10:12 AM
Peter - the legato you have... how exactly does it work (sound)? $1000 for an entire orchestra? Sounds pretty sweet.
Alan Lastufka
04-01-2005, 10:22 AM
$1000 for an entire orchestra? Sounds pretty sweet.
It is..... :D
scottnorma
04-01-2005, 11:15 AM
Yes, you're wrong. Unlike some of our colleagues, we don't have unlimited funds. So our development efforts have been focused on getting out the library. Despite the "poor" demos, Kirk's library for strings is being used on network TV shows and many other projects.
But if the money is just burning a hole in your pocket...
Peter, I don't want to offend, but the KH string demos that I've heard on the KH site are truly awful. I listened to several, the Bruch and a few others, and I don't know why they sound like they do, but it is not in any way mitigated by the fact that they're "being used on network TV and many other projects". Is that supposed to impress us somehow, whereby we tell ourselves, "Well, if it's good enough for those TV guys, then it's good enough for me."?
If these demos reflect the true sound of this library, I can't see why anyone would make a purchase. And if they don't reflect the true sound of the library, I don't know why they would've been posted in the first place. You mentioned that your company may be cash-strapped, but I don't know why that would somehow affect the quality of the demos themselves.
Might there be some sort of technical problem that is causing this? I would hope so. Did someone inadvertently set the streaming compression settings way too high? I don't know. But something somewhere is wrong.
And if your response to Abel is indicative of what one may routinely expect from your customer service, well, that's not a good sign either.
Cheers.
Peter, I don't want to offend, but the KH string demos that I've heard on the KH site are truly awful. I listened to several, the Bruch and a few others, and I don't know why they sound like they do, but it is not in any way mitigated by the fact that they're "being used on network TV and many other projects". Is that supposed to impress us somehow, whereby we tell ourselves, "Well, if it's good enough for those TV guys, then it's good enough for me."?
If these demos reflect the true sound of this library, I can't see why anyone would make a purchase. And if they don't reflect the true sound of the library, I don't know why they would've been posted in the first place. You mentioned that your company may be cash-strapped, but I don't know why that would somehow affect the quality of the demos themselves.
Might there be some sort of technical problem that is causing this? I would hope so. Did someone inadvertently set the streaming compression settings way too high? I don't know. But something somewhere is wrong.
And if your response to Abel is indicative of what one may routinely expect from your customer service, well, that's not a good sign either.
Cheers.
I can understand that Peter has to defend his library, but I have to agree (and have said so before) that the demos are not in any way helpful - unless the intention is to frighten people off.
And indeed, telling those who inquire that they are 'wrong' and insinuating that WE don't know what we are talking about is not the best approach.
Now the Kirk Hunter solo strings are some of the nicest out there - and I have heard the work to prove it. I cannot say the same for these ensembles. Demos frequently do not tell the whole story, but I don't have the opportunity to try them for myself and cannot just spend the money to get the lib as an 'experiment'. There are other secure purchases that have claims on my funds..
I look forward to hearing the demos for the new sections, and hope that they will 'wow' me. I also hope that some new evidence will surface in favour of the concert strings.
What else can I say? :(
Unlike some of our colleagues, we don't have unlimited funds. So our development efforts have been focused on getting out the library.
I cannot imagine how funds can be an obstacle in this case.
Just make an announcement at NS that you are looking for a composer who would make a couple of great sounding demos and who'd be willing to accept the KH library as payment and I'm sure you'll get many submissions for the job. :cool:
Jordo
04-01-2005, 07:06 PM
I hadn't heard the KH demos, but after listening to the streaming samples I would have to agree that they do not exactly inspire me to purchase the library.
Marcussen
04-02-2005, 04:01 AM
Peter....
How does the legato work?
jimyehoo
04-02-2005, 12:22 PM
KH bundle?! when? upgrade path from KH concert string user?
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