Vertikal - The Piano Alternative

[Worra]

http://www.sampletekk.com/prodimages/240Vertikal.gif

SampleTekks Vertikal - The Piano Alternative

There are so many sampled pianos on the market today and you as a musician have the benefit to be able to choose from the multitude of different brands and sounds.
Most, or nearly all, of the sampled pianos are great, wonderful grand pianos like Steinway's, Bosendorfer and other truly amazing instruments.
But, sometimes you need something different.
Let's face it, you wouldn't choose Pavarotti to sing rock and roll, would you?
Also, you probably wouldn't let Robert Plant sing "La Boheme"…..
Mind you, it probably would sound great in a way, but it's probably not what you're after!
Most of the sampled pianos on the market today are "Pavarotti's", but if you want a "Plant"-piano you don't have that many chooses, until now!

The Vertikal is a upright piano recorded and designed to do the job when you need that little extra "umpf" in your songs. It can be rock, blues, jazz, gospel or anything that needs the extra attitude. Shortly, when you need something not that "grand".

The Vertikal has the normal SampleTekk standard, that means 16 recorded velocity samples pedal up, 16 pedal down and 16 releasesamples. Also included are inpulses of pedal down and instrument resonance to use with convoluting reverb as Gigapulse or Kontakt 2

Vertikal will ship June the 15:th!

Here are som mp3 demos:

Vertikal Demo 1 (http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalPopDemoGS3_1.mp3)
Vertikal Demo 2 (http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalPopDemoGS3_2.mp3)
Vertikal Jazz Demo 1 (http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_1.mp3)
Vertikal Jazz Demo 2 (Shine - anyone...???) (http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_2.mp3)
Vertikal Jazz Demo 3 (http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_3.mp3)
Vertikal Stride (http://www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_4.mp3)

[mariobolo]

I'm having trouble going trough the pre order;
after i give my address information i get the usual explorer message that the page cannot be displayed; maybe it'smy system (and i'll try this evening with another pc), but if you could have a short check....

thankyou in advance

mario

[Worra]

I'm having trouble going trough the pre order;
after i give my address information i get the usual explorer message that the page cannot be displayed; maybe it'smy system (and i'll try this evening with another pc), but if you could have a short check....

thankyou in advance

mario

Hi.

Several orders have come through so it seems like it's working. Maybe you can try a different PC, or try using Paypal.
Let me know how things work out!

[mariobolo]

I've tried also from another pc connected to another server but i got the message from 2checkout.com saying that incorected parameters where received and i can't go on and give my billing information. Credit card is the only option for me...

I'll try again this evening hoping to be still one of the lucky first hundred....

Thankyou anyway

Mario

[tombo]

I just ordered, and it worked fine. Looking forward to getting this one!

Tom

[belbin]

I'm having the same problem! Help Worra! I really want the best deal!!!

Belbin

[Worra]

I've tried also from another pc connected to another server but i got the message from 2checkout.com saying that incorected parameters where received and i can't go on and give my billing information. Credit card is the only option for me...

I'll try again this evening hoping to be still one of the lucky first hundred....

Thankyou anyway

Mario

Well, if we'll pass the 100 limit, I'll see to it that you'll get it for the $50 anyway.

[Worra]

I'm having the same problem! Help Worra! I really want the best deal!!!

Belbin

Belbin and Mario, can you try PayPal?

[belbin]

I don't even know what paypal is!!! Googling now....

[mariobolo]

Ok i chose paypal and it worked (belbin, it was the first time for me too but i was able to choose paypal and pay anyway with my credit card...) but....

among the thousand tries i did to work it out i ordered the wrong format!!! i ordered gs3 but i need the kontatkt2 format!!

worra, can you please check it out for me??

Thankyou,

mario rimoldi

[Worra]

http://www.sampletekk.com/prodimages/240Vertikal.gif

SampleTekks Vertikal - The Piano Alternative

There are so many sampled pianos on the market today and you as a musician have the benefit to be able to choose from the multitude of different brands and sounds.
Most, or nearly all, of the sampled pianos are great, wonderful grand pianos like Steinway's, Bosendorfer and other truly amazing instruments.
But, sometimes you need something different.
Let's face it, you wouldn't choose Pavarotti to sing rock and roll, would you?
Also, you probably wouldn't let Robert Plant sing "La Boheme"…..
Mind you, it probably would sound great in a way, but it's probably not what you're after!
Most of the sampled pianos on the market today are "Pavarotti's", but if you want a "Plant"-piano you don't have that many chooses, until now!

The Vertikal is a upright piano recorded and designed to do the job when you need that little extra "umpf" in your songs. It can be rock, blues, jazz, gospel or anything that needs the extra attitude. Shortly, when you need something not that "grand".

The Vertikal has the normal SampleTekk standard, that means 16 recorded velocity samples pedal up, 16 pedal down and 16 releasesamples. Also included are inpulses of pedal down and instrument resonance to use with convoluting reverb as Gigapulse or Kontakt 2


Here are som mp3 demos:

Vertikal Demo 1 (www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalPopDemoGS3_1.mp3)
Vertikal Demo 2 (www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalPopDemoGS3_2.mp3)
Vertikal Jazz Demo 1 (www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_1.mp3)
Vertikal Jazz Demo 2 (Shine - anyone...???) (www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_2.mp3)
Vertikal Jazz Demo 3 (www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_3.mp3)
Vertikal Stride (www.sampletekk.com/proddemos/vertikal/VertikalJazzDemoGS3_4.mp3)

To preorder or for more info, go to SampleTekk (www.sampletekk.com)

[Garritan]

Worra,

Sounds like a winner. An upright piano is quite different and is useful in a variety of applications. I'll be ordering one myself.

Congratulations and good luck with the launch of the Vertikal.

Gary Garritan

[lumpyhed]

Done my good fellow. :D
*gives doggy a chewy stick*

[Worra]

Done my good fellow. :D
*gives doggy a chewy stick*

Arf, arf......:|:

[Raindog]

There can´t be many 50$ pianos left as I ordered mine this evening. Adds another character to your beautiful (Tom Waits) Rain Piano.
I love the first demo on your website, which shows that I´m a romantik soul. Sometimes some imperfection makes a piano better. Some songs just don´t sound right with a grand piano but need an upright. Well done
Regards
Raindog

[Worra]

There can´t be many 50$ pianos left as I ordered mine this evening. Adds another character to your beautiful (Tom Waits) Rain Piano.
I love the first demo on your website, which shows that I´m a romantik soul. Sometimes some imperfection makes a piano better. Some songs just don´t sound right with a grand piano but need an upright. Well done
Regards
Raindog

Hi!
Hope you will like it! Still some $50 pianos left.... but they seem to go fast...:D

[Worra]

There seems to be some problem with the Credit Card paying option.
Sometimes it works, but sometime you get a "page can't be displayed" errpr during checkout.
The PayPal paying option works great, but if you are experience this problem when using Credit Card as paying option, please contact me at per@sampletekk.com and I'll see to it that none misses his/hers $50 Vertikal.
The error has been reported to te company that handles the card transactions

[tgfoo]

50 bucks for this thing? And I thought some of the group buys were steals. This will go very nicely with my ever expanding collection of piano libraries. :D

[janila]

50 bucks for this thing? And I thought some of the group buys were steals. This will go very nicely with my ever expanding collection of piano libraries. :DSame here. I promised to myself that I wouldn't buy more piano libraries but here I go again. :o

Per, how much space does the 24 bit Kontakt version need? Does the library include ready K2 programs with the scripts and everything or is it a do-it-yourself kit as long as someone makes the programs available?

[Worra]

50 bucks for this thing? And I thought some of the group buys were steals. This will go very nicely with my ever expanding collection of piano libraries. :D

Yeah, but remember that's there's only a certain number of these......

[Worra]

Same here. I promised to myself that I wouldn't buy more piano libraries but here I go again. :o

Per, how much space does the 24 bit Kontakt version need? Does the library include ready K2 programs with the scripts and everything or is it a do-it-yourself kit as long as someone makes the programs available?

The 24-bit versions are about 7Gb/perspective and will come with ready-to-play nki's

[Worra]

There seems to be some problem with the Credit Card paying option.
Sometimes it works, but sometime you get a "page can't be displayed" errpr during checkout.
The PayPal paying option works great, but if you are experience this problem when using Credit Card as paying option, please contact me at per@sampletekk.com and I'll see to it that none misses his/hers $50 Vertikal.
The error has been reported to te company that handles the card transactions

We hope that this are working now!
If you attempted to buy the Vertikal and wasn't successful. please try again.
Don't worry, you will get the "I'm among the first 100 customers"-price!

[tgfoo]

Yeah, but remember that's there's only a certain number of these......

I know, I already ordered my copy yesterday. :D Can't wait for it to get here.

[Deak]

I'm a sucker for these GREAT group buys. Now, all I need to do is get my laptops configured, buy the sampler software and off to the learning curve and the fun! Thanks for letting us new guys into the hobby! (Vintaudio, BelaD, GPO and now Sampletekk).

As a side note and answer to some of the latest questions on value of software, pricing and piracy - it is deals like this (nothing we are owed but are thankful for) that welcomes us casual hobbyists (albeit discerning listeners who want quality sounding instruments and samples) to the fun. Better to pay and get the support and pride of ownership than to use illegal stuff. Once I get everything going and have recovered from the steep price of Gigastudio and Kontakt, I can then look at the other wonderful software (Spectrasonics in particular). I have already spent a small mint on the hardware and now am getting close to the same on the software side.

So, great quality and great pricing - a sure buy. No difficult copy protection or dongles - a sure buy. Free updates and great support - sure buy. Great forum - sure buy. Great kudos to Garritan, BelaD and Spectrasonics for their great support. You've got mine!

Once again, thanks Sampletekk!

Peace to everyone and enjoy!

[Worra]

I'm a sucker for these GREAT group buys. Now, all I need to do is get my laptops configured, buy the sampler software and off to the learning curve and the fun! Thanks for letting us new guys into the hobby! (Vintaudio, BelaD, GPO and now Sampletekk).

As a side note and answer to some of the latest questions on value of software, pricing and piracy - it is deals like this (nothing we are owed but are thankful for) that welcomes us casual hobbyists (albeit discerning listeners who want quality sounding instruments and samples) to the fun. Better to pay and get the support and pride of ownership than to use illegal stuff. Once I get everything going and have recovered from the steep price of Gigastudio and Kontakt, I can then look at the other wonderful software (Spectrasonics in particular). I have already spent a small mint on the hardware and now am getting close to the same on the software side.

So, great quality and great pricing - a sure buy. No difficult copy protection or dongles - a sure buy. Free updates and great support - sure buy. Great forum - sure buy. Great kudos to Garritan, BelaD and Spectrasonics for their great support. You've got mine!

Once again, thanks Sampletekk!

Peace to everyone and enjoy!


Thank you!
Mind you, it's not really a groupbuy. In a groupbuy the price drops the more items that are sold.
The Vertikal is right now selling with a pre-release offer that gives the first 100 customers a chanse to buy the piano for $50 (MSRP $150), customers 101-200 gets it for $75 and then it's $100 until June the 15:th when the Vertikal ships.

Still 40 or so $50 pianos left.....:D

[metrobot]

yum! I just ordered mine for the special price. Thanks for making such a great instrument available at a nice intro price.

is it wrong of me if i start to like this piano better than my grand samples?? :|:

[Worra]

yum! I just ordered mine for the special price. Thanks for making such a great instrument available at a nice intro price.


Thanks! Think there's around 25 left now, check out the Vertikal Resource Page (http://www.sampletekk.com/vertresource.php) for the latest count!



is it wrong of me if i start to like this piano better than my grand samples?? :|:

Noooo........ I think I can forgive you this!

[hebjam]

How big is the 16 vs.24 bit Kontakt? I use Kontakt 1.53 , will it open?
Also I can use Giga 2 and convert in CDXtract (I think)
Would that be better?

[hebjam]

Actually I was able to download the Demo and convert in CDXtract to Kontakt
There was some strangeness though. Cant convert the No Pedal Down program. It makes CDXtract quit etc...
Is there a big quality diff between 16-24 bit?

[Theodor]

Is there a big quality diff between 16-24 bit?

Dynamic range ( more volume from top to zero ) and clarity . I am mixing 16 bit libraries with 24 bit and see no incompatibility or any obvious difference . Midi has only 127 increments so with both you will get the same volume i believe, just at the low end the 24-bit will sound better ( pppp range or so ).


Well, it's the same price so why not go 24 ? :)

[hebjam]

Worra, how was this dithered to 16 bit? My main consern is cpu /disk streaming load. My system isnt the fastest (G4-600).
Also , the Kontakt progs will open in earlier than K2 right?

[Worra]

How big is the 16 vs.24 bit Kontakt? I use Kontakt 1.53 , will it open?
Also I can use Giga 2 and convert in CDXtract (I think)
Would that be better?

The 24 bit version is 7Gb per perspective. There are two perspectives, so total size required on the harddisk is 14 Gb.
The 16 bit version is 4.7 Gb per perspective.
Vertikal comes in native Kontakt 1.5x format, so no n eed to convert.

[Worra]

Worra, how was this dithered to 16 bit? My main consern is cpu /disk streaming load. My system isnt the fastest (G4-600).
Also , the Kontakt progs will open in earlier than K2 right?

The original samples where recorded in 24 bit and dithert to 16 bit using Apogee tecnique. When you buy the Vertikal you will get both Kontakt 1.5X and Kontakt 2 versions. They are on the same disk. (And so are the HALion and EXS24 files!)

[hebjam]

Thanks Worra.
Final question! As always i try to think of the future, and though i use Kontakt now who knows about tomorrow?
If I get the Kontakt, I cannot covert from Kontakt to any other. If I get the Gs3 or 2 , I can convert this to anything else. More flexible!
My only concern is if there may be glitches in the conversion process to Kontakt, particularly from Gs3. If I got one of those and it didn't work out, could i possibly exchange or get the Kontakt program files from you?

[Worra]

Thanks Worra.
Final question! As always i try to think of the future, and though i use Kontakt now who knows about tomorrow?
If I get the Kontakt, I cannot covert from Kontakt to any other. If I get the Gs3 or 2 , I can convert this to anything else. More flexible!
My only concern is if there may be glitches in the conversion process to Kontakt, particularly from Gs3. If I got one of those and it didn't work out, could i possibly exchange or get the Kontakt program files from you?

If you buy Kontakt, HALion or EXS24, you get the same set of DVD's. Those come on a multiformat DVD that has Kontakt, Kontakt 2, HALion 2, HALion 3 and EXS24 format on them, so between those, you don't need any crossgrades.
GS3 and GS2 can pretty easily be converted to Kontakt, HALion or EXS24. Free update files will be available from our site.
When it come to converting to Giga it gets a bit complicated. The normal thing would be to give you a art file, import all samples in a new giga instrument, applying the art file and that would be it. Unfortunatly the art files doesn't work that well with instruments this size, but Tascam knows about this and maybe will come up with a solution in the future. I gladly give you an art file, but the problem is that the samples are mapped wrong, so you have many hours of remapping in front of you before things work, but it can be done!
And, as I said, all crossgrade files are free.

[hebjam]

Thanks 4 the help. I will order by tonite, probably 16 bit. I have tried to do a batch convert in Peak and dithering doesnt seem to be possible so...

Oh, by the way , I have noticed from the demo that from D#3 it gets suddenly louder. This my be a side effect of the GS3 to Kontakt conversion though...

Thanks again! I have to say your pianos are first class!

[Worra]

Thanks 4 the help. I will order by tonite, probably 16 bit. I have tried to do a batch convert in Peak and dithering doesnt seem to be possible so...

Oh, by the way , I have noticed from the demo that from D#3 it gets suddenly louder. This my be a side effect of the GS3 to Kontakt conversion though...

Thanks again! I have to say your pianos are first class!

Thanks! Hope you will like the Vertikal! If you have any more question please feel free to contact me!

[hebjam]

Order done! Now to wait....

[Worra]

All who ordered the Vertikal in GS3 version will have a chance to get the Vertikal before the 15:th. The GS3 version is ready but the cover/inlay are not.
All Vertikal GS3 customers have been contacted via mail and asked if the want to get their copy of the Vertikal shipped later this week and then have the cover sent later.
If you have bought the Vertikal and not received this offer, please contact me at per@sampletekk.com.

Customers that have bought the Kontakt, HALion and EXS24 version will get a similar offer as soon as those versions are ready.

(btw, ony eight $50 copies left.... then the price goes up to $75)

[hebjam]

Hey, maybe I can ask this here.
I am mainly a guitarist/ singer so piano for me is limited. I basically use a Miditech Midicontrol 49 key board into Kontakt/Cubase Vst 5.2.
What use are the pedal down samples to me? I have yet to even hear what they sound like with my setup! I guess i need a pedal right?
Anyone know how i can use the pedal down samples in Kontakt?
Sorry if this is off topic!

[Worra]

Hey, maybe I can ask this here.
I am mainly a guitarist/ singer so piano for me is limited. I basically use a Miditech Midicontrol 49 key board into Kontakt/Cubase Vst 5.2.
What use are the pedal down samples to me? I have yet to even hear what they sound like with my setup! I guess i need a pedal right?
Anyone know how i can use the pedal down samples in Kontakt?
Sorry if this is off topic!

With pedal down samples I mean notes played with the sustain pedal down. What happens is that you lift the dampers from all the strings, so when hitting a key with the sustain pedal dow, you also get a differnt timbre since you get a lot of resonace from the other strings. In short, a note played with sustain pedal up sound different, in sound and timbre, then a note played with sustain pedal down.

A sampled piano that has only pedal up sampled, you get a sustained note when hitting a key (and releasing it) when pedal is pressed, but it's the pedal up note that's heard, so you wont get the difference in tmibre.
I guess you have to try it to hear what I mean!

Hope that this helps!

[hebjam]

Thanks Worra.
I guess i was asking a more general question of ' how do i use the pedal down samples if i dont have a pedal?'
Cause i don't! Just wondering if there's a way to do that in Kontakt?

[Theodor]

You can edit your midi in piano roll and add CC 64 for the pedal there. Pedal On is usually value 64-127 and Pedal Off is 0-63

[hebjam]

Gosh i wish i knew what you were talking about! Piano roll?

[Jaimo]

hebjam,

In all software sequencers (Cubase included), there is an edit page where the MIDI notes that were played from a keyboard are visually displayed in a manner similar to the turn of the century player piano's ( turn of the 20th century, that is!). You know, the ones with the roll of paper that had holes cut out of it, that would "trigger" the correct keys to play at the appropriate time. It's a very easy visual device to comprehend, which is why it appears in most, if not all, sequencing platforms.

Thus, the name "Piano Roll", although each sequencer probably has a different name for it, it's essentially the same thing.

In that "Piano Roll" page, would be a place to add and edit MIDI controller data, so that the sustain pedal controller information could be applied to your piano part, even if you don't physically have a pedal. Adding it this way isn't ideal from a pianist point of view, but it is entirely possible.

[hebjam]

Oh you mean the midi edit window. I mainly just want to be able to chose either pedal up or down while playing. I like that long ringing sound, but as i say, ive tried everything with the groups in Kontakt and never seem to hear anything but the pedal up.

[Jaimo]

Somewhere in you MIDI edit window, the MIDI values for sustain pedal (controller # 64) can be displayed. I don't use Cubase, or I'd tell you exactly where.

Anyhow, as long as you program the pedal to be "down" you should hear that layer of samples as you record, as well as on playback.