Really OT: burning CD from disk image

[rob morsberger]

Sorry to be so stunningly irrelevant...
but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make multiple copies of, say, an audio CD (my own work BTW, not pirating anything) by making a disc image. Isn't this how it's done?
I'm on a Mac G5 and using Toast.
Can anyone step me through this??

Thanks,

Rob

[Alan Lastufka]

.iso's have been useful for nothing but pirates (not implying anything, just saying its an awkward format for music). There are much easier ways if you are looking to make copies of your personal music. If it is set up as wav files on your HDD, you could simply set up a burn session of the tracks in the order you want, burn multiple copies and save the session for recall later.

If they are on a mastered red-book CD already, you can simply use two CD drives and make a 1:1 copy that way. Or you can copy the CD to your HDD and proceed to set up the burn session I first recommended.

Short that and if you're really set on the .iso format, you can grab a freeware program called MagicISO that will make .iso images from your personal music CDs.

[rob morsberger]

Alan to the rescue!...thank you.
Specifically what I need to do is make some pre-release copies of my new record. It's mastered. I want to preserve the spacings. So that's why I don't want to extract audio files. My second CD burner just died, so I'm trying to figure out how to accomplish this conveniently with only the G5 burner.

I thought the answer was to make a disk image. Am I wrong?
But I can't get it to work.

Thanks again,

Rob

[Alan Lastufka]

Well, depending on how many copies you need... Musician's Friend offers duplication services for a decent price, but I think they need a minimum of liek 50 or 100 copies.

Best solution would be to get yourself a second burner, USB cheap thing and do 1:1 copies. But the MagicISO freeware program I mentioned above will allow you to make .iso images of your album.

[JonFairhurst]

What's the matter with saving an ISO file on your hard drive, and burning that to future discs?

-JF

[jhaggerty]

Drag your Master CD to Toast. After it shows all the audio tracks and the spacing is correct then under the pulldown file menu chose "Save as Disc Image" After that you will have a Image file of the CD you can make multiple copies from.
J

[Alan Lastufka]

Nothing's 'the matter' with it, I just never really used them before and I'm afraid of the unknown. heh.

I just think having the album on HDD as wav files (with the proper start and stop times form the mastered disc) is easiest as you can then use that HDD space for files you can either burn for CD, or listen to on your compy - serves two stones with one bird or soemthing like that.

[midphase]

Alan,

You need to get yourself a Mac. Seriously, your advice (although well meaning) is a bit convoluted. Duplicating CD's (audio or data) on a Mac is cake and built into the OS (no Toast required).

Get a Mini! :|:

[Alan Lastufka]

Hehe. I get crap all the time about being a PC weenie, especially from all my other graphic design friends who are all on Macs. I worked on a G4 for a while. Some things were fun, but mostly I just wished I could make it work more like a PC. Besides, crossgrading all my software to OS X will blow half a year's salary - lol.

The mini does look nice come the day that I really need to use a Mac only program. So far I have found PC equivalents for everything I've needed.

[rob morsberger]

ok great...I appreciate all the help with my mundane question.
But I still can't figure it out. Following J's advice, when I drag the CD onto Toast (5.2 here...is that the problem?) I just get a little cloud appearing and my cd disappears from the desktop.
I don't even know what an iso is Alan, but thanks!
I can make copies using Toast and the one burner, but it is very inefficient as each copy requires the whole CD to be copied into RAM (I assume), then it burns. Again...surely disk image is the solution...but how??

Rob

[Alan Lastufka]

.iso is the disc image file format, its a monolith file format. I can't help you with Toast, try their Help menu perhaps if Jamie's steps don't work for your version?

[rob morsberger]

thanks again Alan. Obviously the help file hasn't been, errr, helping me!
Maybe I'm beyond help.

Rob

[Brian W. Ralston]

Rob,

Take your mastered CD you are trying to copy, put it in the drive. Open toast. select copy CD tab. Go to file and "save as disc image". It will copy the CD to a disc image for toast and will give you a choice of where to save that file.

In the future to make copies from that image...select copy disc tab in toast again...on the left column, select "from image file". Choose the image file you made...and it will make exact copies of that file to the blank CDs you put into your drive.

I do this for my demo DVDs as well. It is much faster burning a copy from an existing image file. The throughput on the hard drive is faster than copying from another disc...and there are less errors overall...because the hard drive can basically feed data to the burner at whatever speed it requires.

EDIT: yeah...the above is in Toast Titanium. Which also does DVDs and Dual Layered DVDs...but Toast 5.2 can make image files too. So...it should be roughly the same.

[Aaron Dirk]

Hehe. I get crap all the time about being a PC weenie, especially from all my other graphic design friends who are all on Macs.

....and me ;)

I use toast as well.

[rob morsberger]

Brian,

THANK YOU. You da man! That is exactly what I was dismally failing to figure out.

I really, really appreciate all the help.

Thanks again,
Rob

[Bela D Media]

Macs shmacks :p

PS. Nothing burns like Vegas baby! CD Architect is killer as well. Awesome for radio edits too.

[Nick Batzdorf]

Go into Disk Tools (option command U from the Finder - it's in the Utilities folder). Make a disk image. Drag that image onto CDs you insert.

And Bob's your uncle.

[rob morsberger]

How did you know Bob's my uncle? (It's really true!)
Love the mag BTW..

Rob

[rob morsberger]

BTW...for a sneak preview of the record,
go here:
http://www.robmorsberger.com/aperiodicrushofwaves.html

[jhaggerty]

Open Toast...5.2 should work (OS X I'm assuming)>set the type of disc to AUDIO (the little music icon)> then drag your audio CD to the toast window.
It should ask you to give the CD a name then you will see the tracks line themselves up in the window. Then you just have to chose "Save as disc image" Should work just fine. Or do as Nick suggests (and it is a great magazine!).
J

[rob morsberger]

Thanks again JH...for some reason that doesn't work though. (Yes, 5.2 on System 10.3.5.) But Brian's instructions worked...more or less as described.

Rob

[Brian W. Ralston]

Brian,

THANK YOU. You da man! That is exactly what I was dismally failing to figure out.

I really, really appreciate all the help.

Thanks again,
Rob

No prob. Glad it all worked out.

[kid-surf]

Just reiterating -------


the way Brian described is the way I do it too....


It's literally two clicks.........

Click 1 --- "copy disk"

Then -------- A chime sounds, so I look over to see that the tray is open.... I'm brilliant enough to (at this point) figure out that it wants me to insert a "blank disc". :D (oh, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to take out the other disc first though!!!! :D )


Click 2 ---- "burn"


That's it..........

(Oh and thank God -or whoever -- for Macs. ;) I am a little biased though, I have 4. But I'm also pretty stupid when it comes to computers, so it seems to work out :D )