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Michiel Post
08-26-2005, 12:27 PM
The PMI Clavichords is finished. At least I canīt think of more things to change so it can be released next week.
Any last minute opnions are welcome though. I have been in doubt how to deal with the eq of the samples. There is so much "wood" in the instruments that I was tempted to remove some low end from the samples. But this can be done by the user also and after removing frequencies there is no way to get them back!


Two instruments were sampled:
Small clavichord after anonymous German instrument dating from c. 1650.

http://www.sruysclavichorden.nl/Clavichord1.jpg
Double and triple-fretted, shortened bass octave. Compass C/E - c3 Double strung in brass. Keys: boxwood and coromandel. Keyfronts covered with embossed parchment.

Large clavichord after Johann Heinrich Silbermann, Strasbourg, dating from 1775

http://www.sruysclavichorden.nl/Clavichord2.jpg
Unfretted 5 octaves, compass FF - f3 Double strung in brass, spun strings in bass octave. Case in cherry or walnut.Keys: Ebony and old ivory-topped pear. Turned and fluted legs. Hinges and escutcheon in brass. A rose of three layers of parchment in the soundboard.

Two small clips made with the current beta:
PMI CLAVICHORD small (http://www.postpiano.com/products/demos/clavi/clavi%20small%201.mp3)

PMI CLavichord LARGE (http://www.postpiano.com/products/demos/clavi/clavi%20large%201.mp3)

Patrick Godfrey
08-26-2005, 01:32 PM
Hi Michiel,

They sound very good to me, and I would prefer you left the wood in.

I can chisel it out later if need be!

Thanks for making these available.

Patrick

johnamriding
08-26-2005, 03:44 PM
Not sure what the difference between clavi small 1 and clavi large 1 mean: presumably they're the actual clavichords... I much prefer the smaller clavichord myself.

Have you any clips which illustrate the difference between the "wood" in and leaving the "wood" out? I think that would be most helpful.

I look forward VERY MUCH to this release!

johnamriding
08-26-2005, 03:48 PM
P.S. I agree: keep the wood in!!!

Crystal
08-26-2005, 06:10 PM
I have been in doubt how to deal with the eq of the samples. There is so much "wood" in the instruments that I was tempted to remove some low end from the samples. But this can be done by the user also and after removing frequencies there is no way to get them back!

Your totally right about this. Don’t cut anything, it never grows again, with samples !
Is there some layers for that kind of instrument ? If not so the file should be light. Do some patches like you did with the Bos 290 if you want to propose some EQs...

I realy like the wet sound.

So realistic.

But I wonder about the dynamic I hear in you demos : is it the dynamic of the instrument or the sample player ?

Cause the dynamic sounds very large (from P to F).

I though those clavichord mechanics just can’t have such a big dynamic.

fozzy
08-30-2005, 11:58 AM
Awesome news !!!

Any ETA for its release? Still aiming for this week? Now if only you'd spoil us with one more fortepiano library.http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Michiel Post
08-30-2005, 12:13 PM
But I wonder about the dynamic I hear in you demos : is it the dynamic of the instrument or the sample player ?

Cause the dynamic sounds very large (from P to F).

I though those clavichord mechanics just can’t have such a big dynamic.
True, the demos use a full scale velocity. The patches have a more limited range. Also, there are patches with dynamic filtering to make the sound a little mellower when played soft.

Michiel Post
08-30-2005, 12:14 PM
Awesome news !!!

Any ETA for its release? Still aiming for this week? Now if only you'd spoil us one more fortepiano library.http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Still this week.
I have sampled a second Fortepiano. Itīs a new (as opposed to my previous recording) instrument that has a totally different sound. Youīll love it!

fozzy
08-31-2005, 10:10 AM
Still this week.
I have sampled a second Fortepiano. Itīs a new (as opposed to my previous recording) instrument that has a totally different sound. Youīll love it!

WOW! http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif I 'm so psyched. I'll be first in line. I'll look forward to it (and the clavichord).

Rich Pell
08-31-2005, 01:54 PM
What a great sound ! :) The only thing i noticed was i thought the large Clavicord a times sounded a little 'phasey'. Do you know what i mean? Best, Rich

Hardy Heern
09-01-2005, 10:21 AM
I love the sound Michiel.....not that unlike a hammered Dulcimer

Talking of jangly sounding string things (which I love), has anyone sampled a Zither....sorry just reminiscing on the Harry Lime theme from the Third Man series....giving away my age.:eek:

Frank

PS..I look forward to hearing your new Fortepiano.