Break through in sample play back technology

[Chaim Goldman]

http://www.toontrack.com/news.shtml



On Thursday the 15th of September Toontrack Music will be releasing
their update to the SUPERIOR software powering dfh-Superior and
Superior Custom and Vintage.

The update, Superior 1.5, features Toontrack Percussive Compression, a
revolutionary on-the-fly compression/decompression technology that
helps to keep the sampler memory footprint low at no cost to playback
quality.

Also available in the new update is 16 Bit playback, a feature that will
minimize demand on resources even further, up to a factor 5 in
combination with TPC. This will be of particular interest to performers
who do not need pristine quality while tracking their parts but demand
the best for their final output.

Toontrack Music plans to keep developing and incorporating TPC
technology in products to come and claims it a major step in further
developing revolutionary drumsamplers at all levels.

[Brian2112]

Got it! Works Great!:D

DFHS and C&V
No more tracking with other sounds to save Ram!
Great Stuff!
(Might have to finally hook up my triggers again)
...2112:)

[KingIdiot]

uhm...

gigastudios been doing this for a while...

its just that not every developer is taking advantage of it.

[jloeb]

It's quite nifty - i can now load the *entire* bleed set for a kit into less than 1 gig of RAM with 16bit mode and TPC on. Eats more CPU, of course, but by being somewhat more selective than "everything on!", it would become possible to get the overall character of the final sound in memory while tracking.

[Jake Johnson]

I'm having trouble understanding what Superior is. (Is it just me, or is their website written by people who don't speak English as their first language?)


Is Superior a new soft sampler? I couldn't find any mention of it one the three pages at the site.

[Jake Johnson]

More research led me to understand that dfh is the abbreviation for Drums From Hell. Not sure I would use the abbreviation in news releases.

[midphase]

I agree with Ash, this is not a break through in sample play back technology...it's just marketing PR hype!

What it is, a useful way of managing a library that is otherwise pretty unmanageable!

[wes37]

I'm having trouble understanding what Superior is. (Is it just me, or is their website written by people who don't speak English as their first language?)


Is Superior a new soft sampler? I couldn't find any mention of it one the three pages at the site.Jake,

I got the same impression from their site. In doing some research, the Toontrack drum libraries are aimed at people who want ultra-realistic drums, to include many of the hassles. By "hassles", the samples are dry and to properly use the set you need to know how to mix, use effects on each separate part, etc. Geeting a great sound will be an effort, but the payoff is phenomenal.

I think the Toontrack guys are drummers and this is their idea of a perfect library for e-drummers (drummers that use midi triggers), though it'll work fine under the control of a good sequencer.

Good stuff.

Wes

[Ouch that hurts]

I think the Toontrack guys are drummers...

Right, so that explains the problems with English then. :)

[Jimi]

Right, so that explains the problems with English then. :)

BWAHAHAHAHAHA
I almost choked on a pea.

[jloeb]

What it is, a useful way of managing a library that is otherwise pretty unmanageable!

This comment doesn't make much sense to me. The whole genius of dfhs is that there is no 'management' of the library to do at all. I mean, what would you prefer? Fewer samples? Then the sound wouldn't be as realistic as it is (and it is). Fewer choices in setting up bleed? Then those with the resources wouldn't be able to take advantage of what the library offers in real time. The articulations (various hits) are in my opinion handled brilliantly and transparently, the rendering process is straightforward and produces fantastic results, and the program literally bends over backwards in order to make the library useful on as broad a variety of systems as possible in terms of available RAM/CPU; this update is just another example of that.

The compression may not be a completely new way of playing samples, but aside from that, i hate to see a truly clever product that delivers amazing sounding results, while having a price point like this one does, get slapped around unjustifiably.

[Angus_FX]

Roland synths have been doing this for a while. Steinberg Hypersonic also does something similar.

[Bruce A. Richardson]

The compression may not be a completely new way of playing samples, but aside from that, i hate to see a truly clever product that delivers amazing sounding results, while having a price point like this one does, get slapped around unjustifiably.

Well, one opens himself up to that kind of "slapping around" when he spouts a bunch of empty hype with no real technical information (or in this case) advancement to back it up.

They're doing nothing different, as far as anyone can tell, than the original GigaSampler did in 1999 (as far as sample playback is concerned) but the hype is so hot on the anouncement you'd think they'd invented the orgasm. Lossless realtime compression has been available for a long time in percussive envelope samples. It is not rocket science.

Empty hype is really annoying. One would expect in in toothpaste or washing detergent commercials (New Super-Ultra Tide), but wouldn't we prefer our industry to just be straight up? I know I would.

[Herman Witkam]

I'm having trouble understanding what Superior is. (Is it just me, or is their website written by people who don't speak English as their first language?)they from sweden, like drummer record first DFH

Just kidding :D

They're from Sweden, like that drummer they recorded for the first DFH lib (Thomas Haake from Swedish metal band Meshuggah)

[c.k]

Empty hype is really annoying.


Right on! Such a non-professional statement from the pro! :eek:

DFHS and C&V allow you to program you drum tracks in 16-bit, compressed mode - and bounce it in 32-bit, with all the bleeding. It's like to be able to use EWQLSO Silver for the programming and then bounce the tracks using EWQLSO Platinum, right there, on the same computer, within the same sequencer program, without any additional resources. Great, great feature!


Cheers,

ck