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Bela D Media

11-08-2005, 09:00 AM

The DVD celebrates RUSH's $21-million grossing, sell-out 30th Anniversary World Tour. The concert was filmed with 14 hi-definition cameras in 16x9 widescreen format at the Festhalle, Frankfurt Germany on September 24, 2004.

http://www.rush.com/php/media/tour/stage_wide391.jpg

ziggy

11-08-2005, 09:15 AM

I was disappointed to not be able to see them during that tour. Thanks for the heads up. Nice pic too .. nothing like some good 'ole RUSH!

Brian2112

11-08-2005, 09:15 AM

Yea, I plan to pitch a tent at Best Buy on Nov. 22

I'll be the only one there...but hey a fanatic is a fanatic.

...2112:)

Bela D Media

11-08-2005, 09:27 AM

HD baby!! Can't want to see this on my 57" 16:9 TV http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif
I should pick one of those DVD players that uploads to 1080i. Anyone using it?

Brian2112

11-08-2005, 09:41 AM

HD baby!! Can't want to see this on my 57" 16:9 TV
:p Tellya what...I'll buy it if Wife and I can come over to your place and watch it.

sghoughton

11-08-2005, 09:56 AM

Styxx

11-08-2005, 09:58 AM

Oh man! Got to get me a copy! We be Peart-ing!

Bela D Media

11-08-2005, 10:00 AM

Would be nice if this came out in windows media hi def - those look fantastic.

I have a scaler in my home theater pc - does a fairly decent job but its still not magic. Works well on the 8 foot screen though. Videos look wonderful there. Frank, does your bigscreen have vga or dvi inputs? If so, you could hook up your pc temporarily to it - looks fantastic. I have a 56 inch samsung as well and it looks fantastic with and htpc hooked up to it.

steve

Hi Steve,

Hooked up via DVI. So I would this 10801 DVD player avoid having to resize for full screen? The 2:5.31 (whatever it is) DVDs do look sweet but that's after resize.

I was thinking about putting the PC on but the TV only has one DVI input and 2 comps ins. Guess I would need a box of sorts.

sghoughton

11-08-2005, 10:28 AM

The scaler should be outputting native hi-def res so your tv doesnt have to do that work.

ATI has a DVI to component adapter i think. That can be a decent option. I actually have my big(ger) screen on a projector hooked up through vga and the smaller 56 through DVI on a different htpc.

The scaler dvd players would likely have component or HDMI.

The nice thing about the computer as a scaler over the upconverting dvd players is the ammount of control you have over the final image. You can completely taylor your pic to the display (for example, my projector isnt high def but my 56er is) - each is completely taylored to that image (sharpness, etc). You just dont have that kind of control with the dvd scalers.

You can get a regular resolution dvd looking very good (if its a good dvd, some are not so good at all - Braveheart for example is unwatchable in my opinion on a large screen, whereas Lord of the Rings is a thing of beauty). Some dvds have far more information on them and scale beautifully (futureshop just sold off al their superbit dvds very cheaply - they are great for scaling).

steve

Bela D Media

11-08-2005, 10:29 AM

Great reply. Thanks for the input!

Ian Dorsch

11-08-2005, 10:35 AM

Man, I'd be all over this one if I wasn't blowing my wad on an Xbox 360 that week. Maybe it'll be under the Christmas tree, though. :D

Interesting that they're coming out with another live DVD so soon after Rush in Rio. I have to say, I'm actually a little more excited about the DVD remasters of the old live videos. I hear Exit Stage Left is going to be stunning.

Brian2112

11-08-2005, 10:38 AM

One thing kind of interesting is that the evil German dictator took to that very stage. It with wonderful irony that Rush take to this same stage in 2004 and Germans come to celebrate and enjoy all that is integrity, peace, music, and our common humanity. And Geddy Lee, whose parents narrowly survived the holocaust at Auschwitz leads this chorus of human dignity.
It is giving the ultimate historical finger to all things evil of the past!

...2112:)

Lunatique

11-09-2005, 03:00 AM

Can you guys explain why Neil Peart is considered the greatest drummer in rock? Just wondering what makes him stand out from all the other kickass drummers out there.

Alexcremers

11-09-2005, 03:26 AM

And while you're at it, why does he play so robotic? He definitely needs to adopt some Ringo "swung" in that playing style of his, if you know what I mean.

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Alex Cremers

Brian2112

11-09-2005, 04:43 AM

Can you guys explain why Neil Peart is considered the greatest drummer in rock? Just wondering what makes him stand out from all the other kickass drummers out there.

And while you're at it, why does he play so robotic? He definitely needs to adopt some Ringo "swung" in that playing style of his, if you know what I mean.

Not that it matters much, but just to give you some background as to why I think he is the greatest:

I’m currently…well…over 35http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif . I’ve been playing drums all my life. I received formal training at Berklee College of Music in Boston where I studied with Tommy Campbell (http://www.tommycampbell.com/discography.htm (http://www.tommycampbell.com/discography.htm)) - a monster himself (scroll down and note the names on that list). As a young drummer, I loved jazz, but also John Bonham of Led Zeppelin, Keith Moon, Bill Bruford and the usual cast. In jazz, my favorite drummers were/ are - my teacher (of course), Dave Weckl, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa and others.

I remember the first time I heard Neil Peart in the mid to late 70’s. A friend who knew I thought Bonham was the end-all of rock drummers played me the drum solo from the old “All the World’s a Stage” record. I had never heard drumming like this before. My first reaction was “This was overdubbed – one man could not do this – it is humanly impossible”. It was not overdubbed. So ok, he can solo real well. How does he contribute to a piece of music? Later, another friend brought over the “Farewell to Kings” record. I listened to the track “Xanadu”. What was immediately clear to me was that this guy was not a drummer, he was a percussionist. He composed his drum parts. If anyone else at the time tried this, they would be over-playing – but this was something new. It went beyond keeping time and feel, and was actually a crucial part of the composition as a whole. It was melodic and harmonic. It had counterpoint and melodic development. Every lick was tasteful – never out of place, and though extremely sophisticated and technically brilliant, it was never overplaying. Odd meters were occasionally used by other bands at the time, but with Rush, it never sounded “odd”.

The complaint that many have had with his drumming has been that it is “too perfect” as if played by a computer (technical brilliance but lacking in feel). I actually had this criticism of him as well. John Bonham played straight eight notes, but it had swing. Some people argued that Bonham’s sound was tied into his drum kit, the engineering, and the band he played in. But if Bonham played on a different kit, with a different engineer and a different band, I know I could spot him immediately. It was, in fact, his feel that was his trademark.

In the late 1990’s Peart decided to take drum lessons (after 20+ years of being called the greatest ever). He learned about a beat being a circle, and not a point on a graph. When I first heard the track “Half the World” on the “Test for Echo” CD, I thought to myself “Jesus! Happy learned how to putt!”. Now he’s got it all! A famous jazz drummer once called Peart “the Michael Jordan of percussion”. Interestingly, he was called this again by the New York Times in an article about the great jazz drummers.

Now I must tell you that I eventually learned how to play any lick that he could play. But I never could come up with the creative, tasteful, nuances that he adds to music. In truth, he is a top of the line Jazz Fusion drummer in a “rock” band.

…2112http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

Lunatique

11-09-2005, 05:05 AM

Thank you for that great explanation! I'll have to give Rush a closer listen just for the drumming.

I play drums too (Clavia Ddrum 4 system), but I've only been playing for a couple of years.

My favorite drummer at the moment is Akira Jimbo, a jazz fusion drummer who plays with Casiopea, and also quite well known for his solo works, drum workshops, and his innovative "triggering system" style of playing, where he plays an entire band by himself by triggering chords, notes..etc with MIDI pads and trigger sensors rigged to his drumset. He's got incredible independence of his limbs, and has a great "groove" feel to his drumming. He's also very good at latin influenced drumming and incorporates it into his own style.

Bela D Media

11-09-2005, 10:35 AM

sbkp

11-09-2005, 10:43 AM

Bela D Media

11-09-2005, 10:47 AM

Ooooooooh snap! http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif

http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

dpasdernick

11-09-2005, 10:53 AM

Enough about Neil... http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

We all know the real talent behind RUSH is Geddy Lee!

VOCALS
BASS
BASS PEDALS
SYNTHS

Anything else you want the guy to do?

Yes... STOP!!!!!!!

;)

Rush ain't bad but they need to fire that girl lead singer, get a new guitar player and find a drummer with bigger hair.

D ;)

PS Francis Just having fun with ya! Again, if you grew up with CanCon you'd be sick of them too.

Bela D Media

11-09-2005, 11:05 AM

I'm sick of the same lame vocal reference though. It's not 1975. Has anyone heard Geddy's voice in the past 5 years? Smooth as silk. Go play AVAILABLE LIGHT from Presto and get back to me.

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dpasdernick

11-09-2005, 11:17 AM

Francis... I was just having some fun....

D

Bela D Media

11-09-2005, 11:22 AM

I know. I was speaking in general. I'd be less defensive if someone took a shot at my wife - hehehe :p

Will Loconto

11-09-2005, 11:30 AM

Yea, I plan to pitch a tent at Best Buy on Nov. 22

I'll be the only one there...but hey a fanatic is a fanatic.

...2112:)

You'll be in line behind all the tents for the XBOX 360 though... :)

sbkp

11-09-2005, 12:17 PM

Enough about Neil... http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

We all know the real talent behind RUSH is Geddy Lee!

VOCALS
BASS
BASS PEDALS
SYNTHS

Anything else you want the guy to do?

Oh, and do his freakin' laundry at home. I think it's terribly inappropriate to be drying clothes while on stage. Aren't there roadies for that?!?!?!?!

:p

- Stefan

ddarwin7

11-09-2005, 01:12 PM

Thanks Bela for the post. Terrific picture. So Nov 22, is that the date the DVD is released. I can't wait to get this.

What I really like about Rush is what I call the perfect combination. Getty's bass, keys and great vocals (I think Getty has a very powerful incredible voice, and Rush wouldn't be Rush without that voice, at least for me). Combine that with the precision of Peart, and lead of Alex, and you have this perfect sound, that's just hard to beat. One of the greatest band of all times.

ziggy

11-09-2005, 05:00 PM

I wish I could have been in on this thread as it grew and grew, but I'm not available to post during most of the day! It's just nice to see alot of Rush fans talk about what they love most about this different, and powerful band! I was a Geddy clone in high school (now I'm 29!). Every note, not an original thought in my head! :rolleyes:

I always loved how, except for the very end (let's count -- except for the last 7 words), the entire first verse of "The Camera Eye" is one long, (and gramatically correct) sentence. Always loved that :o

On a side note: I've been to six shows, and never was in my seat for the opening song (which was usually Dreamline). I always was held up for something. Next time I'll be ready!

sghoughton

11-24-2005, 10:04 PM

Watching it now...

sghoughton

11-24-2005, 11:07 PM

So it looks like Geddy is using a yamaha kx-88 and a roland d50. Since the kx is just a master keyboard, would that be plugged into the roland or some other sound generating unit. I'd like to imitate those old 80s sounds i miss so much and would just like to know if its the d50 or not that i'm hearing. Anyone know where to start?

steve