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SCARBEE
11-23-2005, 05:32 AM
November 23
"Imperial Drums XL Special PREORDER Offer!"
http://www.scarbee.com/_images/products/sidxl/sidxl_small.jpg

Until december 5 (official release date) we offer a special PREORDER price for Scarbee Imperial Drums XL Virtual Instrument (46 GB of quality drum samples) of only $249! Normal price will be $299 and upgrade price for owners of Imperial Drums sample library will be $149.

Go to www.scarbee-shop.com (http://www.scarbee-shop.com) and look for offer..

enarmonico
11-23-2005, 06:39 AM
Scarbee, nice offert!
I noticed there are no new demos and I'd like to listen to something new showing the new stuff.
What kind of style for the midi-groove can we expect? And how many variations and fills for each grooves?
On the forum hosted on on your site there were some talking about a tutorial for drum programming and audio processing. Is it included in this new release?

gabri

Simone
11-23-2005, 07:24 AM
Hi,

Demos will be posted as soon as possible.

In the meantime you can listen to the 'old' SID demos: SID materlial is about 1/5 size of the current XL release though...

Basically pop, rock, soul, funky stuff...

There are lots of variations and fills for each kind of groove.

Some grooves will also be added later for download for registered users.

Also: since there is a VDrums version of each drum in the lib, if you have some VDrums/GM compatible grooves they will playback fine with those programs.

Some Tutorials are now in Quicktime format, while others in PDF...

Best regards,

Simone Coen

Ray Lindsley
11-23-2005, 07:55 AM
This is what I've been waiting for. I have the initial SID release which is a great product. It is so detailed that it is hard to believe that it is just 1/5 of the new library! Given this fact, I think the $149 upgrade price is very reasonable. Thanks guys!

SCARBEE
11-23-2005, 08:01 AM
This is what I've been waiting for. I have the initial SID release which is a great product. It is so detailed that it is hard to believe that it is just 1/5 of the new library! Given this fact, I think the $149 upgrade price is very reasonable. Thanks guys!

Thanks Ray,

You will love the new features - using the 8 Q-controls to set individual mix of each drums + now we have the correct output names (like Overhead, BD In, etc) - so you don't need to name them yourself...

The sound is wonderfull - Simone is a very talented drum producer..:)

Len
11-23-2005, 08:10 AM
This looks like what I have been waiting for also. But I have just done a search of this Forum and the Gearslutz forum and there do not appear to be many comments on the original Imperial Drums. For example, comparing them with DKFH or BFD and the like.

I do mainly pop-rock and slightly retro sounding stuff.

If anyone has links to such discussions that would be great. Also if Scarbee can point me to some reviews that would be great too!

Cheers all

Len
www.lenmusic.com

Simone
11-23-2005, 08:58 AM
I remember a thread over at KVR... maybe in the fxpansion forum...

Best,

Simone Coen

SCARBEE
11-23-2005, 09:03 AM
This looks like what I have been waiting for also. But I have just done a search of this Forum and the Gearslutz forum and there do not appear to be many comments on the original Imperial Drums. For example, comparing them with DKFH or BFD and the like.

I do mainly pop-rock and slightly retro sounding stuff.

If anyone has links to such discussions that would be great. Also if Scarbee can point me to some reviews that would be great too!

Cheers all

Len
www.lenmusic.com (http://www.lenmusic.com)

We never got a SID review - hopefully the VI version will be reviewed...

In my opinion SID has a very tight and "In your face" sound - well suited for pop/funk music

Houston Haynes
11-23-2005, 09:10 AM
This is the kit if you want realistic drums. Multiple mic positions plus an astonishing array of strikes under truly intuitive control make this a must-have for anyone who wants to take MIDI drum tracks from being simply groovey to absolutely alive. I've never tried DKFH or BFD, so I cannot comment on them, but I can't believe that any other product would surpass SID's level of detail. SCARBEE's attention to "the little things" translates to all of their products. I've read several user comments that their keyboards actually *change* the way their keyboard feels - a sense that I can identify with - it truly is that good. I'd love for a MIDI drum trigger user to comment on whether SID does the same thing for them.

My standard process for creating a drum track is to grab Groove Agent or Groove Agent 2 and use that to get something that's close to what I want, and then extract to a MIDI track - edit to taste, and then split the track out into separate parts per note (something that I have under a macro in Cubase SX). Usually I drop GA and load up SID in HALion (being able to choose the stick/beater makes a HUGE difference), but sometimes I keep GA in place for adding a few sounds that are outside of the standard kit pallette. I then go through and add controllers to each track (if I'm in a rush I usually just do the cymbals - hat, ride and crashes) and then process to taste. One of my "secret weapons" is to use SCARBEE's Vintage Keyboard Effects on drums to get a "retro" sound. They sound great, are easy on the CPU, and are pitch perfect for the vintage sound, regardless of the instrument that plays through it.

A funny side note - I was producing a disco cue for a Lion's Gate feature that was rejected because the drums sounded too dated. The primary composer (who is a first-call L.A. session drummer) called me to tell me and we both howled at how funny that was. He argued with the producer that when they ask for a "disco" tune, that's how the drums are *supposed* to sound - to which he replied, "Yeah, but I didn't expect you guys to nail it." :D

Every time I hand off a supporting cue to Deane, he always asks "which drum sounds did you use for this?" and the end of the exchange always ends the same way, with him saying "I've got to get those SCARBEE drums and be done with it." That's high praise from a guy who has just about every sampled drum kit you can imagine - and also has a real kit that he can set up and record in his own studio.

'Nuff said.

Simone
11-23-2005, 09:11 AM
Production goal was: multimic drums, totally dry... small room...

completely customizable thanks to modern outboard and plugin processors... convolution reverbs... name it...

The Stereo versions of the drums (edit: 108 BDs, 120 SDs, 29 HH...) still feature lots of velocities (BD: 32, SD: 24 for each technique/hand, HH: 14 for each opening degree) and techniques and were made starting from the multimic using state of the art processing by SSL, Neve, AMS, Focusrite, Lexicon, Eventide, Universal Audio, many others and many plugins...

edit: The stereo versions alone make up for 13.5 GB of the library... I guess this is more than any other stereo (classic) library has ever done...

Some Programs make use of the FX built in in HALion, most don't as the degree of processing was attainable exclusively by using revered analogue processors...

Stereo versions are already cooked (but you also get basic dry mixed stereo drums) and good to save on memory, disk, ideas (!) and time...

Best,

Simone

linwood
11-23-2005, 10:42 AM
Great news. I've had my eye on the scarbee site waiting for this release. Thanks for doing this one Simone. I guess you know what it's like to give birth now.

SCARBEE
11-23-2005, 10:46 AM
Great news. I've had my eye on the scarbee site waiting for this release. Thanks for doing this one Simone. I guess you know what it's like to give birth now.

Hey Linwood - you are customer No. 1 of SIDXL!! :)

Simone
11-23-2005, 10:51 AM
well not really...

but I've never been through such an adventure!

I admit I thought I had seen it all: never ending record productions, unpleasable movie directors...

But mine is an insatiable mind ;)

Hope lots of people will love my labour of love...

Best,

Simone

FredProgGH
11-23-2005, 10:59 AM
So wait, is this HALion only?? Or is it a bundled player that will work with any VST environment??

linwood
11-23-2005, 11:00 AM
Hey Linwood - you are customer No. 1 of SIDXL!!

Fantastic! I've always wanted to be # 1.

Simone
11-23-2005, 11:02 AM
So wait, is this HALion only?? Or is it a bundled player that will work with any VST environment??

It comes with a player that works Stand Alone, Rewire, VST, DXi and AU.

Best,

Simone

Ray Lindsley
11-23-2005, 12:15 PM
This looks like what I have been waiting for also. But I have just done a search of this Forum and the Gearslutz forum and there do not appear to be many comments on the original Imperial Drums. For example, comparing them with DKFH or BFD and the like.

I do mainly pop-rock and slightly retro sounding stuff.

If anyone has links to such discussions that would be great. Also if Scarbee can point me to some reviews that would be great too!

Cheers all

Len
www.lenmusic.com

I can comment at how the original SID compares to DKFH Superior and Custom and Vintage (because I own them all), but not BFD. I want to start by saying I have no axe to grind either way- I really like both the Toontracks and Scarbee products, but I think they are different. To me the difference is that the Toontracks (DKFH Superior and Custom & Vintage) products is that the Toontracks have numerous different kits wheras SID focuses on much more detail with one DW kit and only Paiste cymbals. Less selections. but much more detail with SID. The thing is that the kit Scarbee chose to sample is a great sounding one!

The thing is that with the proper mixing and processing (use of EQ, compression, limiting, etc.) you can get a lot of sounds out of the one kit that covers just about any musical style, and that's the beauty of the unprocessed samples. As far as the detail- you not only get a lot of velocity layers, but you have hits on different parts of the drumhead and cymbal, which is great because a drummer never hits the same spot 100% of the time.

I do a lot of metal and heavy rock stuff, so I was using the Sonor kit in DKFHS as my "go to" kit. But then I saw Steve Vai in concert and his drummer was using a DW kit and getting a huge sound. This got me thinking that I should try using SID on some heavier tracks, and it's given me great results.

There were a few things with SID that I think prevented me from using it almost exclusively that I think will be fixed with this update-
1) I found it easier to deal with the micing scheme and multitrack with the DKFHS. I think this had to do with the Halion 2 interface and the fact that I just worked a lot more with the Toontrack interface and got used to it.
2) limited cymbal and tom-tom sounds
3) Toontracks offered a lot of support on how to get a good sound out of the dry samples by providing midi files, Cubase project files complete with eq, ccompressor, and limiter settings, and tutorials to get you started.

I really like the idea of focusing on one kit enough so that you can make it sound the way you want it to and have an incredible level of detail. I think the update will remove the few things that bothered me about SID, and I expect this to be my "go to" drums for just about all of my projects.

FredProgGH
11-23-2005, 12:20 PM
It comes with a player that works Stand Alone, Rewire, VST, DXi and AU.

Best,

Simone

Great!! I'm a staunch DFHS user- I love the sound and the way the kits render, but I also think that the SID drums sound fantastic and if this version is set up to work the way DFHS does I'd love to have both.

So what's all that about having to buy a Steinberg key?? Does that mean another 30 bucks??


On another note, Any possibility of a deal on the new drums with the J-Bass as a bundle? I really need that bass too :D :D :D

Mike Greene
11-23-2005, 01:08 PM
I can comment at how the original SID compares to DKFH Superior and Custom and Vintage (because I own them all), but not BFD . . .
That's a very helpful comparison! I'll have to check this set out. Thanks Ray! :)

- Mike Greene

Len
11-23-2005, 02:15 PM
Thanks for the replies to my question. Argh - now the question is, can I justify spending another $250 on software...

Cheers

Len
www.lenmusic.com

clonewar
11-23-2005, 02:20 PM
So what's all that about having to buy a Steinberg key?? Does that mean another 30 bucks??

I'd like to know about this also. Your site says "Steinberg Key Required (NOT included)". Is this a physical USB key that has to be purchased? I'm not a Cubase or Halion user so I don't know anything about the Steinberg Key.

Thanks,
Michael

Simone
11-23-2005, 03:23 PM
Hi,

the Steinberg Key or dongle is made by Syncrosoft and is the same being used now also by Korg and IK (for Philarmonik).

You just need one key ($29) to authorize all the softwares protected by that dongle system: be it Groove Agent 2, HALion, HALion Player, Cubase SX, Nuendo and of course SID XL...

So, if you do not already own it, you need to buy it, either at your local music store or at www.scarbee.com altogether with you SID XL library.

Best regards,

Simone Coen

Simone
11-23-2005, 03:25 PM
And I want to thank the guys for the positive comments on the original SID compared to DFHS and BFD. If you loved SID you'll die for SID XL ;)

It feels great to sit in the same row as the best competitors one could dream of while watching you guys creating the music for the 21st century!

Best regards,

Simone Coen

Houston Haynes
11-23-2005, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the replies to my question. Argh - now the question is, can I justify spending another $250 on software...

Dude - this is not just "software" - this is probably the most exhaustively sampled drum kit in existance. You should compare the $250 for this virtual instrument to the cost of buying and mic'ing your own kit, renting and recording a kit, or paying a player to bring in a kit and record that. *ALL* of those options are more expensive (and to a certain degree, more troublesome) than SID (or SID XL, presumably). To think of this as "another software" is short-changing it - at least that's the way that I propose it to the CFO of my studio (my wife). :cool:

FredProgGH
11-23-2005, 05:50 PM
Agreed- not to keep bringing up the competitor but DFHS is hands down, no doubt period the most useful and cost-effective music software I have ever bought and this should rank right with it. For around $500 (a little more and throw in C&V as well) you can have two or even three fully operational drum environments recorded in world-class studios by world-class engineers with their own individual sounds, mixable like the real thing. It's amazing. IMO everything Scarbee does is amazingly musical and playable so this ought to really rock.

So, what about that drum and bass bundle :D :D

ed hamilton
11-23-2005, 08:58 PM
Dear Thomas,

Great to hear about the new XL version.

Huge bummer for me since I JUST BOUGHT the old one.
It literally arrived today!!!!

ouch.

Doug Wellington
11-24-2005, 12:56 AM
Hey, I've got two questions:

1) Is the $149 upgrade price a pre-order price, or will that always be the price? (I ordered SID during the birthday sale, and it hasn't actually arrived here, so I don't know what my serial number is yet...)

2) Will I be able to use "Imperial BFD" with SID-XL?

Thanks!
Doug

Houston Haynes
11-24-2005, 01:03 AM
2) Will I be able to use "Imperial BFD" with SID-XL?

"Imperial BFD" is a confusion of two products. SCARBEE Imperial Drums is a sample library, often referred to as "SID". BFD is a separate product. SID XL is the new product that is based on the original SID, but is 5X larger and is wrapped in the HALion player engine.

Simone
11-24-2005, 01:15 AM
Hey, I've got two questions:

1) Is the $149 upgrade price a pre-order price, or will that always be the price? (I ordered SID during the birthday sale, and it hasn't actually arrived here, so I don't know what my serial number is yet...)

2) Will I be able to use "Imperial BFD" with SID-XL?

Thanks!
Doug

Hi Doug...

1) the 149$ 'should' be the upgrade price now and later... but ask Thomas... he is the banker ;)

2) Nope: the samples are encrypted using the Steinberg code, there is a thread about that at the fxpansion forum at kvr: I am afraid it will not be possible...

Best regards,

Simone

Simone
11-24-2005, 01:17 AM
Dear Thomas,

Great to hear about the new XL version.

Huge bummer for me since I JUST BOUGHT the old one.
It literally arrived today!!!!

ouch.

Hi Ed!

Congratulations for your new 'baby'...

I hope you'll think about getting XL too after playing with the original SID...

Best,

Simone Coen

Doug Wellington
11-24-2005, 01:30 AM
"Imperial BFD" is a confusion of two products.I take it that you didn't know Imperial BFD was a download from fxpansion that lets you use SID samples in BFD? Similar to BFD From Hell...


SID XL is the new product that is based on the original SID, but is 5X larger and is wrapped in the HALion player engine.Yeah, the new player is why I asked. I have both HALion2 and HALion3. When I realized that HAL3 used the dongle, I got disgusted and didn't even install it...

Doug

Doug Wellington
11-24-2005, 01:49 AM
the samples are encrypted using the Steinberg code, there is a thread about that at the fxpansion forum at kvr: I am afraid it will not be possible...OK, I hate dongles, but I also understand that there is a perceived need for them...

Can I have both SID and SID XL installed at the same time, but separately?

Thanks again,
Doug

Simone
11-24-2005, 01:55 AM
I cannot stand dongles either.... but there are 8 of them attached to my Mac now!!!!!!!!!!!! and another one is hanging there (my second logic license)...

Not counting all the other dongles I had the time and luck to trasnfer licenses to the other 7....

Geeezzz....

Yes you can keep both products installed at the same time...

Best,

Simone Coen

Doug Wellington
11-24-2005, 02:15 AM
I cannot stand dongles either.... but there are 8 of them attached to my Mac now!!!!!!!!!!!!Eeek! I thought I had it bad, but I "only" have five dongles on my Mac. Sigh...


Yes you can keep both products installed at the same time...Good. Seems like that allows a lot of flexibility.

Thanks...

OK, I better get to bed - have to start the turkey early in the morning!

SCARBEE
11-24-2005, 02:16 AM
Hi Doug...

1) the 149$ 'should' be the upgrade price now and later... but ask Thomas... he is the banker ;)

2) Nope: the samples are encrypted using the Steinberg code, there is a thread about that at the fxpansion forum at kvr: I am afraid it will not be possible...

Best regards,

Simone

Yes - $149 is standard all-time upggrade price.

SCARBEE
11-24-2005, 03:26 AM
Hi,

We just made an UPGRADE 2 price of $99:

Upgrade 2 is for Scarbee Imperial Drums owners who ordered BETWEEN September 1, 2005 and 23 November, 2005.:)

kubamajer
11-24-2005, 08:49 AM
Yeah!
Just preordered Upgrade 2. Bought SID in october 2005, so I qualify..http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif.
Thanks for that bid.

Regards,
Kuba

steff3
11-24-2005, 09:57 AM
Hello,

one question? How is the organisation of the content? I think it is coded into several HSB (or how they are called)? Is it per unit? (e.g. hihat 14, hihat13, "that kind of company" snare 13, etc.) ?

46 is quite a lot even for modern - sample-lib-plagued - HDs.

best

Doug Wellington
11-24-2005, 12:21 PM
We just made an UPGRADE 2 price of $99:How can I turn down an offer like that???

Today is definitely Thanksgiving day! Thank you, thank you...

Doug

ed hamilton
11-24-2005, 11:06 PM
"we just made an UPGRADE 2 price of $99:

Upgrade 2 is for Scarbee Imperial Drums owners who ordered BETWEEN September 1, 2005 and 23 November, 2005."

Thomas, you and your company are a class act.
You just earned my credit card number again. And lucky for you there is still room on it!

many thanks!

Simone
11-25-2005, 02:28 AM
Hello,

one question? How is the organisation of the content? I think it is coded into several HSB (or how they are called)? Is it per unit? (e.g. hihat 14, hihat13, "that kind of company" snare 13, etc.) ?

46 is quite a lot even for modern - sample-lib-plagued - HDs.

best

Hi Steff3,

it is coded into several HSBs and it is divided by drum unit... DW BD, Ludwig BD... in some cases (where the content file size would have been prohibitive both in terms of GB and of numberf of programs) we divided a drum by beater type: Sticks, Brushes, Mallets...

A complete list of the programs, drums and beater/sticks will be available for download later...

Well... 46 is not exact: the HSB files size amounts to 47.11 GB in the infos on my Mac... and you do not need to have them all installed at once.

Best regards,

Simone Coen

Ray Lindsley
11-27-2005, 11:03 AM
Quick question- I have a Steinberg dongle for Cubase SX, but have not upgraded tyo Halion 3 yet, still using Hal 2 (I'll upgrade soon). My question is will the Dongle for Cubase SX work with XL or do I need the Halion 3 dongle (I don't know if they are different).
Thanks

Simone
11-27-2005, 06:15 PM
Quick question- I have a Steinberg dongle for Cubase SX, but have not upgraded tyo Halion 3 yet, still using Hal 2 (I'll upgrade soon). My question is will the Dongle for Cubase SX work with XL or do I need the Halion 3 dongle (I don't know if they are different).
Thanks

You do not need a new dongle... the SX2 dongle will be fine for both your HALion 3 and for SID XL content + player...

Best,

Simone Coen

Simone
11-27-2005, 06:18 PM
For anybody that has both, how do the Imperial Drums XL samples compare to Larry Seyer's product?

Lee Blaske

Hi Lee,

I hope someone will post her/his thoughts about this...

but right now I can tell you there is really a few people using SID XL samples (me, Thomas and the testers) and I am afraid nobody else than myself owns LSD (!!!)...

I love LSD, this is one of my fav drum collections... I hope people will love my drums too ;)

Best regards,

Simone Coen

Simone
11-27-2005, 06:20 PM
Thomas should have a PDF document where you might find some more infos on the SID XL release...

Please ask him!

;)

Best,

Simone

SCARBEE
11-28-2005, 02:21 AM
Quick question- I have a Steinberg dongle for Cubase SX, but have not upgraded tyo Halion 3 yet, still using Hal 2 (I'll upgrade soon). My question is will the Dongle for Cubase SX work with XL or do I need the Halion 3 dongle (I don't know if they are different).
Thanks

If you have a Steinberg key (Cubase, Nuendo etc) you can use that key.

SCARBEE
11-28-2005, 03:44 AM
Hi,

You can now download a pdf with info about SID XL release at our website.

Or get it here right now: www.scarbee.com/products/sidxl/SID_XL_Release_Info.pdf (http://www.scarbee.com/products/sidxl/SID_XL_Release_Info.pdf)

as zip:

www.scarbee.com/products/sidxl/SID_XL_Release_Info.zip (http://www.scarbee.com/products/sidxl/SID_XL_Release_Info.zip)

enjoy:|:

Joey
11-28-2005, 05:49 AM
Hi Thomas, and thankyou for the opportunity to enter into this new phase of Scarbee products and thankyou for your hard work and dedication to give us musicians and composers the tools to make great music.

I so want to be part of your new product....I do...but I must tell you my story and my grief with the Halion Player 3.2 I run Logic 7.1 with Mac G5 1.8 Dual. Most plugs have been fine with their usual teething and authorisation dramas. But they ALL work eventually. However and not by any means denegrating Project Sam products because I own most of them and love them...but the True Strike Starter and Halion Player with 3.2 (Mac updates included) with Logic 7 is an absolute dog. I had to return the product as it was for me unusable. Steinberg support NEVER and I repeat NEVER returned emails to me. Maarten from Project Sam was the only guy that was helpful, he tried his very best to help me.i tried everything he told me. I gave up. NOW I so want to be part of this new product...but please tell me is it stable with Logic 7 or am I wasting my time? I dont want to spend $299 to find out that I've wasted my money and like all professionals we make music not spend endless hours trying to get a product to work...it's just not right. Sorry if I sound angry but I spent a valuable week's time and got nowhere with Halion Player last time....will it happen again...??

As I said no offence to Maarten or yourself or your products... Maarten was very helpful as I'm sure you would be...I just need answers of honesty.

Will Imperial XL work for me?

Thanks.

SCARBEE
11-28-2005, 05:52 AM
Hi Joey,

I certainly hope it will work for you. The 3.2 version you HAVE tried was an unsupported pre-release version and the version we will ship with SIDXL is a much later version. Simone is on mac and uses logic so he can probably tell you that it is working nicely!

You need OSX 10.4.3 or later.

Joey
11-28-2005, 06:29 AM
Thomas Grazie, thankyou for your quick reply and I will pre order and organise OSX 10.4.3 as I am running 10.3.9 OSX...hopefully this will do the trick.

Congratulations on your release and best of luck to you.

Joey

Ray Lindsley
11-28-2005, 09:54 AM
I read the pdf file on the XL and it looks impressive. I really love the DW kit from the original version and I would like to know more about how that has changed. It sounds like it's been reprogrammed, but I was interested to know if there are know right and left hand tom samples and any additional mic options, or if maybe there is a new DW kit. ALso more info on the other new drums would be interesting.
Thanks,
Ray

Simone
11-28-2005, 10:03 AM
Man, you are asking too much!

Just kidding...

there is a new DW BD, which is actually same model as the 22x18 we sampled on "classic": it has a different edge, tuning and micing...

We used two sets of Mics... one with AKG/Neumann and another one with AT2500 (two capsules in one) so you cann choose... Also the AMB and OH mics change (AKG/GT and AKG/AKG two models)The Toms were rerecorded also (the stick versions only) with one more tom (the 8") and different Mics and overheads/AMB combinations...

The sounds are very different from original SID so we decided to keep them both... ;)

Also: the Ludwig Vistalite is a completely new set... as are the Stereo versions... I admit these are the ones I have most fun with now..,

The Midi Groove Files use the VDrums mapping so you will be able to use any premade VDrums based midi file available on the market

Best regards,

Simone Coen

Simone
11-28-2005, 10:07 AM
The new Toms also feature the L/R hits... but they are simply a new technique made with the Flam hits... so they work in both situations...

All in all there is a completely new DW kit... ;) ... similar sound but very different depths...

The new Toms also have more velocities to them...

There is so much to this lib that I am having an hard time trying to shrink all the infos in a readable manual ;) and don't forget the Quicktime movies... if Thomas has enough bandwidth we will publish some of them on the website...

Best,

Simone

Ray Lindsley
11-28-2005, 10:53 AM
Gotta have it! The Vistalite kit sounds cool- those things have an enormous sound!
Thanks for the info.

kubamajer
11-28-2005, 11:12 AM
Hello
Just a bit anxious http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif..
I'm curious what "5 new snares" exactly means?
Are there 5 new, differrent snares recorded? Or eg. 2 new ones, but with varied tunings?

Thanks, Kuba

Simone
11-28-2005, 02:28 PM
Hello
Just a bit anxious http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif..
I'm curious what "5 new snares" exactly means?
Are there 5 new, differrent snares recorded? Or eg. 2 new ones, but with varied tunings?

Thanks, Kuba

Snares are:

Ludwig vintage
Ludwig vintage with blanket over the skin (the late '70/'80 trademark sound)
Premier
Remo Piccolo
YMH Cocktail

Add these to the SID classics:
Ludwig
Ludwig Low tuned
DW
YMH9000 series birch

Best regards,

Simone Coen

kubamajer
11-28-2005, 02:56 PM
Super! Sounds very cool :D. Thanks Simone.

Best, Kuba

Len
11-28-2005, 03:12 PM
The Midi Groove Files use the VDrums mapping so you will be able to use any premade VDrums based midi file available on the market



Hi Simone

Sorry for this probably stupid question, but since there are no examples of MIDI Groove files on the Scarbee site, I have to ask :)

Are the MIDI Groove files quantised? I hope not, because then that takes away the life of the groove, if you see what I mean.

Because I am not a drummer, MIDI Groove files are very useful to me, and would be quite an important consideration in deciding whether to purchase SID XL.

Cheers

Len
www.lenmusic.com

Simone
11-28-2005, 03:22 PM
Of course they are not quantized!

Why asking a top class drummer to play then otherwise? I am better than him at making up grooves... ;) ... just kidding...

I only edited the midi files so that they are 'clean' from erroneous triggerings from the TD20 Kit...

You will also be able to use with SID XL any free or commercial grooves available played in the VDrums Midi format (which is very similar to GM standard anyway)...

Best regards,

Simone