Problems with JABB electric guitars

[Larry G. Alexander]

This is directed to Tom Hopkins or anyone else who can help:

The JABB electric guitars play random notes, i.e. they play what THEY want to play and not what LARRY wants them to play. This happens when I try to sequence them with Sonar 3 in Kontakt 2. In other words, they don't play my written notes...they play random notes. :confused: None of the other samples act in this manner.

Also, both of these guitars have an incredibly long decay time. How do I adjust that?

Has anyone else had these problems? Does anyone know a solution?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Larry Alexander

[Houston Haynes]

Make sure that your instance of guitar is not set to "Omni" - that it's receiving notes from only one MIDI channel.

Also - there is a controller for "length" - try CC21 - I think it's explained in the manual, but don't have it open in front of me. I have put up a copy of a PDF doc I created that lists a table of the controller assignments. You might find it useful as a cheat sheet. Check out the Tips and Tricks forum - I have a thread there about a Generic MIDI controller for JABB in Cubase - the reference to the PDF file is at the bottom of my post.

OOPs - just noticed that it wasn't moved to the JABB Tips forum - here's the thread http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40009

Check the bottom of the post.

[Richard N.]

Larry, I don't know if any of these are connected to your problem:

1. In K2, you need to manully load the info form the tect file associated with each instrument to get the correct default settings (these text files are read and loaded automatically by the JABB kontakt player).
2. The sustain pedal switches the guitar to play open strings only - so the notes in between do not play.
3. The keyswitch for harmonics obviously reduces the range of the instruments if accidently hit.

Good luck :)

[Tom Hopkins]

I was away for the day and read this one when I got back tonight. Wow, there's no need for me around here - these guys supply the same answers I would give! Now I can retire!

Tom

[Larry G. Alexander]

Thank you Richard, Houston and Tom for all of the information. I'm getting there...slowly but surely. :D

Regards,

Larry A.

[Larry G. Alexander]

Larry, I don't know if any of these are connected to your problem:

1. In K2, you need to manully load the info form the tect file associated with each instrument to get the correct default settings (these text files are read and loaded automatically by the JABB kontakt player).
2. The sustain pedal switches the guitar to play open strings only - so the notes in between do not play.
3. The keyswitch for harmonics obviously reduces the range of the instruments if accidently hit.

Good luck :)

How do you "...manually load the info from the tech file associated with each instrument to get the correct default settings..."?

I can't find this in the manuals. :(

Thanks,

Larry A.

[Tom Hopkins]

How do you "...manually load the info from the tech file associated with each instrument to get the correct default settings..."?You must place MIDI controller data at the beginning of the MIDI tracks in your sequencer to tell Kontakt what the default settings should be for a given instrument. The kind of controller data depends upon the instrument. If you wish to load one of the horns, you will need to open that instrument's corresponding text file, see if any of the values are set higher than "0." Most wind instruments have cc21 (length control) set to a value of ".5." This translates to a MIDI value of 64 (on a scale of 0 to 127.) Usually, that will mean putting a single piece of cc21 = 64 data at the beginning of the horn track but if you encounter any odd behavior you may need to place "0" values for cc20, cc22, and cc23, as well. The structure of the text files was explained in the update documentation for GPO. JABB uses the same structure. Here's that section of the documentation concerning text files:
Instrument Default Text Files

Most users will never need to deal with these text files but advanced users who like to customize may wish to make modifications. For those users, here is an explanation of this new feature: Each instrument now has a corresponding text file that specifies the naming of player knobs and default load settings for these knobs. The text files are located in the instrument folders. Each file’s name is identical to the instrument it controls except for the .txt extension. A text file can be opened by double-clicking on it. Here are the contents of a typical text file:

Porta
Length
VAR 1
VAR 2
--
0
.5
0
0
0

The first five lines supply names to the knobs; the second five lines supply the values in corresponding order. In the example above, the first four lines have knob names; the fifth line has a pair of dashes because the fifth knob is unused in this instrument; and the sixth through tenth lines have values for the knobs. The sixth line has a "0" because portamento is turned off by default upon load. The seventh line sets the length control to .5 (on a scale of 0 to 1) and all other controls are set to "0." If the user wished to have this instrument load with a slightly longer "length" time the value of line seven could be increase somewhat.

Tom

[mistahamma]

The JABB electric guitars play random notes, i.e. they play what THEY want to play and not what LARRY wants them to play.

This is the just the nature of guitarists, they always behave this way! You'll also find that they start noodling around whenever there's a quiet part... :)

Jim

[cptexas]

This is the just the nature of guitarists, they always behave this way! You'll also find that they start noodling around whenever there's a quiet part... :)

Jim
Exactly!
It's just another great feature of JABB!! :D
This truely adds to JABB's immense realism. The guitarists do whatever they want!
I think there is a drummer plugin that speeds up the tempo when you least expect it too... :rolleyes:

[Larry G. Alexander]

This is the just the nature of guitarists, they always behave this way! You'll also find that they start noodling around whenever there's a quiet part... :)

Jim

Git-tar players are mostly wierd, aren't they. :D

LGA

[Larry G. Alexander]

Thanks, Mr. Tom, for the information concerning the instrument text files.

LGA

[Wheat Williams]

This is the just the nature of guitarists, they always behave this way! You'll also find that they start noodling around whenever there's a quiet part...

How do you get an electric guitarist to turn his amp way down? Put sheet music in front of him.

[mistahamma]

How do you get an electric guitarist to turn his amp way down? Put sheet music in front of him.

Ha! That would be even funnier if it didn't ring so true... :) If only more guitarists would learn to read music! when I was teaching bass guitar, I used to force my students to learn to read real sheet music, not TAB-- they really hated it in the beginning, but realized the importance and usefulness of it later on.

Chord symbols...where are the freakin' chord symbols?!

Jim