OT: is this some other melody or am I brain farting?

[KingIdiot]

I was fooling around with a cue idea, but the main piano melody seems like I may have heard it before. I cant place it, was just wondering if anyone has heard it or hears what I'm hearing

http://www.brokenbydefault.net/orch/ashpianothingy.mp3

and no I'm not really keeping that ending, I've got another few movements I hear that I want to flesh out tonally.

[Marcussen]

Nope... can't say I have heard it. So so far so good :)

[Scott Cairns]

Passed my test King, it doesnt remind me of anything. :)

I think that its just a familiar scale and chord changes here and there.

[Mike Greene]

Sounds clean to me. Nice sounding cue, by the way.

- Mike Greene

[linwood]

Yea...the Cm7 piano roll sounds like Back Stabbers by The Ojays just before the band hits....just kiddin'

[KingIdiot]

OK

thanks for the listens all

I think you're right Scott. Its familiar but I cant place it. I was talking to Tob earlier, and sometimes familiar is a good thing.

I've obviously commited to it a bit, but it was nagging at me as I listened to it more.

linwood

A-HA I KNEW IT!! time to dump it!! ;)

Speaking of the piano rolls, is this the right technique here?. I mean I'm not a piano player AT ALL, so I wonde if I should be letting off the pedal more often, or that is considered bad technique, or .. I dunno...

[linwood]

Sounds like you're rollin' just fine to me. Don't dump it! I was just teasein'. When I heard that cm7 come around, it just took me there. I was hearing, "They're smilin' in your face",... I think it's even in that key. Once you play those tunes for a while, there always with ya.

[carlmsmith]

I don't hear anything derivative- just maybe the next theme song for Twin Peaks if they ever revive that series!

Carl

[Brian2112]

Sometimes I think, when something sounds familiar, it is because it is the logical conclusion of what ever motifs have been kicking around in your head for a while. Familiar IS good becuase sometimes that is the IT that makes the HIT:D . But Yea, it's nice to check to be safe.
I know this feeling. It can drive me nuts sometimes (well...more nuts than usual);) :D .

...2112:)

[mirage]

I don't hear the melody as something from another song, but the interaction of the melody and that first chord reminds me of a bunch of things in vague ways...

If the melody was more staccato against that first chord (and you had a Motown beat going), it would fit in with a bunch of Bacharach stuff. It also reminds me of the structure of that one section of "Downtown" by Petula Clark....the notes don't follow, but it reminds me of the structure. The melody against that chord also reminds me of "In This Cold World" by Sammy Davis Jr. Why? I dunno. I haven't heard that song in decades, but it immediately came to mind when I heard that melody on that chord.

So it reminds me of lots of things, yet sounds like nothing.

Which string library are you using on this?

[Tomke]

I was fooling around with a cue idea, but the main piano melody seems like I may have heard it before. I cant place it ..
I agree with Brian2112 here. I think this is one of the best comments a tune or composition can get - especially from someone who doesn't know it's fresh piece. If someone tells me they must have heard it before but can't place it, that tells me I'm home. After a while I started to to follow that feeling myself when I do a song and I still do. If it feels familiar, I go for it. I've never really made sort of a half-duplicate by accident when going for that feeling, so I say go for it. :D

[Nick Batzdorf]

I think it's some other melody AND you're brain farting.

:n: :|: :n:

[FredProgGH]

I agree with Brian2112 here. I think this is one of the best comments a tune or composition can get - especially from someone who doesn't know it's fresh piece. If someone tells me they must have heard it before but can't place it, that tells me I'm home.

I agree too, and that's why I always strive to derive my melodies from familiar yet vague sources, which is of itself an artform. And then edit them enough to evade lawsuits of course. (Cue Stravinsky quote)



:D

BTW, KI, in all seriousness your melody didn't set off any bells for me and I can usually spot them pretty quick. And it's a nice piece too, so far!

[BMusik]

Reminds me of Philipp Glass "The Hours" soundtrack

[johnamriding]

Liszt's "Un Sospiro" etude, one of the three Concert Etudes. I'm not saying that the melody is anything like Liszt's but the accompaniment is very reminiscent.

[JonFairhurst]

Yes King,

I wrote that years ago. My lawyers will be contacting your lawyers.

Just keeedink! :|:

-JF

[Hardy Heern]

I don't recognise anything in it. There's a lot of tension in the piece with all those wrong notes and all............:confused: Still, if it's good enough for Ravel, it can't be bad:) It's got something about it.

Frank

[KingIdiot]

hey all,

I agree with most of the points about familiarity somehoe making it "right", this isnt always the case but for me theres a "pop music" sensebility to my approach to writing. Not to say that I want a "hit" but I like to have music accessable to alot of people and usually the "familiarity" means I'm on the write track. Still, I also find myself falling into playing melodies I might have heard somewhere, even by something as small as changing the mode...it happens. There are lucky moments tho, I ahve written a few motifs that have been hanging around for a while that almost everyone says "thats a really good theme". I jsut never had enough music theory to build it up or support it enough to take it further back them. I want to go back to those and do some new arrangements.

My theory is still REALLY bad, but I'm getting better (I hope). I find I'm pretty comfortable falling back on rock n roll and prog rock roots and doing the "chord/melody" thing, but when I stray from that, into even more jazzier stuff I get a little lost.

Mirage,

thats actually what I was hearing something really 70'sish in it. Maybe It'll be perfect for a documentary from the 70's about a salmon swimming upstream.. I dunno.

The strings are Sonic Implants BTW, some light adustments on velocity response and all I as doing was trying a library I hadnt used lately in Kontakt converted from Giga. Sorta testing things out. It could sound much better actually balanced, atleast to my ears.

Nick,

you know theres a store out in Berkley called the dark entry that ahs some shuriken for sale,...I'll have to get some to defend myself against your ninja (never ceases to amaze me the type of names some stores come up with, the logo involves S&M, ... cue eye roll here :) )

Jon,

I'll have my layers contact your lawyers nd contact He-Man to send Cringer out to get some bagels and cream cheese, and they can hash it out, of course until someone realizes Cringer brought in Salmon flavored Crea cheese that's been going old, in which case too much time will pass for them to figure things out and I'll make off with tons of dough....

bagel dough that is..

Hardy, I dont think there are that many "wrong" notes. There are a couple places where minor seconds show up, but those are intentional (I'm a big fan of planned dissonance, but I someties find I write myself into unplanned dissonance when I'm trying new things). I am having a problem with the different counterpoints tho. I started with a cool cello counter point but it was just too much of a "harmony" and felt bad when I tried to put anything else in, so I forced it to work when I added the violin/viola thing with the slow ostinato type pattern on the second violins. I thikn the main problem I'm having is that all the counterpoints are in the same range, so its getting muddy.

This is definitely a stretch in style for me, so theres going to be alot of picking at it here and there, changing little things, to make it work its best.

I'll return to my regularly scheduled rock n roll orchestra soon.

[jc5]

I think your safe. It is a tad remeniscent of one of Mendelssohn's Songs without Words, but not overly so.
A nice begining, with a good warm 'feeling' to it. I look forward to seeing where you take it.