House?

[Troels]

The order was for house without the heavy beat.
This is what I came up with:

http://www.troelsoxenvad.com/music/House_1.mp3

Done with Reason, Reaktor and SONAR.

All feedback appreciated.

[Olen]

What is "house"? I don't understand your reference.

[Troels]

What is "house"? I don't understand your reference.
I don't know much about it myself, but house (afaik) is a music style with a heavy pumping drum beat, designed to stir up crowds of teenagers on extacy.

[Troels]

Allright, free blow job to the first reviewer!

[Doug Wellington]

Are you my type? (Or is it just April fool's day?)

[geronimo001]

You crazy man.:D

[FrozeN]

Can I request one collection of VSL's VI instead of a blow job if I write a review? Business before pleasure! :D

Actually it sounds quite nice to me, though I think it might be too deep (dark) to be a *general* house. I guess that's just a term and means nothing. :p What I mean is your piece doesn't sound to me too fit with a "heavy pumping beat" if that's what you intended. Instead it sounds more "trance-y" (trippy) even without the beats as like some dude is gonna pass out at 4:00am from overdosing... :D I quite like the "vocoder" effects too, or if that's another effect but sounds like so to me. Perhaps you could add more of those in your track? It's one of the most welcomed effects (albeit cliche'd) in house music... I think. ;) But anyway, I enjoyed the overall consistant dark tone.

OK I am sending you my postal addressing now, even though I know what I wrote might not be anything helpful at all.... :p

Cheers,
Frankie

EDIT : I just realized you are a Garageband-er too. I basically quit there becoz of poor staff response/maintenance.

[Olen]

Okay, nevermind. I don't need an answer to my more than reasonable question. I listened to this "house" piece and am really not the least bit interested in learning anything more. I've heard enough.

[Troels]

Okay, nevermind. I don't need an answer to my more than reasonable question. I listened to this "house" piece and am really not the least bit interested in learning anything more. I've heard enough.

Fair enough, but I think you missed the third post in this thread...

[MikeNovy]

The order was for house...

sorry man, but this is definitely NOT house music. House music was a definition for music which was played in Chicago (?) in a gays' club many years ago and is nowadays one of the best music styles for dancing in clubs.

House music is more disco like with a warm base line and smooth drums, like this example found in the net:

http://www.inlounge.de/e107_files/downloads/marks_superfool(low).mp3



In your case it is just "experimental"

[ohernie]

I don't know much about it myself, but house (afaik) is a music style with a heavy pumping drum beat, designed to stir up crowds of teenagers on extacy.

House was around long before ecstasy was popular. I recorded a guy doing some back in the early 80's. In my case it was created by recording about 5 minutes of different rhythmic motifs, essentially loops, and then playing the mutes on the board. How you could do this without a "heavy pumping drum beat" is beyond me.

It sounds like your client is mis-applying the term. Given that, your piece cannot be judged in terms of house and only the client can decide if it's what they want and are mistakingly called house. I'm not an expert but I'm fairly certain that if you took your piece down to Chicago, where house originated, you'd be in trouble. I have no problem with the piece but to my ears it's nowhere near house music. There's far too much development. If it's the house music I remember it should be extremely repetitive.

Side question: who's your website host? I couldn't believe how fast the file downloaded.

Ernie

[ohernie]

sorry man, but this is definitely NOT house music. House music was a definition for music which was played in Chicago (?) in a gays' club many years ago and is nowadays one of the best music styles for dancing in clubs.

House music is more disco like with a warm base line and smooth drums, like this example found in the net:

http://www.inlounge.de/e107_files/downloads/marks_superfool(low).mp3

In your case it is just "experimental"

Sounds like disco to me. This sample is closer to what I remember:

http://www.utexas.edu/features/2006/house/audio/House.mp3

Ernie

[MikeNovy]

Sounds like disco to me. This sample is closer to what I remember:

http://www.utexas.edu/features/2006/house/audio/House.mp3

Ernie



this was House music like in the beginning. But about 10 years it turns into some disco like. I know this fact very well, since I owned a house label in Germany. ;)

[Mosquito]

Sounds like disco to me. This sample is closer to what I remember:

http://www.utexas.edu/features/2006/house/audio/House.mp3

Ernie
Bah. That sounds like some casio keyboard or maybe the first house track produced. MikeNovy's example is a perfect example of House in 2006, or rather a subgenre called Disco house, so you were 1/2 right. You need to follow the times. We've come along way since "chicago house" and "detroit techno" originated.

For more info of different House genres look here http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

It's a bit over the top though, but informative and quite funny.

[Pingu]

The problem with electronic music in general is that noone uses terms consistently - least of all the people making the music. Here in the UK I believe it's more of a problem than anywhere else.

Every group or artist who releases something seems to feel a need to assert that they do not fit in an established genre, and that a new one is going to have to be invented to accomodate their earth-shattering new sound. Countless interviews in magazines have lines like, "Well we're kind of trip-dub punk with a hint of new-wave-acidjazz. We're calling it glitchcore..."

I mean, without wanting to sound offensive, just who the hell do these people think they are? They take an established genre, use a different synth sound and believe they've invented a whole new musical language. Imagine if Beethoven had insisted he'd just reinvented music every time he did something slightly original.

If you are trying to make sense of the whole minefield, though, the Ishkur Guide, which Mosquito mentioned, is great.

[Troels]

Can I request one collection of VSL's VI instead of a blow job if I write a review? Business before pleasure! :D

Actually it sounds quite nice to me, though I think it might be too deep (dark) to be a *general* house. I guess that's just a term and means nothing. :p What I mean is your piece doesn't sound to me too fit with a "heavy pumping beat" if that's what you intended. Instead it sounds more "trance-y" (trippy) even without the beats as like some dude is gonna pass out at 4:00am from overdosing... :D I quite like the "vocoder" effects too, or if that's another effect but sounds like so to me. Perhaps you could add more of those in your track? It's one of the most welcomed effects (albeit cliche'd) in house music... I think. ;) But anyway, I enjoyed the overall consistant dark tone.

OK I am sending you my postal addressing now, even though I know what I wrote might not be anything helpful at all.... :p

Cheers,
Frankie

EDIT : I just realized you are a Garageband-er too. I basically quit there becoz of poor staff response/maintenance.

Thanks Frankie! My generous offer had to do with the fact that yesterday was April 1st, sorry.
The client needed House WIThOUT the pumping beat which I now understand is like asking for a Walz in 4/4....

I wasn't too impressed with Garageband either.

[Troels]

Side question: who's your website host? I couldn't believe how fast the file downloaded.

Ernie

Thanks Ernie. I'm using Readyhosting. It's pretty reliable and you get 1GB
for around $100 a year.

[Troels]

Are you my type? (Or is it just April fool's day?)

It's the second option..;-)

[Troels]

sorry man, but this is definitely NOT house music. House music was a definition for music which was played in Chicago (?) in a gays' club many years ago and is nowadays one of the best music styles for dancing in clubs.

House music is more disco like with a warm base line and smooth drums, like this example found in the net:

http://www.inlounge.de/e107_files/downloads/marks_superfool(low).mp3



In your case it is just "experimental"

Thanks for clearing that up!

[MikeNovy]

Thanks for clearing that up!


u'r welcome :-)

[Doug Wellington]

It's the second option..;-)
Thought so...

...bummer... :D

[ohernie]

To those who corrected me - thanks. I figured my info was old but I also didn't think the music could have lost so much nitty gritty over the years. Thanks for the update.

Ernie