Old lady/C7/White grand & PCP-80 problem!

[seacave]

Hi there,

I wondered has anyone else noticed this? :

When playing OLD lady or vintaudio C7 or White grand or the recent PCP-80 group buy piano - they all have the same flaw inside Halion 3, which (for me) makes them unplayable..

With the sustain pedal held down - each repeated note cuts off its predecessor - as if there was a polyphony problem, when there isn't.
(Athlon 3.2gig 939 and 2gigs of DDR + Saffire soundcard and Yamaha p120 controlling).

i.e. - if you hit a loud note (say velocity 100 or so) and then play the same note quietly (e.g. 30-40), the first note cuts suddenly off when the second is played - ff to pp in a millisecond!
When a REAL piano (or even my p120!) is played - the first loud note rings on, and the second quiet one softly plays underneath - when the sustain is held down of course.

It's a bit like hitting a bell hard then tapping it, and the first rings disappears.!
Not that an analogy is needed :)
SO! (and thanks if you are still reading) - is this a Halion problem? Is it the programming?

Please help, because only my p120 and "Thegrand 2" are playable.
Thanks for reading!
Gavin

[Bo Clausen]

Hey Gavin

This is very easy to fix.
On the Sound Page > in the Grouping area > Overlap.
Also see p. 116 in the PDF manual.

We are talking Halion 3 here ?

Best Regards
Bo

[seacave]

Bo!!!

You are a genius!
I cannot thank you enough!!

I was using halion player - and there's nothing you can do about the problem there - but then I loaded in the Halion 3 demo and tried your setting and it worked beautifully :)

I'm going to see if I can find a similar setting in VSampler3.52, to save me having to buy the upgrade to Halion 3.
I feel that Halion Player is rubbish now - it claims to be able to import Halion 3 files but it can't - unless I can resave the halion files and then they'll work in Halion Player!?
I'll try and see..

Thanks again Bo,
Gav

[seacave]

Ok
I just tried resaving my adjusted .fxp file and then loading it into Halion Player - and the problem is still there..

i.e. Halion Player cannot take account of "Sound Page > in the Grouping area > Overlap"

- which means it is useless for piano stuff.
Gav

[Bo Clausen]

I don't think the Demo Halion 3 version can save.

If you want I can fix them for you.

Zip the fxp's (not the samples, only the fxp's) and mail them to me.

Bo