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GARRITAN INTERACTIVE

PRINCIPLES OF ORCHESTRATION
by Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov


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Welcome!
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I am pleased to welcome you to this Interactive Edition of "Principles of Orchestration" based upon Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov's celebrated text. Rimsky-Korsakov's genius for orchestration is unsurpassed and there may be no better source to learn about orchestration than to learn from what the great Russian master himself taught.

A well-crafted orchestration is a thing of beauty. It is important for a well-rounded musician to possess a basic knowledge of orchestration. Orchestration is essential for film scoring, composing for interactive games, backgound tracks, arranging, editing, critique, copying (notating), conducting, orchestral performance, score reading, teaching and many musical endeavors.

In this revised internet edition, we have attempted to remain faithful to the original translated text which was written nearly a century ago. In the original written text, the musical examples are referenced and provided in score form taken from Rimsky-Korsakov's own works, but what was lacking was the ability to hear the examples of his works.


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Hear and See the Scores with Real-time Examples

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One of the the most effective ways to learn orchestration is by listening, and simultaneously seeing it on the score. Live playback of the score examples imparts an added dimension, converying concepts far more clearly and immediately than simply viewing what's on a printed page. Rimsky-Korsakov himself recommended: "The best plan is to study full-scores, and listen to an orchestra, score in hand."

In this Interactive Edition we have provided exactly that facility: score excerpts which allow the learner to simultaneously listen and visually follow. Starting with Lesson No. 1, there are some 275 audio enabled scores that are embedded within the relevant portions of the text. In a few cases a substitute or supplemental example was provided if it could better highlight what was being conveyed.

Many of the illustrations were taken from the classic text. We also replaced the complex "Rimsky-Korsakov algebra" with easily understood graphics and added various illustrations for clarification and color. Also, we supplemented the text with dozens of our own exercises to apply the principles and concepts that were taught.


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The ability to hear various orchestral realizations of the different examples from Rimsky-Korsakov’s works, on-demand, is invaluable; and books alone cannot provide this level of instruction.


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Course Structure - Community Learning and Self-Study


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You are in good company with learning orchestration by self-study. This is how the master Rimsky-Korsakov himself learned orchestration! He taught himself orchestration so well, in fact, that he later wrote this book and even taught Prokofiev, Glazunov and Stravinsky. May you reach such heights also!

Here's how it will work. First you read the Lesson. You watch and listen to the various animated score examples to understand the concepts. Then you do the GPO exercises which may include some MIDI files, scores and MP3s that will allow you to experiment and apply what has been taught. We will discuss the lesson on the forum. You can also share your exercises on the forum and get feedback from others. There will be online "professors" who will share their expertise and help guide the discussions.

The "Interactive Principles of Orchestration" will initially be offered on this forum only. The course is expected to consist of between twenty-five and thirty individual lessons. A new lesson will be posted every week. The lessons will be presented in a systematic step-by-step approach as Rimsky-Korsakov approached it in his original text.

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We will approach the material as Rimsky-Korsakov presented it and from his perspective. A lot has changed over the past century with the orchestra. We'll do our best to go in accordance with the text, but we'll also take some interesting excursions on the lesson thread if it will enhance what is being taught. We may update or add supplemental material to elucidate a point.

If you come in late, start with Lesson 1. This course follows a logical order and it best to go sequentially and not race through it. It is important to read, listen, follow the scores and understand the material in one lesson before progressing to the next.The lessons are offered in small segments so it will be easy to digest the material. Each reading and listening example should be completed before advancing. There's an abundance of complex information and it is easy to lose focus -- so stay with it. There should be plenty of resources and people to help.
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Prerequisites

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Rimsky-Korsakov's "Principles of Orchestration" remains a leading orchestration text in many colleges and universities. It is assumed the learner has some necessary basic musical skills including some knowledge of music theory and instrumentation. This course is not for the casual learner or beginning learner and requires a serious commitment.

First it is a pre-requisite that you are able to read music. This course requires following scores and being able to read treble, bass and alto clef is important.

Rimsky-Korsakov assumed the reader had a basic knowledge of the instruments of the orchestra. Instrumentation is only briefly touched upon in the Preliminary chapter. There are excellent courses and books available if you required additional knowledge about the instruments of the orchestra. This course will not cover the later chapters dealing with opera and voice although we may add these chapters later when the choir library is complete.

If you are unsure about your level of proficiency it will not hurt to try some lessons to see if they are right for you. Learn at your own pace and try to supplement your knowledge in areas that are lacking. If you have mastery of material being taught, please try to help others who are learning.

The course is offered free of charge and there is no obligation to buy anything. Although every example was done with Garritan Personal Orchestra, GPO is not required to benefit from this course but it will help with the exercises.

It is essential to have the latest Flash Player in your browser installed in order to see the flash enabled scores. Macromedia has recently released their latest version of the Flash Player Plugin (Version 8). You can download the latest Flash Players here (http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashplayer/).


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To benefit from this course it is recommended for learners to be registered with the forum to post questions or contribute in discussions. You can register to be a member of the Northern Sounds Garritan forum here (http://northernsounds.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=980).


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Some Guidelines


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This will be an open virtual classroom and people should feel free to visit and learn at any time.
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A few guidelines: We are here to learn so please be courteous to others. Constructive criticism is welcomed - especially if it will improve the course and provide for a better education. Encouragement helps learners much more than unbridled negativity. Try to be helpful to others and avoid demeaning less experienced learners. Please do not flame, name-call, banter or disrupt the learning experience for others. This course is offered as a free service and if one is against it for competitive, philosophical, political, religious or psychological reasons; we would rather you do not participate. Just like a bricks and mortar class, disruptive behavior may lead to being suspended or expelled.
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We reserve the right to make changes if circumstances so dictate. We reserve the right to change the dates, change the structure of the course, or to withdraw any part or the entire course at any time.


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Copyright & Terms of Use


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Copyright © 2007, Garritan Corp. All rights reserved.

The Garritan Interactive "Principles of Orchestration" by Rimsky-Korsakov is offered as a courtesy and may be withdrawn at any time. Garritan reserves the right to charge for hardopy and other versions and media of the material. You are allowed to use this material for personal education purposes only. It excludes any commercial use (including professional or promotional uses) without written permission. No image, artwork, score, textual contents, sound files, mp3s, MIDI files or other material on this web site may be copied, reproduced, displayed, altered, posted, transmitted, sold or distributed in whole or in part, or for any purpose other than individual viewing of this web site, without the express prior written consent of Garritan Corp. None of the demos may be copied, reproduced, displayed, altered, posted, transmitted, distributed, or linked in whole or in part, for any purpose other than individual learning without the express prior written consent of Garritan. No part of the materials may be copied for resale or other commercial use, or included with other software, or posted on other public bulletin boards, web sites or online venues without written permission.


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Acknowledgements

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This online course would not have been possible without the help of some very talented and dedicate people. First and foremost thanks to Robert Davis for the Herculean task of realizing and sequencing all the scores with GPO. A big thank you to Alan Belkin for his annotations. Thanks to Sean Hannifin for doing all of the Flash work so that the music follows the score. Thanks to Terry Dwyer, Alan Belkin and Andy Brick for reviewing and serving as the teacher/moderators for the course. Thanks to those who made the various scores in Finale and Sibelius; namely: Bob De Celle, Lukasz Stasinski, Jamie Kowalski, Tim Cohen, Edward J. Fiebke Jr., Dave Budde, Jim Williams, Steve Martin, David Mauney, David O'Rourke, Jonathan Orwig and Tom Prince. Thanks to David Sosnowski for technical guidance. Thanks to Dan Kury for the video editing and realization and Michael Sandberg for illustrations. And thanks to Mark Simon and Dave Burnett for hosting this course on Northern Sounds<o></o>.

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Let the Course Begin...
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<o></o>To offer a well-known course in orchestration, present it with interactive real-time examples, and open the learning process into an online co-operative, is something we are excited about.

Our aim with this online course is to educate musicians about the fundamentals of orchestration in a new and interactive way. This course is initially being offered free of charge and it is our way of giving back to the musical community. I believe that education is more important than just products and we are committed to providing every musician the means to improve their knowledge and skills.

Please spread the word about this extraordinary learning opportunity. Mention it to your friends or on forums, blogs, chats, publications as well as to anyone who would benefit from this course.

I hope you will use these principles of orchestration in your own music and that what you will learn here will benefit you for years to come.

Musically yours,


Gary Garritan


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Course Syllabus
(subject to change)

Welcome to the Garritan Interactive PRINCIPLES OF ORCHESTRATION by Rimsky-Korsakov
Preliminary - GENERAL REVIEW of the Instruments of the Orchestra
Lesson 1 - MELODY - Strings - Melody in Stringed Instruments
Lesson 2 - MELODY - Strings - Grouping in Unison
Lesson 3 - MELODY - Strings - Doubling, Thirds & Sixths
Lesson 4 - MELODY - Wood-wind - Melody in Wood-wind
Lesson 5 - MELODY - Wood-wind - Unison & Octaves
Lesson 6 - MELODY - Brass - Melody, Unisons & Octaves
Lesson 7 - MELODY - Different Groups of Instruments Combined
Lesson 8 - MELODY - Different Groups of Instruments (Cont.)
Lesson 9 - HARMONY - General Observations
Lesson 10 - HARMONY - String Harmony
Lesson 11 - HARMONY - Wood-wind Harmony
Lesson 12 - HARMONY - Wood-wind - Several Parts & Duplication
Lesson 13 - HARMONY - Brass Harmony
Lesson 14 - HARMONY - Combined Groups - Wind & Brass
Lesson 15 - HARMONY - Combined Groups - Wind & Brass (cont.)
Lesson 16 - HARMONY - Combined Groups - Strings & Wind, Three Groups
Lesson 17 - COMPOSITION - Orchestrating the Same Music
Lesson 18 - COMPOSITION - Tutti
Lesson 19 - COMPOSITION - Soli
Lesson 20 - COMPOSITION - Range Limits, Transference, Alternating Chords
Lesson 21 - COMPOSITION - Volume of Tone Qualities, Repetition, Sfz, Emphasis
Lesson 22 - COMPOSITION - Cresencdo and Diminuendo
Lesson 23 - COMPOSITION - Effects, Rhythm & Color
Lesson 24 - VOICE & ORCHESTRA - General Overview

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Editor's Extracts and Comments


Editor's Preface.
Rimsky-Korsakov had long been engrossed in his treatise on orchestration. We have in our possession a thick note book of some 200 pages in fine hand writing, dating from the years 1873-1874, containing a monograph on the question of acoustics, a classification of wind instruments and a detailed description of the construction and fingering of the different kinds of flute, the oboe, clarinet and horn. (1)

In his "Memoirs of my musical life" (15th edition, p. 120) the following passage occurs: "I had planned to devote all my energies to the compilation of a full treatise on orchestration. To this end I made several rough copies, jotting down explanatory notes detailing the technique of different instruments. What I intended to present to the world on this subject, was to include everything. The writing of this treatise, or, to be more exact, the sketch for it took up most of my time in the years 1873 and 1874. After reading the works of Tyndall and Helmholtz, I framed an introduction to my work, in which I endeavoured to expound the laws of acoustics as applied to the principles governing the construction of musical instruments. My manual was to begin with a detailed list of instruments, classified in groups and tabulated, including a description of the various systems in use at the present day. I had not yet thought of the second part of the book which was to be devoted to instruments in combination. But I soon realised that I had gone too far. With wind instruments in particular, the different systems were innumerable, and each manufacturer favoured his own pet theory. By the addition of a certain key the maker endowed his instrument with the possibility of a new trill, and reason of its musical examples, but more especially in the systematic arrangement of material, not according to orchestral division in groups (the method adopted by Gevaert for instance), but according to each constituent of the musical whole, considered separately. The orchestration of melodic and harmonic elements (Chapters II and III) receives special attention, as does the question of orchestration in general (Chapter IV). The last two chapters are devoted to operatic music, and the sixth takes a supplementary form, having no direct bearing on the previous matter.

Rimsky-Korsakov altered the title of his book several times, and his final choice was never made. The title I have selected seems to me to be the one most suitable to the contents of the work, "principles" in the truest sense of the word. Some may expect to find the "secrets" of the great orchestrator disclosed; but, as he himself reminds us in his preface, "to orchestrate is to create, and this is something which cannot be taught."

Yet, as invention, in all art, is closely allied to technique, this book may reveal much to the student of instrumentation. Rimsky-Korsakov has often repeated the axiom that good orchestration means proper handling of parts. The simple use of tone-colours and their combinations may also be taught, but there the science of instruction ends. From these standpoints the present book will furnish the pupil with nearly everything he requires. The author's death prevented him from discussing a few questions, amongst which I would include full polyphonic orchestration and the scoring of melodic and harmonic designs. But these questions can be partly solved by the principles laid down in Chapters II and III, and I have no wish to overcrowd the first edition of this book with extra matter which can be added later, if it is found to be necessary. I had first of all to prepare and amplify the sketches made by Rimsky-Korsakov in 1905; these form a connected summary throughout the whole six chapters. Chapter I was completed by the author; it is published as it stands, save for a few unimportant alterations in style. As regards the other five chapters, I have tried to keep to the original drafts as far as possible, and have only made a few changes in the order, and one or two indispensable additions. The sketches made between 1891 and 1893 were too disconnected to be of much use, but, in point of fact, they corresponded very closely to the final form of the work.

The musical examples are of greater importance. According to the original scheme, as noted on the 1891 MS., they were to be drawn from the works of Glinka and Tschaikovsky; those of Borodin and Glazounov were to be added later. The idea of choosing examples solely from his own works only came to Rimsky-Korsakov by degrees. The reasons for this decision are partly explained in the unfinished preface of 1905, but other motives may be mentioned. If Rimsky-Kcrsakov had chosen his examples from the works of these four composers, he would have had to give some account of their individual, and often strongly marked peculiarities of style. This would have been a difficult undertaking, and then, how to justify the exclusion of West-European composers, Richard Wagner, for example, whose orchestration Rimsky-Korsakov so greatly admired? Besides, the latter could hardly fail to realise that his own compositions afforded sufficient material to illustrate every conceivable manner of scoring, examples emanating from one great general principle. This is not the place to criticise his method; Rimsky-Korsakov's "school" is here displayed, each may examine it for himself. The brilliant, highly-coloured orchestration of Russian composers, and the scoring of the younger French musicians are largely developments of the methods of Rimsky-Korsakov, who, in turn, looked upon Glinka as his spiritual father.

The table of examples found among the author's papers was far from complete; some portions were badly explained, others, not at all. The composer had not mentioned which musical quotations were to be printed in the second volume, and which examples were to indicate the study of the full score, further, no limit was fixed to the length of quotation. All this was therefore left to the editor's discretion. I selected the examples only after much doubt and hesitation, 'finding it difficult to keep to those stipulated by the composer, as every page of the Master's works abound in appropriate instances of this or that method of scoring.

I was guided by the following considerations wiich agreed with the opinions of the author himself: in the first place the examples should be as simple as possible, so as not to distract the student's attention from the point under discussion; secondly, it was necessary that one example should serve to illustrate several sections of the book, and lastly, the majority of quotations should be those mentioned by the author. These amount to 214, in the second volume; the remaining 98 were added by me. They are drawn, as far as possible, from Rimsky-Korsakov's dramatic music, since operatic full-scores are less accessible than those of symphonic works.

At the end of Vol. II I have added three tables showing different ways of scoring full chords; all my additions to the text are marked with asterisks. I consider that the careful study of the examples contained in the second volume will be of the greatest use to the student without replacing the need for the study of other composers' scores. Broadly speaking, the present work should be studied together with the reading of full scores in general.

A few words remain to be said regarding Rimsky-Korsakov's intention to point out the faulty passages in his orchestral works, an intention expressed in his preface to the last edition. The composer often referred to the instructional value of such examinations. His purpose however was never achieved. It is not for me to select these examples, and I shall only mention two which were pointed out by the composer himself: 1. The Legend of Tsar Saltan 220 7th bar—the theme in the brass is not sufficiently prominent the trombones being tacet (a mistake easily rectified); 2. The Golden Cockerel 233 , bars 10—14, if the marks of expression are observed in the brass, the counter-melody on the violas and violoncellos doubled by the wood-wind will hardly be heard. Example 75 may also be mentioned, to which the note on page 63, in the text, refers. I will confine myself to these examples.

In conclusion I desire to express my deep gratitude to Madame Rimsky-Korsakov for having entrusted me with the task of editing this work, thereby providing me with the opportunity of performing a duty sacred to the memory of a master, held so deeply in reverence.

St. Petersburgh, December 1912.

MAXIMILIAN STEINBERG.
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Extract from the Author's Preface (1891).

Our epoch, the post-Wagnerian age, is the age of brilliance and imaginative quality in orchestral tone coloring. Berlioz, Glinka, Liszt, Wagner, modern French composers—Delibes, Bizet and others; those of the new Russian school—Borodin, Balakirev, Glazounov and Tchaikovsky—have brought this side of musical art to its zenith; they have eclipsed, as colorists, their predecessors, Weber, Meyerbeer and Mendelssohn, to whose genius. Nevertheless, they are indebted for their own progress. In writing this book my chief aim has been to provide the well-informed reader with the fundamental principles of modern orchestration from the standpoint of brilliance and imagination, and I have devoted considerable space to the study of tonal resonance and orchestral combination.

I have tried to show the student how to obtain a certain quality of tone, how to acquire uniformity of structure and requisite power. I have specified the character of certain melodic figures and designs peculiar to each instrument or orchestral group, and reduced these questions briefly and clearly to general principles; in short I have endeavored to furnish the pupil with matter and material as carefully and minutely studied as possible. Never~theless I do not claim to instruct him as to how such information should be put to artistic use, nor to establish my examples in their rightful place in the poetic language of music. For, just as a handbook of harmony, counterpoint, or form presents the student with harmonic or polyphonic matter, principles of construction, formal arrangement, and sound technical methods, but will never endow him with the talent for composition, so a treatise on orchestration can demonstrate how to produce a well-sounding chord of certain tone-quality, uniformly distributed, how to detach a melody from its harmonic setting, correct progression of parts, and solve all such problems, but will never be able to teach the art of poetic orchestration. To orchestrate is to create, and this is something which cannot be taught.

It is a great mistake to say: this composer scores well, or, that composition is well orchestrated, for orchestration is part of the very soul of the work. A work is thought out in terms of the orchestra, certain tone-colors being inseparable from it in the mind of its creator and native to it from the hour of its birth. Could the essence of Wagner's music be divorced from its orchestration? One might as well say that a picture is well drawn in colors.

More than one classical and modern composer has lacked the capacity to orchestrate with imagination and power; the secret of color has remained outside the range of his creative faculty. Does it follow that these composers do not know how to orchestrate? Many among them have had greater knowledge of the subject than the mere colorist. Was Brahms ignorant of orchestration? And yet, nowhere in his works do we find evidence of brilliant tone or picturesque fancy. The truth is that his thoughts did not turn towards color; his mind did not exact it.

The power of subtle orchestration is a secret impossible to transmit, and the composer who possesses this secret should value it highly, and never debase it to the level of a mere collection of formula learned by heart.

Here I may mention the case of works scored by others from the composer's rough directions. He who undertakes such work should enter as deeply as he may into the spirit of the composer, try to realize his intentions, and develop them in all their essential features.

Though one's own personality be subordinate to that of another, such orchestration is nevertheless creative work. But on the other hand, to score a composition never intended for the orchestra, is an undesirable practice. Many musicians have made this mistake and persist in it. (1) In any case this is the lowest form of instrumentation, akin to color photography, though of course the process may be well or badly done.

As regards orchestration it has been my good fortune to belong to a first-rate school, and I have acquired the most varied ex~perience. In the first place I have had the opportunity of hearing all my works performed by the excellent orchestra of the St. Peters-burgh Opera. Secondly, having experienced leanings towards different directions, I have scored for orchestras of different sizes, beginning with simple combinations (my opera The May Night is written for natural horns and trumpets), and ending with the most advanced. In the third place, I conducted the choir of the Military Marine for several years and was therefore able to study wind-instruments. Finally I formed an orchestra of very young pupils, and succeeded in teaching them to play, quite competently, the works of Beethoven, Mendelssohn, Glinka, etc. All this has enabled me to present this work to the public as the result of long experience.

As a starting-point I lay down the following fundamental axioms:I. In the orchestra there is no such thing as ugly quality of tone.

II. Orchestral writing should be easy to play; a composer's work stands the best chance when the parts are well written. (1)

III. A work should be written for the size of orchestra that is to perform it, not for some imaginary body, as many composers persist in doing, introducing brass instruments in unusual keys upon which the music is impracticable because it is not played in the key the composer intends.
It is difficult to devise any method of learning orchestration without a master. As a general rule it is best to advance by degrees from the simplest scoring to the most complicated.

The student will probably pass through the following phases: 1. the phase during which be puts his entire faith in percussion instruments, believing that beauty of sound emanates entirely from this branch of the orchestra—this is the earliest stage; 2. the period when he acquires a passion for the harp, using it in every possible chord; 3. the stage during which he adores the wood-wind and horns, using stopped notes in conjunction with strings, muted or pizzicato; 4. the more advanced period, when he has come to recognize that the string group is the richest and most expressive of all. When the student works alone he must try to avoid the pitfalls of the first three phases. The best plan is to study full-scores, and listen to an orchestra, score in hand. But it is diffi~cult to decide what music should be studied and heard. Music of all ages, certainly, but, principally, that which is fairly modern. Fairly modern music will teach the student how to score—classical music will prove of negative value to him. Weber, Mendelssohn, Meyerbeer (The Prophet), Berlioz, Glinka, Wagner, Liszt, and modern French and Russian composers—these will prove his best guides. It is useless for a Berlioz or a Gevaert to quote examples from the works of Gluck. The musical idiom is too old-fashioned and strange to modern ears; such examples are of no further use today. The same may be said of Mozart and of Haydn (the father of modern orchestration).

The gigantic figure of Beethoven stands apart. His music abounds in countless leonine leaps of orchestral imagination, but his technique, viewed in detail, remains much inferior to his titanic conception. His use of the trumpets, standing out above the rest of the orchestra, the difficult and unhappy intervals he gives to the horns, the distinctive features of the string parts and his often highly-colored employment of the wood-wind,—these features will combine causing the student of Beethoven to stumble upon a thousand and one points in contradiction.

It is a mistake to think that the beginner will light upon no simple and instructive examples in modern music, in that of Wagner and others. On the contrary, clearer, and better examples are to be found amongst modern composers than in what is called the range of classical music.

Author’s note - (1) A. Glazounov has well expressed the various degrees of excellence in scoring, which he divides into three classes: 1. When the orchestra sounds well, playing from sight; magnificent, after a few rehearsals. 2. When effects cannot be brought off except with the greatest care and attention on the part of conductor and players. 3. When the orchestra never sounds well. Evi~dently the chief aim in Orchestration is to obtain the first of these results.


Extract from the Preface to the last edition.

My aim in undertaking this work is to reveal the principles of modern orchestration in a somewhat different light than that usually brought to bear upon the subject. I have followed these principles in orchestrating my own works, and, wishing to impart some of my ideas to young composers, I have quoted examples from my own compositions, or given references to them, endeavoring to show, in all sincerity, what is successful and what is not. No one can know except the author himself the purpose and motives which governed him during the composition of a certain work, and the practice of explaining the intentions of a composer, so prevalent amongst annotators, however reverent and discreet, appears to me far from satisfactory. They will attribute a too closely philosophic or excessively poetic meaning to a plain and simple fact. Sometimes the respect which great composers' names command will cause inferior examples to be quoted as good; case:, of carelessness or ignorance, easily explained by the imperfections of current technique, give rise to whole pages of laborious exposition, in defense, or even in admiration of a faulty passage.

This book is written for those who have already studied instrumentation from Gevaert's excellent treatise, or any other well-known manual, and who have some knowledge of a number of orches~tral scores.

I shall therefore only just touch on such technical questions as fingering, range, emission of sound etc. (1)

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(1) A short review of these various questions forms the first chapter of the book. (Editor's note.)

Styxx
05-22-2006, 05:16 PM
OH MAN! Gary you really know how to give a guy a heart attack! :D

beach
05-22-2006, 06:04 PM
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:);)
Thank you very much Gary and all the people that worked for this!!


All the best,
Roberto

Jerry W.
05-22-2006, 06:30 PM
Sweet.

I am stoked!

Thank you Gary for this!!


Jerry

Reegs
05-22-2006, 06:38 PM
This is going to be fun. :D

Thank you for the opportunity!

Ian Dorsch
05-22-2006, 07:19 PM
Yeah, I gotta say, you guys really go above and beyond. :D

jsp2
05-22-2006, 07:42 PM
This is an enormous undertaking. I applaud everyone involved in compiling all the material!


... Although my music understanding is limited, I look forward to trying my best at following along!

Bravo to the entire Rimsky team!

~Jeff

arek_
05-22-2006, 09:48 PM
:eek: Spectacular Spectacular!!

This'll be great! I just can't wait to start with it.

Thank you so much Gary (and all the team, of course).

See you in classroom :p, mates.

etLux
05-22-2006, 11:32 PM
I've been following this with great interest since Gary's inception of it,
and it sure looks like the musical world is in for a great treat with still
another Garritan first!

As Gary is quick to note, this was also a group effort in many regards,
with many forum members devoting a great deal of time and effort to
the realization of it.

Please, a big hand for all who helped, too!

(For the record, I had nothing to do with it, though mentioned in the
Acknowledgements section.)

This is gonna be hot!

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
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EricWatkins
05-23-2006, 12:04 AM
:) Excellent Gary and all the others who made this happen. Thank you all so much. I can hardly wait.

Eric

sammy24
05-23-2006, 12:57 AM
gary, as always u guys show how you're headed in the right direction, in every regard, from innovative products which constantly raise the bar, to a focus on education which is obviously so important-- thank u so much for offering this course, and free of charge no less-- it is a real treat!

Collin
05-23-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm looking forward to this! Thanks to all who gave of them selves to make this happen.

scadh1
05-23-2006, 06:03 PM
Sensational! Thank you to all involved for your overwhelming display of selflessness and for giving so generously of your time to create this pro bono project for the common good.

Bravo.

claysf
05-23-2006, 06:27 PM
Hi all! This course, and Gary & company's altruistic approach to making this into a musician's community were big factors in my choice of GPO to get my orchestral aspirations in gear. I'm really looking forard to it!

Yves
05-23-2006, 07:26 PM
Simply amazing..!

can't thank you enough !

best regards

Yves

daerp@mac.com
05-23-2006, 08:13 PM
I've become (not by choice) a less frequent visitor to the forum and haven't contributed for eons. But HAD to say that this is a tremendous addition to this forum.
Gary (et al) WELL DONE!!!!!!! Looking forward to it.

Paul

snorlax
05-23-2006, 08:15 PM
I've been following this with great interest since Gary's inception of it,
and it sure looks like the musical world is in for a great treat with still
another Garritan first!

As Gary is quick to note, this was also a group effort in many regards,
with many forum members devoting a great deal of time and effort to
the realization of it.

Please, a big hand for all who helped, too!


This is gonna be hot!

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com (http://www.DavidSosnowski.com)
.

You wrote==>(For the record, I had nothing to do with it, though mentioned in the Acknowledgements section.)

David...

Well, that's OK...I volunteered you to be one of the lead teachers, so the mention is ex ante rather than ex post.

Seriously, we'd have much to learn from you so I do hope you will be an active participant.

Jim

Leaf
05-24-2006, 03:37 AM
On my safari browser, everything in showing in html markup, unless I click "Show Printable Version" in the Thread Tools menu. :confused:

davidoro
05-24-2006, 05:25 AM
Hi Gary,
Congrats on getting this up and running. I notice from the acknowledgments section that I guess the Sibelius files I sent were not used - Oh well :(

Anyway, looking forward to being able to play as well as see the Rimsky examples finally,
David (O'Rourke).

martuciello
05-24-2006, 05:51 AM
Thank you for this course and sorry for my English
:)

etLux
05-24-2006, 03:27 PM
You wrote==>(For the record, I had nothing to do with it, though mentioned in the Acknowledgements section.)

David...

Well, that's OK...I volunteered you to be one of the lead teachers, so the mention is ex ante rather than ex post.

Seriously, we'd have much to learn from you so I do hope you will be an active participant.

Jim
My participation in this has been predominantly cheer-leading and helping
shoot down some technical problems.

The real work is being done by Gary and all the folks doing the .mp3's,
creating the flash presentations, doing the scores for them, and so on.

I will, of course, be around frequently for this; and I promise to do my best
not to ruin an otherwise potentially perfectly good crop of new orchestrators
with my comments... lol.

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

gaitkeepah
05-24-2006, 07:14 PM
Awesome, awesome job guys - thank you all so much. This will be beneficial for me.

Regards,
Wayne

tptsareamazing
05-24-2006, 09:59 PM
i am SO HAPPY....i really appreciate all of the hard work that went into this, and i know that it will pay off...
THANKS AGAIN!! :D
-Ken

Shazbot
05-25-2006, 12:00 AM
Sounds cool. I look forward to this.

Thanks!

wiseelben
05-25-2006, 12:56 AM
I have long hoovered over the GPO community and forums. I hope to one day save up enough to buy GPO. Gary, I've read the article you wrote on your conquest of GPO, and you spoke freely of your dedication and love of your quest, but I did not truly belive. I mean, it IS an article about GPO, and I simply thought of it as another way of getting us to buy GPO. But now, I see the true dedication you have! Can't wait!

ailteoir
05-25-2006, 12:27 PM
now this is looorve. well done everybody i for one look forward to this.

slán
mick ó c

J. Whaley
05-26-2006, 03:37 AM
Gary - you da bomb. Even though I already have a degree in composition, and I've done a fairly good amount of orchestration - and I've even taught several students basic orchestration, I'm excited about this. Reviewing material is ALWAYS good - and doing it with such a great group of people is awesome. I often say people who spend a lot of time in music centers (LA, NY, Nashsille etc) learn a good bit by osmosis. The same will be true here. This is not just an awesome opportunity for people wanting to learn about orchestration, it's great for all of us!

I'm going to offer to help with some examples as soon as I have time! Errrrrr!!!!!!


JW-

Trace
05-26-2006, 02:26 PM
Thanks again Gary. You are a generous man.:)

Maximvs
05-26-2006, 02:36 PM
Hello Gary,

I would like to congratulate you and the fantastic team that contributed in creating this amazing learning opportunity in the field of Orchestration.

I have been waiting for along time to see something like this and now that it is here let's get to work and learn.

A big BRAVO to all of you

All the Best

Maximvs

johnjewel
05-27-2006, 02:41 AM
Where are the full scores ? I guess , I also wanted to particip[ate in the competition , acually a fellow composer told me , finish your opera ... it took him 14 years to get the first one done ...and produced. finishing the work is the hardest part , with gpo , and a few friends in theator class , you know its sure to happen ... I am working on the opera everyday now ...:|:

henrymorris
05-30-2006, 06:58 PM
Thankyou, Gary, for continuing to flood this planet with the food of love! Very much appreciated.

Pruneau
05-30-2006, 06:58 PM
This is a very exciting opportunity for an autodidact like me to get to grips with some of the more advanced principles of orchestration, and already, just by reading the 2 introductory lessons, I have picked up a lot of things. Wonderful initiative, and thank you!

savanttrigger
06-01-2006, 01:09 AM
Thanks a lot for this!!

I'm begin my composition major in the fall, and I hope this course will give me an edge!
BTW, this has made me seriously consider buying GPO!

babaorum
06-02-2006, 07:50 PM
GREAT initiative !
wonderfull it's amazing,
Thank you Garritan,

Baba

freedomsource
06-15-2006, 01:01 PM
Thank you so much for placing this info on the internet. While I had about four years of keyboard, and choir in school, here I'm getting the training I need to really write quality music. This is so exciting to me.

harmony gardens
06-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Gary,,,, thanks so much. I'm as excited as everyone else is here. I appreciate this oppertunity to learn!!!

harmony gardens
06-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Gary,,,, thanks so much. I'm as excited as everyone else is here. I appreciate this oppertunity to learn!!!

olsonuf
07-05-2006, 12:20 PM
This course is a GREAT thing! Thank you so much for creating it!

I am going to buy GPO this friday and get started working on the examples. I have read RK's book a few times, but the interactive aspects of this version make it so much more interesting and easy to fully understand.

Jason A Wood
http://www.olsonuf.com

mbarouh
07-17-2006, 02:10 PM
Gary
New on this site, I'm just wondering how this can be possible.

From ths day on, I'll be a fan of yours.
Mayer

etLux
07-17-2006, 02:24 PM
New on this site, I'm just wondering how this can be possible.



In GarritanLand, all things are possible... lol.

Welcome aboard, Mayer!

Best,

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

mbarouh
07-17-2006, 03:07 PM
In GarritanLand, all things are possible... lol.

Welcome aboard, Mayer!

Best,

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com (http://www.DavidSosnowski.com)
.
GarritanLand? it sounds fine!
And Gary Garritan sounds very sympathetic to my ears, now !
As the name of David Sosnowski is!

I'll try to be serious, David :)

Cheers
Mayer

etLux
07-17-2006, 03:43 PM
GarritanLand? it sounds fine!
And Gary Garritan sounds very sympathetic to my ears, now !
As the name of David Sosnowski is!

I'll try to be serious, David :)

Cheers
Mayer

Heaven forbid! Mayer, this forum is all about learning, when
you come down to it... but I believe most of us think that
progresses far faster and much more smoothly with ample
doses of humor and fun.

My best,

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

Screpach
07-30-2006, 03:54 PM
Thank you!!!

agitato816
08-02-2006, 10:56 PM
Thanks to this!:|:

Aleksandar
08-07-2006, 10:04 AM
Gary,

thank you very much for the course!

Aleksandar

Aleksandar
08-08-2006, 10:15 AM
Hello Gary,

just a small notification about Lesson 1. To avoid a possible misunderstanding in the table of Wood-winds in three's, number "2" at the end of the third row should be placed at the bigining of the forth row.
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Tom_Davis
08-16-2006, 09:16 PM
I read through the courses - and then went out and bought the book. I had read it years ago in school, but it is as fresh as ever. The on-line version makes it even more attractive.

Gumbo
09-29-2006, 03:08 AM
Howdy everyone! I'm new here and very new to forums but I'll learn quickly.

etLux
09-29-2006, 03:19 AM
Howdy everyone! I'm new here and very new to forums but I'll learn quickly.

Welcome aboard, Gumbo!

My best,

David
www.DavidSosnowski.com
.

Aleksandar
09-30-2006, 07:22 AM
Howdy everyone! I'm new here and very new to forums but I'll learn quickly.

Hi Gumbo,

Welcome aboard and have a nice time here!

Aleksandar

JFDoyle
09-30-2006, 06:03 PM
I just wanted to note, this is a tremendous resource. Thank you! To all involved in making it happen.

Dickl
10-05-2006, 08:12 AM
Amazing resource you have here!

I look forward to working my way through the course.

Cheers

Dick

drummerboy
10-05-2006, 09:26 AM
Hi
I'm new here and looking forward to meeting new people for discussion on the course

Aleksandar
10-05-2006, 09:36 AM
Hi
I'm new here and looking forward to meeting new people for discussion on the course

Welcome drummerboy! Enjoy the course and share experience with others.

Aleksandar

ernie
10-06-2006, 05:26 AM
Hi to everyone -

I am a new member and have started the course in orchestration. Already I have learned ~| some things that I don't know where I could have easily found out anywhere else outside of a musical school. I hope I can add a comment or two down the line.
http://northernsounds.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif
Ernie R.

Aleksandar
10-06-2006, 05:56 AM
Hello Ernie,

Wish you a pleasant stay! Let us hear more from you down the line.

Regards,

Aleksandar

mannyp8
10-24-2006, 07:16 PM
I'm glad and thrilled to be a part of this forum. I've read Rimsky-Korsakov's Treatise on Orchestration in a desultory manner in the past. I hope this course will give me new insights into techniques of orchestration (at least in R0K's way).

Bangha
10-28-2006, 04:36 PM
Hello everyone!

I just came across this course and I just cant thank you enough. This will be very challenging for me as I have no formal music education so I will work even harder on my reading and basic orchestration before I even attempt to dive into the course. This is great motivation to study harder.

Does anyone have any recommendations or software or books for reading all clefs and that also touch on basic orchestration?

Hopefully a year from now I'll be posting my first soundfiles.

Garritan
10-28-2006, 07:23 PM
I'm glad and thrilled to be a part of this forum. I've read Rimsky-Korsakov's Treatise on Orchestration in a desultory manner in the past. I hope this course will give me new insights into techniques of orchestration (at least in R0K's way).mannyp8,

Thanks for joining us. I hope this new version of the Treatise does give you new insights and helps you in your musical journey.

All the best,

Gary

Garritan
10-28-2006, 07:32 PM
Hello everyone!

I just came across this course and I just cant thank you enough. This will be very challenging for me as I have no formal music education so I will work even harder on my reading and basic orchestration before I even attempt to dive into the course. This is great motivation to study harder.

Does anyone have any recommendations or software or books for reading all clefs and that also touch on basic orchestration?

Hopefully a year from now I'll be posting my first soundfiles.Hi Bengha,

Welcome to the forum! We developed this course for people like you. A good place to start for basic orchestration is the Philharmium site: www.philharmonia.co.uk/moreabouttheorchestra/ This site has lots of information about the instruments of the orchestra - http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/thesoundexchange/the_orchestra/instruments/ (http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/exploreandlearn/instruments/)
there are also online resources for sight reading too.

there is still much that you can glean from this course. Especially what different instruments sound like in combination together.

I am looking forward to your participation to to hearing your music in the future.

All the best,

Gary Garritan

enano777
10-31-2006, 02:02 PM
thanks a lot for this

Garritan
11-21-2006, 01:56 PM
Hi all,

Just wanted to add my voice to the roar of approval and thanks! its one of the best examples of community knowledge sharing that Ive personally come across on the internet. ( thats saying something!?))(~

I'm looking forward to working my way through this. I've studied some orchestration before but I'm looking to fill in gaps and get new ways of looking at things.

Till later!Gregoir,

Welcome to the course. The community here is terrific and looking forward to your being a part of it.

I see you are from the bottom of the world. That wouldn't happen to be Antartica? :p:D

Gary

Davidihong
11-21-2006, 03:30 PM
Thank you for this course. I have studied the Principles of Orchestration on my own and had actually wanted to collect the examples Rimsky shows in volume two. Thank you for this class.

David

Garritan
11-28-2006, 04:37 AM
Thank you for this course. I have studied the Principles of Orchestration on my own and had actually wanted to collect the examples Rimsky shows in volume two. Thank you for this class.

DavidHi David,

Welcome to the course and glad you can join us. Please feel free to share with us. Hope you glean some things that will help in your musical journey.

All the best,

Gary

bixhenry
12-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Thanks very much for this course. I'm an L.A.-based film/tv composer who was classically trained as a child, got immersed in the worlds of rock bands as a young adult, and as a professional composer, I am looking to brush up on things I learned and forgot years ago!

Thanks again - this looks like great fun!

Garritan
12-05-2006, 10:19 PM
Thanks very much for this course. I'm an L.A.-based film/tv composer who was classically trained as a child, got immersed in the worlds of rock bands as a young adult, and as a professional composer, I am looking to brush up on things I learned and forgot years ago!

Thanks again - this looks like great fun!Hi bixhenry and a warm welcome to the forum and the course. I hope this course will help you brush up on the long-hair music. ;)

Let me know if I can be of help in any way and I welcome your participation.

Gary Garritan

Cavehill
12-09-2006, 01:00 PM
Many thanks for keeping this course on orchestration open for latecomers like me. I came across this while following links from a music notation programme's website and I'm looking forward to exploring the possibilities of hearing my attempts at orchestration by linking notation to sampled sounds! (Just beginning with the technology!)

Looking forward to using this resource while living in the great Rimsky-Korsakov's homeland! Thanks again.

rking
12-10-2006, 03:00 AM
I've been searching for an orchestration course online. They are few and far between. And No Charge for this one??? Many thanks to all who've contributed to make this project happen.

dougrsm
12-10-2006, 01:47 PM
This is unbelievable! I'm eager to begin!

Garritan
12-11-2006, 01:22 AM
Many thanks for keeping this course on orchestration open for latecomers like me. I came across this while following links from a music notation programme's website and I'm looking forward to exploring the possibilities of hearing my attempts at orchestration by linking notation to sampled sounds! (Just beginning with the technology!)

Looking forward to using this resource while living in the great Rimsky-Korsakov's homeland! Thanks again.Cavehill,

A warm welcome! You certainly are in the great Rimsky-Korsakov homeland.

Is there a Rimsky-Korsakov museum in Moscow? I appreciate your being hare and welcome your insights and participation.

Gary Garritan

Garritan
12-11-2006, 01:23 AM
I've been searching for an orchestration course online. They are few and far between. And No Charge for this one??? Many thanks to all who've contributed to make this project happen.rking,

Glad you found your way to this course. That's right - no charge whatsover. :) Just come in and learn. And if you have something to share, please do so.

I look forward to your participation.

Gary Garritan

Garritan
12-11-2006, 01:24 AM
This is unbelievable! I'm eager to begin!dougrsm,

...and we're eager to have you join in. Hope you glean much from this course. Thanks for participating.

Gary Garritan

Dr Voice
12-11-2006, 10:34 PM
Hi There

Whoever is reading this I Have just joined as a member from London, I am well impressed with this Web site and feel already indebted to the Inventors and Instigators of such a lovely idea to help us composers along our way in the world of music.

I am not sure how this whole thing works yet, so I assume to talk about myself CV etc on this thread would not be appropriate. I will in time post my credentials as time allows me to, between my composing and Teaching.
Great to be here and look forward to some interesting conversations and sharings Large respect to all.

Dr Voice

Cavehill
12-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I'm ashamed to say that, even though I've lived here for 7 years, I don't actually know whether there's a Rimsky-Korsakov museum in Moscow! I'll find out - maybe even visit it - and let you know.

netwrangler
12-17-2006, 01:04 AM
Wow!

Bought the book. Bought Finale 2007. Wondered how I was going to put it all together.

Thank you so much for the course.

School Boy
12-21-2006, 10:47 PM
Thanks so much...Time to learn.

Night2Hawk
12-25-2006, 05:23 PM
Hello all. I'm new here but, wanted to say Happy Hollidays to all and am looking forward to learning and many thanks to you for making this site possible.

snorlax
12-25-2006, 05:25 PM
Hello all. I'm new here but, wanted to say Happy Hollidays to all and am looking forward to learning and many thanks to you for making this site possible.

Welcome...Merry Christmas...Happy musicmaking!!
Jim

cali3
12-28-2006, 08:16 PM
Hello,

Happy Holidays!
Is it too late to sign up for the orchestration course?

Thank you,
Alan

Trankonia
01-03-2007, 02:03 PM
All I can say is this is incredible!!! What an enormous amount of work and dedication. A BIG thanks to all who contributed.
)(~

I do have one quick question:

Is there a way to download the content for off-line viewing? I travel very frequently and would very much like to go through this course while on flights etc.

Obviously, the written content can easily be saved but the real value that you have so graciously provided is the audio examples that are in context with the reading material.

Best Regards,

Trankonia

Louise C
01-07-2007, 03:09 PM
It's so good to be here in the company of like-minded people. I'm new to the forums and am looking forward to exploring some of the other topics as well. Gary, hats off. Another great reason it's good to be alive in the 21st century.

My confession- I do own another orchestra library which can sound quite nice, but have on more than one occasion yearned for GPO. (The idea of handpicking the instruments is just, well, too much to resist.) I hope in the not too distant future to go ahead and spoil myself, even if it means updating my system and sequencing software (yikes!)

snorlax
01-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Hello,

Happy Holidays!
Is it too late to sign up for the orchestration course?

Thank you,
Alan

Alan...

Self-pacing...never too late...GET GOING!!!:D

Jim

myles2042
01-22-2007, 08:52 AM
Hi,

I'm a new boy on the block. I hope to gain a lot from the course, as what I have seen so far looks very promising.

Just one negative thought: I hope I can avoid the danger of making something trite sound impressive by dressing it in orchestral garb. I am reminded of the Spanish proverb which says , a monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey.

Best wishes to you all,
Myles 2042

scipio
01-28-2007, 08:25 PM
Hello,

Thank you so much for making this available. This is one of the greatest uses of the Internet I have ever seen. Congratulations to everyone involved in putting this project together. I sincerely cannot thank you enough.

Thanks again,
Scipio

the perfect human
01-29-2007, 04:01 PM
hi everybody.
Orquestration is a pendient work in my musical studies.
it is amazing! In spanish we say ´me viene como anillo al dedo' (it is like a ring to a finger), meaning it is just what i was looking for .
I am grateful to have an opportunity to learn and share ideas.

)(~

Garritan
02-01-2007, 07:20 PM
Hi,

I'm a new boy on the block. I hope to gain a lot from the course, as what I have seen so far looks very promising.

Just one negative thought: I hope I can avoid the danger of making something trite sound impressive by dressing it in orchestral garb. I am reminded of the Spanish proverb which says , a monkey dressed in silk is still a monkey.

Best wishes to you all,
Myles 2042Hi Myles,

Welcome to the course and hope you do gain a lot from being here.

I think one thing you'll learn from Rimsky-Korsakov is that less is more. Ecomony of orchestration seems to underly his method so you don't have to worry about dressing those primates in sil clothing. :D

Gary Garritan

Garritan
02-01-2007, 07:23 PM
Hello,

Thank you so much for making this available. This is one of the greatest uses of the Internet I have ever seen. Congratulations to everyone involved in putting this project together. I sincerely cannot thank you enough.

Thanks again,
ScipioHi Scipio,

Welcome to the course and glad you can join us. I am looking forward to your participation and hope you enjoy the course.

Best,

Gary Garritan

Garritan
02-01-2007, 07:26 PM
hi everybody.
Orquestration is a pendient work in my musical studies.
it is amazing! In spanish we say ´me viene como anillo al dedo' (it is like a ring to a finger), meaning it is just what i was looking for .
I am grateful to have an opportunity to learn and share ideas.

)(~Hola!

Thanks for joining us. I am glad this course fits perfect like a ring.

A spanish version of this course may be a worthwhile thing to do. I will look into whether there is a Spanish translation of the text available and what it would take to translate.

All the best,

Gary Garritan

FJ Hillyer
02-03-2007, 03:41 AM
I have been looking for drum brush sounds and here they are!!

FJ Hillyer
02-03-2007, 03:49 AM
What do I click to start?

Garritan
02-03-2007, 03:38 PM
What do I click to start?FJ,

Welcome to the course.

Just start by clicking on Lesson 1. If you have a background in instrumentation, you can skip the first two chapters overview.

Hope you enjoy the course.

Gary Garritan

fusquito
02-09-2007, 12:12 AM
)(~ )(~ )(~ )(~ )(~

Thank you very very much for making this awesome work available!!!

)(~ )(~ )(~ )(~ )(~

manossg
02-25-2007, 02:17 PM
Greetings from Greece! This contribution is simply amazing! Thank you!

mgrowich
03-16-2007, 09:59 PM
Hello all, nice place. Our music is happy.

PabloMack
03-21-2007, 10:56 PM
RK's text makes for very entertaining reading for more reasons than their composition intended to address. I come from a much more scientific background than the arts and studied sciences at a college where most of the students were studying fine arts. Sadly, I made it through two years before transfering to an engineering school without taking one fine arts class. But reading the old time science forefathers such as Charles Darwin and Alfred Russell Wallace one can't help but realize that "the arts and sciences" have very common roots in the renaissance. These disciplines have diverged so profoundly over the centuries only to come back together in the age of craftsmen who are building our computerized artistic tools of which Gary Garritan and his following are prime examples. I have to wonder at the poetic nature that, I presume, the original Russian script (?) must have had before being translated into English. I am probably not alone in my struggle to resolve the ideas that RK is trying to convey in his creative use of common adjectives. Like anyone who listens to fine music, I have my own ways of expressing the feelings I get from passages played by various instruments and I sometimes fail to bridge the gap when reading his words. My wife and I have read aloud parts of "The Malay Archipelago" to each other and ARW's arcane language is sometimes difficult to follow but it certainly reflects the mind-set of scientific thought of the time. Without reading the original works, something certainly would be lost in an attempt to get into the mind's of their creators:wow: .

PabloMack

P-Action
03-24-2007, 03:33 AM
Hi all,

First I would like to say please do not ever, ever remove this site from the internet. We are all so fortunate to have this at our disposition.

I am now 30 years old and I play paino and keyboards. I am touring with Cirque du soleil's Delirium as the band director and keyboardist. I grew up playing classical music in an advanced music high school in Montreal called Pierre Laporte. Unfortunately, that school will soon close because of lack of government funding.

I had the oppurtunity to play in orchestras, choirs, chamber music, and getting ear training, theory classes within my normal academic courses It is the best school. I owe a lot of my success to that school.

I gratuated from McGill University in Jazz Performance. It is my next goal to be able to right orchestrations. My biggest influence is string writing is Benjamin Wright. If you get a chance to hear his orchestrations, please let me know your thoughts. He can make any bad pop song sound good. Anyhow, off to my first lesson. I'll be back here with questions. Hopefully some of you will be kind enough to answer them.

Blessings

Ric'key Pageot

modest a. bragg
03-29-2007, 09:07 PM
hi,
i just stumbled upon this site and liked the orchestration stuff, even though i'm just an amateur to instrumental sounds. would like to find out more.
listening
modest

marples7
04-12-2007, 07:43 PM
I'm interested in theis course and I've tried clicking on lesson 1 and nothing has happened

Garritan
04-14-2007, 02:20 AM
I'm interested in theis course and I've tried clicking on lesson 1 and nothing has happenedMake sure you have Flash installed in your browser. Welcome to the course and hope you enjoy it.

Gary Garritan

Garritan
04-14-2007, 02:21 AM
hi,
i just stumbled upon this site and liked the orchestration stuff, even though i'm just an amateur to instrumental sounds. would like to find out more.
listening
modestModest,

Welcome to the course. Hope this course helps you find out more.

Looking forward to your participation.

Gary Garitan

Garritan
04-14-2007, 02:24 AM
Hi all,

First I would like to say please do not ever, ever remove this site from the internet. We are all so fortunate to have this at our disposition.

I am now 30 years old and I play paino and keyboards. I am touring with Cirque du soleil's Delirium as the band director and keyboardist. I grew up playing classical music in an advanced music high school in Montreal called Pierre Laporte. Unfortunately, that school will soon close because of lack of government funding.

I had the oppurtunity to play in orchestras, choirs, chamber music, and getting ear training, theory classes within my normal academic courses It is the best school. I owe a lot of my success to that school.

I gratuated from McGill University in Jazz Performance. It is my next goal to be able to right orchestrations. My biggest influence is string writing is Benjamin Wright. If you get a chance to hear his orchestrations, please let me know your thoughts. He can make any bad pop song sound good. Anyhow, off to my first lesson. I'll be back here with questions. Hopefully some of you will be kind enough to answer them.

Blessings

Ric'key PageotHi Ric'key,

Welcome to the course. Thanks for the tip on Benjamin Wright and I'll check out his orchestrations. Let me know if you have any questions.

Enjoy the course!

Gary Garritan

snorlax
04-14-2007, 02:29 AM
hi,
i just stumbled upon this site and liked the orchestration stuff, even though i'm just an amateur to instrumental sounds. would like to find out more.
listening
modest

Modest...

Dive right in! You can pace yourself...spend much time on areas you're unfamiliar with, and go more quickly through the areas you know well.
Do all the exercises you can, and listen to the exercises others have done.
Above all, enjoy!
Jim

moops
04-14-2007, 08:48 PM
Gary and everyone else who has been involved in this endeavour: having been away from the forums for a while (sadly) I've returned and found the huge wealth of educational material you guys have made available here - It's absolutely outstanding, really a truly excellent community spirited project. The quality, multimedia format and structure of the materials make it second to none. I can only say Thank You, and hope to contribute my part as best I can throughout the forum.

With best regards
Paul

d60944
04-25-2007, 02:26 PM
Make sure you have Flash installed in your browser. Welcome to the course and hope you enjoy it.

Gary Garritan

Hi, new user here. I too see nothing to click on. Flash is up to date. The chapter headings are not links.

Thanks!

Aleksandar
04-26-2007, 10:07 AM
Hi, new user here. I too see nothing to click on. Flash is up to date. The chapter headings are not links.

Thanks!

It is strange. I have just tested links, chapter heading(s) IS(ARE) a link to lesson(s). I use Opera and everything works fine for me.

Aleksandar

rbassman98003
04-26-2007, 03:13 PM
I have installed Flash 9. It says to Click the Play button but there is no play button to click

EmmSee
05-02-2007, 09:55 PM
Gary -
Wow, thank you so much for this.

I read this book about 9 years ago for the first time .. it is definitely a whole new world having all the audio samples ready to play for each written example.

THANKS AGAIN!

mjp932003
05-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Thank you for your work on this great resource!

Dunja Nussbaum
05-11-2007, 09:55 AM
I`m very interested.I hope I can learn a lot.~|

snorlax
05-11-2007, 10:09 AM
Welcome to our newest users!...

Everything is self-paced here, so jump right in, see/hear the examples, see/hear what others have done, and--above all--have fun learning!!

Jim W.

dads
05-15-2007, 02:29 AM
The introduction is open to me, but all the lessons are locked.
How can I access them?

Garritan
05-15-2007, 03:11 AM
The introduction is open to me, but all the lessons are locked.
How can I access them?

Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy this course and glean a great deal from it.

Being locked means you cannot post in the Lesson thread. But you can view them. All posts can be made in the discussion area below. You are free to start new threads or parcipate in discussions in existing threads.

Best regards,

Gary Garritan

Don Solaris
05-18-2007, 06:33 PM
Links to lessons do not work.

Adobe Flash Player 9

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.11) Gecko/20070312 Firefox/1.5.0.11

as well as on:

Microsoft Internet Explorer
Version: 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158

Cheers!

Garritan
05-18-2007, 09:11 PM
Links to lessons do not work.

Adobe Flash Player 9

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.11) Gecko/20070312 Firefox/1.5.0.11

as well as on:

Microsoft Internet Explorer
Version: 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158

Cheers!Just tried on several computers and all the links to the lessons work fine. Anyone else having this problem?

Gary Garritan

Don Solaris
05-19-2007, 05:25 AM
Ok, let's see if we talk about the same thing: ;)

I was thinking about stuff on first page located below:

Course Syllabus
(subject to change)

Garritan
05-19-2007, 01:09 PM
Ok, let's see if we talk about the same thing: ;)

I was thinking about stuff on first page located below:

Course Syllabus
(subject to change)

Those are chapter titles and not links. For links to the lessons go to the index here: http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=77

Gary Garritan

Don Solaris
05-19-2007, 01:36 PM
Oh.

A freind gave me link to Page 1 of this thread and i couldn't figure out why none of the links work. :D

Thanks for clearing this out.

Well... see you in about 6 months when (if) i complete the course.

dholdredge
06-22-2007, 10:02 PM
Cool! This is exactly what I was looking for. Hope to learn alot.

Julio Sanchez-R
08-01-2007, 10:28 PM
Mr. Garry, Thanks for the course, seems wonderful, I hope to me to learn and to share.

Garritan
08-03-2007, 04:29 PM
Mr. Garry, Thanks for the course, seems wonderful, I hope to me to learn and to share.Hi Julio,

Thanks so much for writing and glad you are benefiting from the course.

Looking forward to your participation and hope this helps you make some terrific music.

My best,

Gary Garritan

Autobotsynth
08-16-2007, 05:08 AM
Hello Northersounds Forum,
Just listened to GPOdemos...WOW! Where have I been? Let me in! :) (first time post).

Garritan
08-17-2007, 02:17 AM
Hello Northersounds Forum,
Just listened to GPOdemos...WOW! Where have I been? Let me in! :) (first time post).Welcome to the course Autobotsynth!
Looking forward to your participation.

Gary Garritan

bbassett67
08-28-2007, 03:34 PM
Are there any plans for a Jazz and Big Band Composition and Arranging course?

I heard the demos for the JABB and I can't wait to get my hands on the software. This software is awesome! I'm a computer programmer and Jazz Alto Sax player. I am starting to get ready to devote a lot of time to music composition and arranging. Your software is a great addition to the others I currently use.

Garritan
08-28-2007, 06:27 PM
bbassett67

Yes, there is a new Jazz Arranging Course by Chuck Israels coming!

Thanks for the kind words.

Gary Garritan


Are there any plans for a Jazz and Big Band Composition and Arranging course?

I heard the demos for the JABB and I can't wait to get my hands on the software. This software is awesome! I'm a computer programmer and Jazz Alto Sax player. I am starting to get ready to devote a lot of time to music composition and arranging. Your software is a great addition to the others I currently use.

pollysix
08-31-2007, 03:14 PM
So it's still okay to start this course? It's still going?

What an amazing opportunity! I'm very excited to check it out.

Garritan
09-01-2007, 01:58 PM
So it's still okay to start this course? It's still going?

What an amazing opportunity! I'm very excited to check it out.Hi pollysix,

Welcome to the forum and the course!

Yes, it is okay to start this course as it is ongoing and you can jopin in at any time.

Hope you enjoy and benefit from this course.

Best,

Gary Garritan

chordam7
09-12-2007, 06:58 PM
Howdy!

First-timer. I recently found out about this forum while searching for a copy of the book. I thought this would be a great companion to the book and an excellent use of online technology. I'd already been familiar with GPO though a recent purchase of Finale 2007 and this course was more than enough to convince me to join the forum!

Thanks so much for making this great resource available! I look forward to learning more about orchestrating and using GPO.

Chris

Garritan
09-13-2007, 12:30 AM
Hi Chris,

Welcome to the forum and to the course. I see you are a fellow Washingtonian. Your site is very well done and informative (like the newspaper layout). I'll refer to it time to time to see what's happening in the south sound.

Fell free to join in the GPO section of this forum.

Looking forward to your participation and hope you enjoy the course.

My best,

Gary Garritan

Howdy!

First-timer. I recently found out about this forum while searching for a copy of the book. I thought this would be a great companion to the book and an excellent use of online technology. I'd already been familiar with GPO though a recent purchase of Finale 2007 and this course was more than enough to convince me to join the forum!

Thanks so much for making this great resource available! I look forward to learning more about orchestrating and using GPO.

Chris

lucashdz
09-16-2007, 03:32 PM
Very nice... thanks

Dule
10-03-2007, 12:02 AM
Hi everybody!
I am new to forum, and i whant to say that this interactive way of learning is is very very valuable, especially beacuse is free. Thanks!
I have the basics with music theory, recently I started to learn orchestration from the book of music collage in my country; but this is far more helpful as I saw on quick look. I am planning to do this course from the begining...

Garritan
10-03-2007, 01:39 AM
Hi Dule,

Welcome to the course. I hope you learn much here and looking forward to your participation.

All the best,

Gary Garritan

Hi everybody!
I am new to forum, and i whant to say that this interactive way of learning is is very very valuable, especially beacuse is free. Thanks!
I have the basics with music theory, recently I started to learn orchestration from the book of music collage in my country; but this is far more helpful as I saw on quick look. I am planning to do this course from the begining...

Morgul
10-07-2007, 03:55 PM
Hi! I'm a newbie here -- a chemical engineer by training and a musician by passion (playing woodwinds in various settings for a lotta years). I always had an interest in orchestration/arranging, and I found this site by accident. If someone told me that a resource of this magnitude was available online -- at no cost!! -- I would have called him fourteen kinds of crazy.

But here it is, and here I am, and I can't wait to get started!

Epigraph55
10-08-2007, 10:35 AM
I've just had this course brought to my attention and will follow if through with interest. The opportunity to learn (or relearn in my case) orchestration with access to audio examples must rival anything a conservatoire can offer. Well done and congratulations on embarking on such an ambitious project.

fermz
10-28-2007, 04:25 AM
Mr. Gary Garritan, Thank you so much for this magnificent tool, I'm sure it will improve the orchestration skills of many musicians in the world.
God bless you, for this helpful gift !!

HorNet505
11-17-2007, 03:39 PM
those are the things I apreciate most on the world wide web. I dont have to move to the teachers place but he comes to me virtually.
Hello to all who attend to this course I will start today with lesson one.
I am taking private class in Germany in a course thats called "advanced filmmusic composer" and doing these lessons as well will improve my knowledge very much I am shure.
I am a bit slow on orchestrating and my second orchestral work is waiting to be orchestrated. I hope to get some hints here and new power to get it done.
thanx a lot
Stefan, Dusseldorf:hp:

Scomiles
11-24-2007, 10:37 AM
I can't wait to start learning about orchestration. I am studying online and with a private teacher and I hope this helps me even more with the creation of music. I want to learn as much as I can about music and a site like this is simply amazing. I bought the strings refill for reason and I will be buying the Native Instruments refill in the near future to use with Logic Pro.

Carriere Henri
11-26-2007, 08:38 AM
Hello!
I can't write foreward wthout telling that I'm French , so I'm not able to speak your language fluently,meanwhile I'm so happy to have found your web site and Ifound your work very exiting and brillant.
I teach Musik,I love Musik,thanks so much for all your are giving us here!I'm shure I will have a lot of fun by following your lessons.
The best for you,Friendly.
Henri Carriere~|

snorlax
11-26-2007, 08:51 AM
Welcome to all our new learners!

The course is designed so that you may work at your own pace...feel free to submit your exercises if you want to. If you don't submit anything, that's fine too!!

Enjoy learning about orchestration!!

Jim W.

cplusee
11-28-2007, 06:16 PM
Had to say thank you too. I'm ready to roll. I just wish i knew how to read music more. Just started music theory class. But I'm still going to see if I can hang. thank you again.

bmurrin
12-09-2007, 02:13 AM
Amazing concept and service. Thank you so much! I'm looking forward to working my way through these lessons.

Barb

Namin
12-24-2007, 04:52 AM
Hello!

I know its taken me a few months to get back here. I was into organising my workstation and learning a a few more things about integrating Reason, Ableton Live and Nuendo. Now that I have a good grip on those areas I can concentrate on making music and yes realising it through the virtual orchestra. This site looks is indeed very promising. I am a budding composer. I will need lots of help. I hope I find what I am looking for here.

Thanks once again for putting up this site.

Regards and Christmas greetings
Namin

pamin21
12-26-2007, 02:21 AM
This is going to be an exciting ride!

To all of you who contributed to this couse... THANK YOU VERY MUCH and GOD BLESS! You have rekindled my passion for music!

Rodriam
01-04-2008, 01:01 PM
Hello and Happy New Year to all...

This is my first post although I am member since months ago.

I am a self-taught composer and pianist, though I have studied harmony and some music principles with fellow musicians. Now I am trying to compose for orchestra and band (at least digital ones) and this online course is wonderful to learn the concepts.

I bought the book about 2 years ago, but sometimes you need to listen and the examples given here are great, I think sometimes you need to close your eyes and just listen to the ensemble, it is not the same reading the score, at least not for me. I haven't got enough time to study this online course but plan to do this year and hope to post some samples soon.

Thanks Gary and all the people working here, this is simply wonderful.

I am planning to buy GPO, but for now I am using my gear to get the best orchestral sounds. GPO is wonderful too.

Greetings to all!

Rodrigo

Hank5
01-05-2008, 03:15 AM
Thanks for this PRICELESS information)(~

String Wizard
03-06-2008, 08:04 AM
Just great, thank you!

:)

jannokas85
03-18-2008, 08:21 PM
Hello! I'm thrilled to have found this and very eager to learn all of this...but...here's the beginning of the course, but where can i find the rest?

Rapple
05-28-2008, 03:38 AM
Hi: Been a jazz piano player for fifty years and still going. Don't play too many gigs anymore (overwork and underpay). I still work on the music every day and am trying to get started writing. Love the courses you're offering.
Rapple

holderofthehorns
06-14-2008, 12:19 AM
Absolutely invaluable.

Regisson Silva
09-06-2008, 01:05 AM
Wooooooooow!
Thaks Gary!!!

Im so excited for having this oportunity!
Im starting my studes about orchestration and was looking for some audio or video on the internet, I have to thank you again to provide to us this awesome material!

...and I wanna say hello to the other members of the community!

*()

Reegs
09-06-2008, 04:16 AM
...and I wanna say hello to the other members of the community!

*()


Hello Regisson! Welcome! :)

ceejay2005
10-16-2008, 02:00 PM
My dad has the best selections from the operas that are known in the West are "Dance of the Tumblers" from Snowmaiden, "Procession of the Nobles" from Mlada, "Song of the Indian Guest" (or, less accurately, "Song of India,") from Sadko, and "Flight of the Bumblebee" from Tsar Saltan, as well as suites from The Golden Cockerel and The Legend of the Invisible City of Kitezh and the Maiden Fevroniya. Awesome review Gary! )(~*())(~

marchseventh
10-27-2008, 08:10 AM
Hello,

I'm new here, My classmate introduced me to watch this course, It is great and awesome work!

But I can't read the pictures and flashes when I get home, I can read them in my office? Looks strenge. I couldn't read all day when working ~|
"You don't have permission to access /RK/Ch1_files/1stViolins.swf on this server."
Any advices? thank you

best