Anyone playing 7 Seas Grand yet?

[Iplayjazz]

...............I am as impatient as ever and curious about first impressions.............haven't been able to play demos yet but loved TBO and bought based on that..........


alan

[amyhughes]

ain't got, yet

[checks mail]

nope, ain't got

[checks mail again]

still not here...

[Worra]

All orders has been shipped and you most of you shold get it this week or early next week, depending on where you live.

[mal7]

Patience has never been one of my virtues http://smilies.sofrayt.com/eng/glasses10.gif

[Laurent]

Just received mine today...:p

Install in progress...

I'm impatient to see what this new monster is about... especially if it can bring down my present favorite piano (witch is TBO anyway) !

[pmwaring]

All orders has been shipped and you most of you shold get it this week or early next week, depending on where you live.

Woohoo!!! :D

[vic_france]

Just installed it now.. absolutely gorgeous! :) Sounds like it is really in the room with me :)

[Worra]

Just installed it now.. absolutely gorgeous! :) Sounds like it is really in the room with me :)

Cool! Glad you liked it!

[Aaron Dirk]

My fingers are twitching waiting for this baby! I can't wait for it to get here:) Such an amazing sounding piano! I just love the way it sounds in the Rachmaninoff prelude.

[mal7]

Just received mine today...:p

Install in progress...

I'm impatient to see what this new monster is about... especially if it can bring down my present favorite piano (witch is TBO anyway) !

So what's the verdict?

[Laurent]

Verdict : wow ! Great sound !

After making my own usual K2 patch (quite easily as 7CG and TBO behave the same !) I have spend hours to play.

For Kornel's harmonic script users : TBO script works just fine for 7CG.

This sound / perspective is really good. The C7 breathes so nicely.
I like it. You can feel the all piano body sound. More harmonics / less "bite" compared to TBO (especially in the fff). Two complementary side of the same piano.

Compared to TBO, the unevenness between some keys (reported by some users - That I personally don't find disturbing anyway) is much eased with this miking.

For those who have time and computer power to waste, you can try the real biggest sampled piano ever :
Load BOTH 7CG and TBO.... :n:
My god, with some level / stereo perspective adjustments, you have everything, the bread and the butter, TBO "bite" and 7CG singing velour for the boldest sound. I had to stop before blowing my HD...

:D

[Pingu]

Just got mine - absloutely loving it so far. The concert piano at school is a Yamaha, but has always had an action that was way too heavy - like weightlifting for your fingers. So now I get all the sound (in fact a rather better sound) and none of the tendinitis.

[Pingu]

Nearly forgot, Worra thankyou once again!!!!!!! You really are a class act.

[MMcD]

For those who have time and computer power to waste, you can try the real biggest sampled piano ever :
Load BOTH 7CG and TBO.... :n:
My god, with some level / stereo perspective adjustments, you have everything, the bread and the butter, TBO "bite" and 7CG singing velour for the boldest sound.
Can't wait to try this but I imagine people will be waiting a while for the 8800 samples to load ;-)

[Worra]

Guys! Glad you are enjoying the 7CG - Please remember to eat & sleep!
Laurent, would be great to test out your TBO/7CG combination. Could you send me the multi?

[Laurent]

Ooops, I didn't saved it !
I'm leaving now for some holidays, I will send it when I'm back !
Basically the recipe is :
- combine TBO and 7CG multi (+apply the same programming / levels)
- TBO -3db, slightly narrowed stereo panning
- 7CG 0db, slightly widened stereo panning
- Cook eggs on your HD

[Worra]

Ooops, I didn't saved it !
I'm leaving now for some holidays, I will send it when I'm back !
Basically the recipe is :
- combine TBO and 7CG multi (+apply the same programming / levels)
- TBO -3db, slightly narrowed stereo panning
- 7CG 0db, slightly widened stereo panning
- Cook eggs on your HD

Cool! I'll try it, although it's so hot here, (Sweden) right now that you probably can fry eggs on almost anything....

[Worra]

Nearly forgot, Worra thankyou once again!!!!!!! You really are a class act.

Thabk you Pingu!

[Iplayjazz]

well........after loving TBO...........I must say that I find 7seas underwhelming. After first days of fiddling. I know this is supposed to be the same session that yielded TBO but this perspective sounds dead and definitely has tuning issues that I don't hear in TBO. It just doesn't do it for me.

Remember as always that this is just my 2 cents worth. I love TBO and still use it as my first call piano sample for everything!

PS__ ebay, anyone?

[Bruce A. Richardson]

I have been playing the 7 Seas for a couple of days, and I really like it as a complement to the sound of TBO (which I also love).

7 Seas is a thicker sound, a more weighty presence. I don't have any time to produce much acoustic piano-based music right now (I'm in the middle of VERY different kinds of projects, none of them traditional), but I could see this sound sitting very nicely in an intimate jazz setting, where the warmth and harmonic structure would be nice.

Be sure and try it with different convolution packages, too. On Giga, you can get another completely different sound out of it if you use the GigaPiano II pedal up convolution impulse...a little more bass, and a more spread overall tone.

The thing I love about both this and TBO is the timbral range, and feeling of elasticity at the keyboard. The latter is not a subtle quality...you actually get a tactile sense of the instrument, and this is always the holy grail with piano/keyboard libraries.

If we were talking about a flute library, none of that would be important, since there is no parallel technique for comparison. But with a piano library, you're using the same technique that you'd use to play the actual physical instrument, so you can judge how well something is sampled by how it behaves under your fingers.

And on a good weighted controller, 7 Seas (and TBO) feel more like acoustic instruments than most samples, very similar to how Scarbee's RSP sample finally gave players enough depth to get a tactile sense of playing a Rhodes instead of hitting keys and hearing a physically disembodied timbre that doesn't "sound" like what you're playing "feels."

[Worra]

well........after loving TBO...........I must say that I find 7seas underwhelming. After first days of fiddling. I know this is supposed to be the same session that yielded TBO but this perspective sounds dead and definitely has tuning issues that I don't hear in TBO. It just doesn't do it for me.

Remember as always that this is just my 2 cents worth. I love TBO and still use it as my first call piano sample for everything!

PS__ ebay, anyone?

Glad you like TBO, sorry you don't like the 7CG. About the tuning. 7CG and TBO was recorded at exactly the same moment, using two different microphone settings/types, so it's impossible for 7CG to have tuning issues that TBO hasn't. And there's no tuning issues in te TBO.

[Aaron Dirk]

I received 7CG today, after playing it all day long.... I must say, this is one great piano! It has the great characteristics of TBO: the glass like tone in the upper mid ppp area, the monstrous fff in the low area. The mic distance is really nice, I tend to play the old romantic stuff and this is really great for it. Defiantly a must have piano! Thumbs way up!

[amyhughes]

My mini handles 7CG just fine. As long as I don't use convolution. Or the sustain pedal. Or play too fast. Curiously, it's disk IO that kills it (unless I try convolution, in which case it's wild clicking and CPU overload that kills it). Perhaps I'm running out of memory (1G) and the OS is trying to swap something, because when it fails the disk usage goes from ~25% to redline very fast.

Anyway, I love the sound and the evenness of this piano, but now I'm going to put it away until I have a new computer :( I knew my machine wasn't up to spec when I bought 7CG, so no complaints.

[MMcD]

7CG is just what I expected, a warmer, fuller version of TBO. The depth of velocities gives the same great feel with weighted contoller that TBO has and the piano has a really pleasing spectrum of tones from ppp all the way up.

Laurent's TBO + 7CG "shake and bake" works a treat too. I split the load by installing them on two different 7200 rpm drives so the machine is having no problems keeping up with pedal down glisses or anything else I throw at it.

Congrats to Per - these pianos just get better and better.

[Laurent]

Laurent's TBO + 7CG "shake and bake" works a treat too. I split the load by installing them on two different 7200 rpm drives so the machine is having no problems keeping up with pedal down glisses or anything else I throw at it.

Yes and this is a good surprise... Even if the full blend is too heavy to play live for some PC stomach, it could be a good idea to bounce 2 tracks (1 TBO + 1 7CG) when recording a project, for further mixing. You can then fine tune your C7 own sound, from sweet (7CG) to sour (TBO)... :D