Lesson 8 Exercises

[Garritan]

Here is Robert's example for the Summary Exercise using the Horn (http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/melody-brass-summary2-horns-test.mp3)

[Garritan]

Here is a Lesson 8 exercise for Melody in Brass from Jamiha.

http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/th-brass-harmony-les8r.mp3

He used 2 horns, trumpet, trombone and tuba.

Again, excellent work Jamiha. You are getting better with each lesson.

Thanks for sending this and I hope others follow yuor lead and send in their exercises. If you cannot host them email them to me and I will provide a link.

Gary Garritan

[Leaf]

I was playing around with one of the scores to learn from it. I liked Snegouratchka #8 from lesson 6, and Antar from lesson 8, and so I coppied the scores into Finale, noticing alot of similarities in those two and a few others.

I used the score from Antar's patterns of notes, changed notes but kept much of the durations and rythm patterns to make a short score and learned a lot from it. I then changed the durations in a few places here and there but used it as a starting base, because i'm still learning to read music.

Then I coppied and pasted and used the tranpose for doubling and octaves and fifths, etc., and tinkered around some. It has most of what i learned from the lessons, even though some of it has been a bit over my head and I plan to go back over several of the lessons.

It unintentionally veered a tad away from the classical sound i was after but came out sounding kinda cool and I'm finally getting better using Finale. I'm going to add a little pizz Bass or Cello, but haven't done that yet. :)

http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/lesson7&8homework.mp3
It has two Flutes, two Clarinets, two English Horns, Bassoon, Trumpet, French Horn, Harp, Violin and Cello.

[Garritan]

Leaf,

Very nice synopsis of the various lessons. I like what you did with the instrumentation and an excellent application of the material in the lessons. Excellent work! Thanks for posting this and I'm looking forward to hearing more of your work.

Gary Garritan

[Leaf]

Thanks, Gary.

In the Melody-Brass-Summary test examples mp3s, the Trombone one is not working, messed up link.

Good grief, who did those? The melody-brass-summary1-horn-test.mp3 is surely among the most beautiful things ever written, it almost brings a tear to my eye, no matter how many times i listen to it. The bar has been set very very high, I'm going to have to get binoculars.

[Leaf]

Ok im reluctant to say so as I prefer to be anon alot of the time, but I did the backings and used the same melody I initially wrote from the starting excercises and just kept transfering it to the different backings I created. Usually stay anon, but I am humbled by your statement. Thanks again.You are welcome, Robert. Wow, I didn't realize it was the same. This must be the background it was aways meant to be with. I don't mind wearing out another mouse clicking it, but it really needs to be longer and on a CD, it's only 25 seconds long and i honestly believe it is the prettiest music I have ever heard in my life.

[Leaf]

http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/Lesson8MelodyBrassSummary1b.mp3

Here is my MelodyBrassSummary exersize, with 4 french Horns and one trombone in unison. It had 2 trombones, but even with several volume adjustments it was still over powering, so I took one out. I also deleted a quarter note that was beside an sixteenth rest in the middle of the trombone's stave, so he or she could take a breath, which isn't too noticable but I was curious if that is enough time for a player to take a breath.


edit: i found that the problem wasn't the trombone but one of the frenchhorns which i changed from solo to a section player and put the tombone back in.

[benhillyard]

Hi all,
here's a couple of my brass exercises. Not sure about the second one; tried to go for a cheeky 'raspberry' effect at the end - can't make up my mind if it works or not.

R-K melody brass octaves
http://www.bigupload.com/d=FD5CD317

R-K melody brass 3rds and 6ths
http://www.bigupload.com/d=DB9AAD0A

scores (zipped jpgs, brass only)
http://www.bigupload.com/d=781A5B9B

Ben

[Garritan]

Hi all,
here's a couple of my brass exercises. Not sure about the second one; tried to go for a cheeky 'raspberry' effect at the end - can't make up my mind if it works or not.

R-K melody brass octaves
http://www.bigupload.com/d=FD5CD317

R-K melody brass 3rds and 6ths
http://www.bigupload.com/d=DB9AAD0A

scores (zipped jpgs, brass only)
http://www.bigupload.com/d=781A5B9B

BenBen, I wanted to hear your examples but the hosting was a bit problematic. First you have to wait 30 second (probably to view the ads), then type in a funny code number, then download a zip file to your computer, then unzip it and then finally play.

I would really like to listen to what you have done. If you want, just email me the files and I can host it with a direct mp3 link and it will be much easier for everyone to listen.

Thanks for posting these.

Gary Garritan

[Garritan]

http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/Lesson8MelodyBrassSummary1b.mp3

Here is my MelodyBrassSummary exersize, with 4 french Horns and one trombone in unison. It had 2 trombones, but even with several volume adjustments it was still over powering, so I took one out. I also deleted a quarter note that was beside an sixteenth rest in the middle of the trombone's stave, so he or she could take a breath, which isn't too noticable but I was curious if that is enough time for a player to take a breath.


Leaf,

An excellent job and a beautiful melody. I think you did okay with the breathes. You keep getting better.

Thanks for posting this.

Gary Garritan

[Garritan]

Here are Ben Hillyard's brass exercises.

R-K melody brass octaves:
mp3:http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/bh-melody-brass-3-4octave-benh.mp3
Score:http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/bh-melody-brass-3-4octave-benh.jpg

R-K melody brass 3rds and 6ths
mp3:http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/bh-melody-brass-3-6-benh.mp3
score:http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/bh-melody-brass-3-6-benh.jpg

Very good work Ben:). You certain show a grasp of the material. Thanks for sending these!

Gary Garritan

[Garritan]

Tom Graczkowski sent in his Lesson 8 exercise.

http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/tg-brass_exercise.mp3

Tom's exercise consisted of: Trumpet (I) doubled by Horns (I & II) in 5ths, 4ths and 3rds, followed by a Tenor Trombone (I) doubling the Trumpet an octave below with the Tuba doubling an octave below the Tenor Trombone.

Very nice work Tom. It seems you have a good grasp of the lesson.

I appreciate your sending this in. :)

Gary Garritan

[Leaf]

http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BWU1a.mp3
This is the brass/woodwind unison exersize at the beginning of lesson 9.

the melody has playing in unison:
2 Flutes (apart from two flutes already in background)
1 English horn
1 Small Clarinet
4 French Horns
2 Trumpets

2 Trombones at one octave lower.

The Trumpets only play three measures, in the forth measure they are replaced by a 2nd player of English Horn and a 2nd player of Small Clarinet + Lush Viola and Cello. (but since those strings are only one layer, i think they were not heard.)

A harmony was added by 2 Trombones and 2 Tubas.

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Here is how it was before too much was added, I think it sounded better when it was only 2 Futes+1 SmallClarinet+2 FrenchHorns+1Trumpet with an English Horn and Small Clarinet replacing the Trumpet in fourth measure, so I may find something less weighty than Trombone and Tuba and add the harmony to it... just to see what it sounds like.
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BWU1b.mp3

The top one sounds better with just the octave lower trombones removed.
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BWU1aX.mp3

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Even though it didn't turn out that great, and i got lost on the right numbers to use of each when grouping, i like the size of the backgrounds we are using. They seem like the perfect size, I think by adding the melody and instruments, then changing it around and tweeking it, I'm learning the best way to work on or fine tune a larger piece, just about a four measure chunk of it at a time.

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http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BrssWdwndUnison1.pdf

This is the score pdf, it has very thin staves and are spread too wide, can anyone tell me how to fix that in Finale?

[belkina]

Real life balance, as opposed to in a simulation:

Once you have horns and trumpets on a line in unison, adding woodwind makes pretty much no difference.

Also, the small clarinet does not belong here, it is mainly a top end instrument.

http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BWU1a.mp3
This is the brass/woodwind unison exersize at the beginning of lesson 9.

the melody has playing in unison:
2 Flutes (apart from two flutes already in background)
1 English horn
1 Small Clarinet
4 French Horns
2 Trumpets

2 Trombones at one octave lower.

The Trumpets only play three measures, in the forth measure they are replaced by a 2nd player of English Horn and a 2nd player of Small Clarinet + Lush Viola and Cello. (but since those strings are only one layer, i think they were not heard.)

A harmony was added by 2 Trombones and 2 Tubas.

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Here is how it was before too much was added, I think it sounded better when it was only 2 Futes+1 SmallClarinet+2 FrenchHorns+1Trumpet with an English Horn and Small Clarinet replacing the Trumpet in fourth measure, so I may find something less weighty than Trombone and Tuba and add the harmony to it... just to see what it sounds like.
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BWU1b.mp3

The top one sounds better with just the octave lower trombones removed.
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BWU1aX.mp3

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Even though it didn't turn out that great, and i got lost on the right numbers to use of each when grouping, i like the size of the backgrounds we are using. They seem like the perfect size, I think by adding the melody and instruments, then changing it around and tweeking it, I'm learning the best way to work on or fine tune a larger piece, just about a four measure chunk of it at a time.

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http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/BrssWdwndUnison1.pdf

This is the score pdf, it has very thin staves and are spread too wide, can anyone tell me how to fix that in Finale?

[Leaf]

Thanks Prof. Belkin.

I'll change those clarinets.
So in real life to get the sound close to that of that lighter weight mp3, I would keep the trumpet and lose French horns? I may have thrown it all out of balance by changing the volumes, probably should have left them at their default settings.

David

[belkina]

Horns will soften the trumpet a bit. Woodwind won't do much.

Thanks Prof. Belkin.

I'll change those clarinets.
So in real life to get the sound close to that of that lighter weight mp3, I would keep the trumpet and lose French horns? I may have thrown it all out of balance by changing the volumes, probably should have left them at their default settings.

David

[greatgreybeast]

Melody in 3-4 Octaves:
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/61911/melody-brass-3-4octave-robint.mp3

Three octaves, 4 horns above 2 trombones above bass trombone and tuba. I'm not entirely happy with this voicing - RK mentions that horns above trombones is not "reliable." I'm not quite sure exactly why, but he's right - I can't get them to blend together well in octaves (they sound marvelous in unison, though).


Melody in 3rds and 6ths:
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/61911/melody-brass-3-6-robint.mp3

Three trumpets (muted). First and second trumpets begin in 6ths, and then the 3rd trumpet enters in 4ths. In other words, triads in first inversion.


Summary 1:
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/61911/melody-brass-summary1-robint.mp3

Solo horn. I used to play horn myself, so I approached this exercise with particular reverence. :)


Summary 2:
http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/61911/melody-brass-summary2-robint.mp3

Four horns and three trombones in unison.


One more down. Thanks for listening.

-Robin

[stevebryson]

Hi - Here are my lesson 8 exercises.

Exercise 1: mp3, (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-3-4octave-steve.mp3) and score. (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-3-4octave-steve-score.pdf) A three-octave displacement with 2 trumpet, 1 french horn and 1 trombone ensembles.

Exercse 2: mp3, (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-3-6-steve.mp3) and score. (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-3-6-steve-score.pdf) Repeates twice: 1) 2 french horns ensembles in lower thirds, 2) 2 french horns ensemblesupper thirds + octave doubling by a solo trumpet.

Summary exercise 1: mp3, (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-summary1-steve.mp3) and score. (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-summary1-steve-score.pdf) Three times: 1) a french horn solo, 2) a trumpet solo (lifting the last half of the melody by an octave to stay in range), 3) french horn solo and french horn ensemble in unison + softer solo trumpet.

Summary exercise 2: mp3, (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-summary2-steve.mp3) and score. (http://homepage.mac.com/stevepur/GPO/melody-brass-summary2-steve-score.pdf) Four times: 1) 4 Fr. horn ensembles + f overlay, 2) 2 trumpet ensembles + trumpet solo, 3) 3 Trombone ensembles, 4) 3 Fr. horn + 2 trombone + 1 trumpet ensembles.

I hope you enjoy them. Comments, suggestions welcome!
steve

[Garritan]

Robin,

Well done! Your muted trumpets worked very well in the Melody in 3rds and 6ths exercise. The solo horn melody in summary exercise 1 is especially beautiful and shows you must be a horn player. And the horns in Summary exercise 2 are just grand. You really shine with the horns!

Keep up the good work and thanks for posting these.

Gary Garritan

[Garritan]

Steve,

Terrifc work with the exercises. Excellent melodies with the brass on all of them. What impressed me was that you went beyond the call of the exercises and repeated them with different instruments. I appreciate your creativity and initiative. Looking forward to hearing more.

Gary Garritan

[Aleksandar]

Hello,

here are my examples from lesson 8:

Horn and trombone in unison (http://www.esnips.com/doc/b2c395a2-f6fe-4fdc-ac19-72ca7d315ca2/Melody-in-the-Brass-Instruments---Summary-Exercise-1-Horn-and-trombone-in-unison.mp3)

Solo trumpet (http://www.esnips.com/doc/0c5aa63c-ae4e-48d7-920a-99ad7bb7fd7d/Melody-in-the-Brass-Instruments---Summary-Exercise-1-Solo-Trumpet.mp3)

Octave displacements (Horn and trombone play in octaves, two trumpets in octaves)3 (http://www.esnips.com/doc/71f7e54f-6b25-484e-a21e-6424638839e9/Melody-in-the-Brass-Instruments---Summary-Exercise-1-octave-displacements.mp3)

Best regards,

Aleksandar

[Garritan]

Haggai has sent in his Lesson 8 Exercises:

Thirds and Sixths Exercise: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8ThirdsSixths.mp3
Three and four Octave Displacement Exercise: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-ThreeFourOctaveDisplacement.mp3

Summary Exercise 1:

Version 1 - Trumpet: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8Summary1-Ver1-Trumpet.mp3
Version 2 Horn: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8Summary1-Ver2-Horn.mp3
Version 3 Two horns: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8Summary1-Ver3-TwoHorn.mp3


Summary Exercise 2:

Version 1 4 horns: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8Summary2-Ver1-FourHorn.mp3
Version 2 Three trumpets: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8Summary2-Ver2-ThreeTrumpets.mp3
Version 3 Three trombones: http://www.garritan.com/RK/exercises/HagaiDavidoff-Ch8Summary2-Ver3-ThreeTrombones.mp3

Very good work Haggai. You are becoming an ideal student and improving all the time. Keep up the good work!

Gary Garritan