GigaStusio 160 and Pulsar II. Is that ok ?

[talkover]

Hi,

I\'m running a Pc with 2 pulsar II (PIII 800, AsusCUSL2C, 2x45 go IBM U100, 512mo ram). I run the sts 4000 but I want to move for gigastudio cause the STS have to much limitation for my work. I\'m running a digital performer 2,8 on mac with PT24mix+. I use the PC as an external sampler and I use a D8B for mixing. Before I move to giga, is that working fine with pulsar (the latency seems to be higher than other soundcards). Is translator able to convert my 70Go pulsar program to Giga directly from Hd or I have to start again my CD tosting (I use Cdextract for the moment). If not good with pulsar what is the good card ?
Thank you

[LHong]

What I can say is your ASUS-CUSL2 is good mobo for the pulsarII and Gigastudio. I\'m having a few songs in the planetz/music, check them out by your own taste. I think this setup has at least 100-Voice-giga-polyphony without problem.
About coverting samples from STS, I think it sounds fine but the originated-giga-sample sounds much better. That\'s all.

As for me, I would get the gigasampler64 fisrt then determine the needs later, perhaps you can ugrade to gigastudio when you want to.

[talkover]

Thank you lhong,

What about the latency ? Anyway I have to move for gigastudio cause I need up to 16midi channels. But I use an external seq so I have to plug a midi board. That is another prob with pulsar...

[gigaDiga]

Talkover,

I have what sounds like the same configuration as you, except I only have 1 Pulsar 2 card and mine is a PIII 933.

I\'m getting 70 polyphony.

Latency seems fine. Strangely enough you may get more polyphony than me as you have 2 pulsars. I believe LHong, forgive me if I\'m wrong, also has a scope board... this may explain his slightly higher polyphony.

On a majorly positive note, however, my system is totally stable and I am enjoying making music rather than computer maintenance.

peace

[talkover]

Thank you

Well, if the polyphony is 70 it\'s really fine for me, even for orchestral tracks. The number of midi channels is much more important to me. 32 is a minimum ,that\'s why I have to buy a midi expansion board with the pulsar. It\'s the only way to have 32 midi channels input from an external seq. Am I right ?

[talkover]

Lhong,

A guy from my company is in your city for the GDC actually. If you\'re going try to take contact. Bye

[LHong]

Takeover,
About the MIDI issue: You\'ll probably need serial-MIDI ports for giga like Midiman.
About latency, I see about 13ms on the pulsar and 63~92ms for the Cakewalk9.03.

[LHong]

gigaDiga,
Well, honestly, I see you can only get 70 voice polyphony on the pulsarII is not quite right. You might check the setup, I mean that many various hardware setting up to improve the performance such as multiple-HD, CPUpriority, video card, memory@PC133, no other programs, MIDI-prots, MIDI-audio-Program (no Crakle version), etc.
As far as I know, the GSIF driver for Creamware product-lines are same, regardless of Pulsar or Scope. Surely, I have tried the GSIF\'s pulsarII before the Scope-SP, I did get fully functional at 145-voice polyphony. No kidding!!!
Anyway, just a reference, hope this helps.

Long

[talkover]

Lhong and Giga,

You aren\'t running your sequencer in the same machine as your pulsar and GS, are you ? My dream is to have logic, pulsar or scope and GS on the same PC. Is that a dream ? My problem is that the asus CUSL2C only accept 512 mo. Short for everything ? Why this limit ?

[LHong]

Takeover,
About MIDI-seq with Giga, yes I did have pulsar I + Pulsar II with cakewalk9.03 and GigaStudio in same machine (MIDI and Audio, side-by-side). The song in the planetz site as an example. I don\'t know about Logic? I\'m having it, never got it worked sucessfully. Maybe someone can helps this better?
About the ASUS-CUSL2, I know with 512MB is not a lot but for me at the moment, it\'s fairly enough for giga, you\'ll probably have the polyphony up to the limited before the memory-limited. Why 512MB is limit? that is the Intel chipset is limited to, nothing we can do about! Perhaps, someone here has mentioned about win98/Me, maybe these platform also be limited to 512~768MB.
Conclusion: Wins2000 supporting.
Hope this helps,
Long

[This message has been edited by LHong (edited 03-21-2001).]

[talkover]

Thank you Lhong. I\'m receiving Giga 160 at the beginning of next week. I just bought a scope SP, I think it will be better for my use. I don\'t want to use a hard console anymore!! For seq, I think it\'s better to keep my external mac for Midi and DTD in order to have scope and giga free on the PC.

[gigaDiga]

Thanks for the info LHong, I\'ll go back and double check that I can\'t optimise my system a little more...

talkover,
I\'m running Pulsar2 and Cakewalk on the same computer. I get 70 voices when playing, and more like 120 when playingback from cakewalk.
From what I\'ve heard both cubase and logic seem to be alot more difficult to setup with GigaStudio. Cakewalk is just plug&play. So composing with Sequencer & GigaStudio on one computer IS a reality.

I have yet to make anything as complicated/taxing as an orchestral score so you may find your demands differ from mine.

[Simon Ravn]

In my search for a better, digital, setup, I am now interested in all this Pulsar talk. I am eyeing a setup consisting of a Pulsar II on one machine and an RME Digi9652 on the other, the RME doing the HD recording, the Pulsar doing Giga+synths maybe. And then getting a digital mixer to be able to run ADAT all the way. However one reason I\'ll be getting Pulsar is for then synths. Did anyone try making some \'phat\' dance leads on any synths, or hear anything made by anyone in that style? I heard one of the demo tunes on Creamwares site had a pretty good dance lead, but apart from that most demos have pretty boring synths.

[talkover]

Simon,

I really think you can find all the \"phat\" sounds you need in Pulsar. To my point of you, the synths like blue synth or miniskope are able to generate that big sound. The inferno can make huge bass, well it\'s really amazing. I can send you some elctronic sounds I made with Pulsar for the game \"Nikita\", you will test by your own. I have the virus for protools and it\'s also amazing for a virtual stuff. I think you don\'t need a digital mixer. I just sold my D8B to move to the scope, cause if you have 3 machines to control for a song, I think you lose something. You have to check your DTD, your console, your seq your pulsar on separate keyboards, it\'s boring. You can route 16 adats in the pulsar bigmixer in conjonction with all the synths. That\'s all. If you want a a good reverb, try the sonic timeworks or an external reverb via Spdif or Aes. Anyway if you plan to buy a digital mixer and a pulsar II, for the same price take a scope SP. You will have all the dsp you need for a 48 voices console, all your synths and good reverbs in the same machine. hope this post will help you.

[Simon Ravn]

Thanks a lot for your reply, and yes please, let me hear what you\'ve done with the Pulsar. I just ordered the Pulsar 2 - don\'t have the cash for the digital mixer right now, so I\'ll use the Pulsar 2 as synth+HD recording, Gigastudio still running on my Gina20... http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif My email is: melo@marble-eyes.dk

Thanks

[Babarouche]

About the 815\'s 512 MB RAM limit: isn\'t 512 MB\'s of RAM running at 133 mgHz roughly the equivalent of 768 MB of RAM running at 100 mgHz? Or am I wrong?

[talkover]

Well, I don\'t know if it represents 768 mb in 133 but when I open the sts5000, I only have 300 mb left !!!. I really don\'t know. Simon, you will have a song on monday, I\'m actually having a week-end with my little boy ... but with a powerbook !! oups !!

[Simon Ravn]

Babarouche, you really mix something up here http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif RAM speed and RAM amount has nothing to do with eachother. 512MB is 512MB no matter what speed your RAM is running, and running your RAM at a higher speed won\'t give you more of it! http://www.northernsounds.com/ubb/NonCGI/images/icons/smile.gif