What is wrong with SoundBlaster?

[Radu Lupu]

Does anybody knows why it is better to have a more specialized card than Soundblaster to use with Gigasampler?

If I do not record, why would I need such a card?

[esteven1]

Sound Blasters are ok for just practicing or whatever. Some of them are pretty noisy though and the convertors aren\'t that great. Plug one of them into a mixer and you\'ll see how noisy they can be.

[Doug Marshall]

The Soundblaster cards are fine for casual use but they are behind the fidelity of Gigasampler and its sound libraries. The reason people want to use better sound cards is because they want a system where all the components are of comparable quality - no weak links. So, as the popular gameshow goes, \"Soundblaster, you are the weakest link. Goodbye!\"

[Radu Lupu]

If I understand correctly the two previous posts, a SoundBlaster card output is noisy, so when I plug my card into another device, it will not be very good, right?

Is the line input also a problem?

Now, if I only produce my stuff directly on my PC, is SoundBlaster still an issue? Let\'s say I record some MIDI stuff though a sequencer with Giga samples. Then I capture the stuff as audio, I edit it, and I burn it on CD. Is there still a weakest link?

[Doug Marshall]

Giga has its own capture to wave function. Can anyone verify that this works independently of the quality of the sound card? If it does, then your Soundblaster wouldn\'t be a problem. On the other hand, only you can determine if your SB card is quiet and clean enough for your own purposes.

[JG]

I use sblive, including its reverb effects, and I have detected some noise, but barely audible. Since the reverb effects are hardware-based, they seem clearer to me than even the best plugin reverb effect, including waves Rverb. Having said that, I\'m sure there are better effects cards as far as reverb is concerned. But Cake and GS compatibility are the issue. Some folks like the reverb on Universal Audio\'s effects card. A subject for another discussion.

[This message has been edited by JG (edited 10-20-2001).]

[Gav]

The capture to wave function in GS occurs on the harddrive only. You\'re soundcard will not affect the quality of the wav file at all. You could, if you wanted, just use your soundblaster card to monitor while you compose and then capture to wave.
Basically, if you want to ALWAYS capture to wave then you don\'t need to worry what kind of soundcard you have.
If your audio editor resides on your GS PC then you have nothing else to worry about. If not then you\'re going to have to figure out Networking or a CD-Burner or something to get those big .wav files off your GS PC and into your audio editor.

Gav

[Giorgio Tommasini]

I use a Soundscape Mixtreme plus a Soundblaster live with digital I/O. The Mixtreme clock is driven by the SB at 48 kHz. The Giga output is digitally routed to the SB to get pure reverb, which is then added to the original signal within the Mixtreme mixer. This setting yields real time reverb of excellent quality without any load on CPU. It also allows to add different amounts of verb to the individual channels.

Giorgio

[This message has been edited by Giorgio Tommasini (edited 11-12-2001).]

[Archangel]

I got Sound Blaster Audigy (100db SNR...) , and it is very clean.

But why doesn\'t GS recognize my card under Windows 2000/XP??? Because of the f****ing WDM drivers from soundblaster or only GS that doesn\'t want to support my sound card?

I would like very very much to use my Audigy Platinum on Windows XP, where the disk and memory management are FAR superior than crappy Win98, OS on which I\'m stuck with because of this.

Archangel

[Bill]

As I said in the other thread, the Audigy’s not a GSIF card, and not supported under Win2K.

Are you a beta tester for v2.5? If not, why are you asking these questions? 2.2 doesn’t run under XP. If you are, this isn’t the place to be asking.

[Archangel]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill:
As I said in the other thread, the Audigy’s not a GSIF card, and not supported under Win2K.

Are you a beta tester for v2.5? If not, why are you asking these questions? 2.2 doesn’t run under XP. If you are, this isn’t the place to be asking.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok so I\'ll guess that I\'ll have to wait...

For GS under WinXP, I ran it in compatibility mode for Win98 and it worked....it just said that no GSIF compatible card was detected...

Archangel

[Bill]

The nature of the “simple” question indicated a high likelihood that the poor guy was using a pirated copy of GSt 2.5.

[clavguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill:
As I said in the other thread, the Audigy’s not a GSIF card, and not supported under Win2K.

Are you a beta tester for v2.5? If not, why are you asking these questions? 2.2 doesn’t run under XP. If you are, this isn’t the place to be asking.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Geesh... the poor guy just asked a simple question.. Did you really have to come down on him like that?

[clavguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill:
The nature of the “simple” question indicated a high likelihood that the poor guy was using a pirated copy of GSt 2.5.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You know Bill... I went back to read his original post to see if he had said anything to indicate he was running GS v2.5. I didn\'t see any. BUT.... I did notice that he was yelling and swearing.

I have a SBLive and have come to the realization that if one is to do \"pro\" audio processing one needs a \"pro\" sound card. SBLive is NOT a pro card. I hope you accept my appology Bill for questioning you in my previous post....

Have a good holiday

[Bill]

No apology necessary!

[Bill]

As long as the Flying Calf can handle the SB\'s 48k output.

[ltroide]

Thanks, Bill. The Flying Calf is supposed to handle 50k and lower, so I guess I\'m OK. -- Lars

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill:
As long as the Flying Calf can handle the SB\'s 48k output.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[ltroide]

I\'ve just joined this Forum. I have SB Live Value (without the Digital I/O) on my new computer, and Gigasampler 1.0 (which I have to reinstall). Can I use Gigasampler employing the Digital Out from the Live soundcard? (I have a Midiman Flying Calf D/A converter which I suppose I\'ll have to use again?) Any advice greatly appreciated. Regards, -- Lars <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG:
I use sblive, including its reverb effects, and I have detected some noise, but barely audible. Since the reverb effects are hardware-based, they seem clearer to me than even the best plugin reverb effect, including waves Rverb. Having said that, I\'m sure there are better effects cards as far as reverb is concerned. But Cake and GS compatibility are the issue. Some folks like the reverb on Universal Audio\'s effects card. A subject for another discussion.

[This message has been edited by JG (edited 10-20-2001).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[VladRox]

Hi everybody,
Yesterday I found very interesting link>SBLive independant driver /I haven\'t try it yet but I\'m going to soon!/...maybe another topic for discusion? There is the link:http://people.freenet.de/apslive/
Regards Vlad

[VladRox]

Hi,
How come I posted at several threads and I\'m always the last?
So I\'ve tried drivers> it look a bit chaotic to me especialy the way you have to perform the instalation. Can not use SF2 no SoundFont manager ...I went back to original SB drivers, just install what you realy need and works so far so good for me. Any other suggestion or experience?
Regards Vlad

[Archangel]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bill:
The nature of the “simple” question indicated a high likelihood that the poor guy was using a pirated copy of GSt 2.5.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why do you accuse me of having pirated software?

I guess I have to clear things out there.... I have Gigastudio 2.20 , and it is not a pirated copy...I tried to run 2.20 in XP and it didn\'t want to start. I tried to make it work in \"compatibility mode\". It started, but told me \"no sound card detected\". I realised later that there was a public beta version of GS 2.5 on the Nemesys site. I entered the registration code and downloaded the beta. I realised it wouldn\'t work with my sound card...said it wouldn\'t detect it. I read in this forum that in 2k/XP, GS didn\'t want to use vxd drivers...that I would need GSIF drivers...I ran GS2.5 in compatibility mode for Windows 98 to see if this would \"fool\" the program, thinking it would detect my sound card as in windows 98 , and it didn\'t.

On my reply, I told \"I guess I\'ll have to wait\". You seemed to have read this like \"I\'ll wait for a new pirated version\" . What I meant was to wait for new Audigy drivers that would be GSIF, or Nemesys supporting WDM. Well, neither Creative Labs nor Nemesys will support WDM with Gigastudio yet .... so I\'m going to buy a M-Audio Audiophile to work in Windows XP.

I don\'t want any pirated things, I do commercial work, pirated copies is clearly not an option for me.

Archangel


[This message has been edited by Archangel (edited 02-15-2002).]

[Archangel]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VladRox:
Hi,
How come I posted at several threads and I\'m always the last?
So I\'ve tried drivers> it look a bit chaotic to me especialy the way you have to perform the instalation. Can not use SF2 no SoundFont manager ...I went back to original SB drivers, just install what you realy need and works so far so good for me. Any other suggestion or experience?
Regards Vlad<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personnaly, I would wait. Those drivers are still in a kind of \"beta\" stage. You can use GS with it in Win98 though. But I\'ve reverted to the original SB drivers because the interface is more user-friendly...

Archangel