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runamuck
10-31-2006, 12:29 PM
I'm building a new computer.
Can someone direct me to a site listing the latest
tweaks for Win XP for audio? I'm using a Core 2 Duo
w/ 4GB RAM
Thanks
Jim
Richard Berg
10-31-2006, 06:46 PM
Configure the indexing service so it won't touch your audio drive -- shouldn't be necessary, but it won't hurt. Make sure that Automatic Updates are set to run at a time you're not there (default = 3am, so move it to 9am if you're prone to late-night recording sessions like me). Leave everything else alone.
runamuck
10-31-2006, 10:22 PM
Configure the indexing service so it won't touch your audio drive -- shouldn't be necessary, but it won't hurt. Make sure that Automatic Updates are set to run at a time you're not there (default = 3am, so move it to 9am if you're prone to late-night recording sessions like me). Leave everything else alone.
Boy, that sure isn't the way it used to be. You're sure?
BTW: Thanks.
Jim
Daryl
11-01-2006, 07:21 AM
Most of the "old" tweaks are totally unnecessary these days as PCs are so much more powerful than they used to be. The only other things that you might want to consider is not allowing Windows to "turn off" your USB ports if you have any dongles plugged in, and using the /3gig switch if you want to use up to 3GB within one project. If you are going to be running samples outside of your project (in a standalone app) then this might not be necessary.
D
Haydn
11-01-2006, 02:42 PM
The main tweak I do is get rid of the 'eye candy'. Right click on My Computer and select Properties. Click on the Advanced tab. Then select the Settings button in the Performance section. On the Visual Effects tab I select 'Adjust for best performance' which will shut off the visual effects. These things just eat up memory and CPU power.
I disable virus scanners, firewalls and other background programs not necessary for making music. I recommend that you have a hardware firewall which is found in most wired or wireless routers these days. If you don't have the hardware firewall, then disconnect your network cable before disabling virus scanners and firewalls.
Jim
alanb
11-01-2006, 05:48 PM
Most of the "old" tweaks are totally unnecessary these days as PCs are so much more powerful than they used to be. I don't know whether these tweaks are the "old" ones, but I employed most of them on my Giga system:
http://musicxp.net/tuning_tips.php
TASCAM now refers to that same page in its Giga FAQ:
http://tascamgiga.com/faq.html#WinXP
There's always something of a toss-up between not wanting to mess with a system that's already performing satisfactorily, and not wanting even the tiniest thing to interfere with an important recording/mixing session.
I suggest (having done so myself) employing every one of those tuning tips that you understand, and inquiring (here or elsewhere) about the significance and consequences of the ones that you don't understand.
Richard Berg
11-01-2006, 07:44 PM
Boy, that sure isn't the way it used to be.
Yes it is. "Tweak" articles have always been about selling magazines (or driving webpage hits), not improving performance. In the vast majority of cases, they either don't help or run the risk of screwing something up.
When was the last time you saw Mark Russinovich, Jeffrey Richter, or other respected Windows authorities recommend a "tweak" site? The reason fewer and less invasive "tweaks" are being passed around now is that nontechnical people are finally getting the message.
The main tweak I do is get rid of the 'eye candy'. Right click on My Computer and select Properties. Click on the Advanced tab. Then select the Settings button in the Performance section. On the Visual Effects tab I select 'Adjust for best performance' which will shut off the visual effects. These things just eat up memory and CPU power.
Actually, "pretty" effects and normal effects are both accelerated by your video hardware. I suppose it's possible for a poorly written (or extremely old) video driver to cause excess CPU usage during some effects & not others. IMO, you shouldn't be playing with window animations during real-time recording anyway! :)
I disable virus scanners, firewalls and other background programs not necessary for making music.
This is a good one. I don't run these kinds of programs personally, but if you do, make sure at minimum you configure them not to touch your audio drives. Disabling them entirely while the network is unplugged couldn't hurt.
I suggest (having done so myself) employing only tuning tips that you understand, and inquiring (here or elsewhere) about the significance and consequences of the ones that you don't understand.
Absolutely. There are lots of knowledgeable posters here -- feel free to ask about any specific issues you're having.
runamuck
11-01-2006, 10:29 PM
Configure the indexing service so it won't touch your audio drive -- shouldn't be necessary, but it won't hurt. Make sure that Automatic Updates are set to run at a time you're not there (default = 3am, so move it to 9am if you're prone to late-night recording sessions like me). Leave everything else alone.
Thanks to you Richard and everyone else for the advice.
I dont quite understand what you mean in the above when you say to "configure the idexing service so it wont touch the hard drive".
I'm not hooked to the net on this computer so.....
Thanks again,
Jim
derekderek
11-01-2006, 11:11 PM
I think that many of the tweaks are necessary. "Let Windows do its job" doesn't really cut it for me. Windows has A LOT of jobs, 50% of which I don't need happening while I'm working. Granted, it takes a bit of know-how to properly tweak it if you're messing with services or the registry. But the fact is, the combined effect of each of the tiny tweaks is huge. You can save a lot of memory, not to mention speeding up the GUI.
It does depend on how much memory, etc you've got as well, but interface tweaks (like menushowdelay) can go a long way even if you've got 4gb of memory and a 98ghz processor because it is timer-based.
After many a tweak, my audio latency went WAY down...not only in milliseconds, but it was enough that it made a difference in how i record.
runamuck
11-01-2006, 11:15 PM
I think that many of the tweaks are necessary.
Which ones? And who do I believe?
Jim
Richard Berg
11-02-2006, 12:48 AM
Jim:
http://richardberg.net/bin/temp/disable_indexing.png
runamuck
11-02-2006, 03:59 AM
Richard,
Thanks very much. I really appreciate that.
Jim
geronimo001
11-02-2006, 04:46 AM
Jim:
http://richardberg.net/bin/temp/disable_indexing.png
Can i do this in SP1?...I the search but couldn't find anything...
geronimo001
11-02-2006, 04:59 AM
Well i have a french copy of windows so that explains why i cant find it.:rolleyes: Now how TF am i suppose to know how they call that thing in french...index royal?;)
Daryl
11-02-2006, 05:07 AM
After many a tweak, my audio latency went WAY down...not only in milliseconds, but it was enough that it made a difference in how i record.
I'm glad that it worked for you. I already record at 1.5ms latency, so if I could reduce that then I'd be very happy. :>))
D
derekderek
11-02-2006, 01:24 PM
I'm glad that it worked for you. I already record at 1.5ms latency, so if I could reduce that then I'd be very happy. :>))
D
1.5ms? Isn't there an automatic >3ms latency from the OS(Any OS)? Maybe you're referring to the hardware monitoring latency. Which card/box is it?
Daryl
11-02-2006, 03:05 PM
RME Multiface
D
derekderek
11-02-2006, 05:47 PM
I see what you mean, the driver buffer latency. I'm able to get .7ms at 32 samples and 1.3ms at 64. But it runs more smoothly at 256 samples when doing large sampler-based stuff. The ASIO latency is where I'm gettng the 8ms because (I assume) it is accounting for the OS and ASIO throughput latency and adding that to the soundcard latency. I'd be interested to see some numbers from OSX with the audiofire. Then again, I'd rather just go write some music. ~|
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