Where are my keySwitches?

[rikp]

I just upgraded to version 2 and when I load in Strad, I can't see any keyswitches in the keyboard. I have expanded the keyboard etc. Also when I get info from the left side, it tells me that version 1.08 is loaded. When I removed version 1.08, I still can't get my keyswitches to show in the Kontatk player keyboard. So, I can't change articulations etc. Did I miss a big something?:confused:

Peace

rikp

[Nickie Fønshauge]

So, I can't change articulations etc. Did I miss a big something?:confused:
You can change articulations, the KeySwitches are still there in the usual octave, they just don't show up as pink. You will have to find them by trial and error.

[Giorgio Tommasini]

Not by trial and error, Nickie. Rather, by reading the manual, and taking as a reference what you read in the articulations window.

Perhaps you've noticed, "Sordino, Mono, Spiccato Attack, Bow Change" :)

Giorgio

[rikp]

Still a no go. There may be bigger issues at hand here:

When I go to the left hand side of Kontakt2 player there is no library showing under instruments. When I select the info button and choose my Garritan Strad folder, located on an external firewire drive. It will not allow me to choose Thye Stradivari Violin v.2.01 P.nki located in the instruments window. It is grayed out.

Even though I have removed version 1.08, in the library info window it is still showing up, but I have red xs on both boxes.

If I load the strad 2 via the load/save window at the top of Kontackt player 2, I can get it to load but no keyswitchs will work, I have tried every possible key.

Help!!

Peace

rikp

[Crossingsound]

I also don't have any keyswitches that are working. I have tried all the corresponding keys and nothing has changed. It still sounds great, but it would be awesome to get those articulations working. Great library by the way

[gpax]

I just received and installed as well, and no working and/or visible keyswitches. Also, I only get the front end of the attack on the samples, everything else is distant and not functioning properly. I'm very confused here - followed the manual to the letter.

I've tried reinstalling the library - and still get the same thing. Loaded in Kontatk 2, the same as well.

I'm suspecting an issue with the installation disk. Help!

pax

[Garritan]

Some keyboards have differing octaves - some C3=middle C, some it is C4 or C5. Try it an octave up or down and see if that makes a difference.

Gary Garritan

[gpax]

Hi Gary

I wish it were that simple. I posted more details on another thread - though rikp's sounded similar. I can't do anymore until New Years anyway.

Have a great holiday!

pax

[Nickie Fønshauge]

This is where you find the KeySwitches:

http://www.foenshauge.dk/images/temp/Stradivari_KS.png

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Also, I only get the front end of the attack on the samples, everything else is distant and not functioning properly.

You need to raise CC#11 (Expression; default is "0"). It controls volume/timbre.

[Crossingsound]

Ok, After updating all of the software, I have now gotten my keyswitches to finally work. It did not work before, trust me, I tried everything. So Maybe it took the software update to make it all work.

[gpax]

Thanks Nickie and all

It's most likely a hardware issue then - I'm going to try (mapping) a different controller tonight for cc 11. I'll start by drawing in via an editor also.

I had assumed the second out on my keyboard was expression - apparently it's cc 7. I'm reading another thread about solutions for those in my predicament.

pax

[tfishbein82]

Thanks Nickie and all

It's most likely a hardware issue then - I'm going to try (mapping) a different controller tonight for cc 11. I'll start by drawing in via an editor also.

I had assumed the second out on my keyboard was expression - apparently it's cc 7. I'm reading another thread about solutions for those in my predicament.

pax
I recommend you try reading your keyboards' manual. The simplest solution with most keyboards is simply assigning a different cc to the slider or pedal. For example, my Alesis QS8 has 4 cc sliders which can be set to any cc and 2 expression pedals that can be set to any cc. The factory defaults on the pedals I believe to be cc7 and cc11, but with a quick read of the manual, those are easy to change.

Perhaps though, your keyboard does not allow this. I don't know. Good luck.

[gpax]

Thanks for the input -

Sorry I jumped the gun on this - My againg controller does not allow me to reassign this, and I assumed it was an expresion pedal (it's volume only). I did assign cc 11 to a knob on my Trigger Finger, and I don't need to tell everyone what happened!

Of course I'm disappointed that I can't control this with the foot at this point.

I've read through some other suggestions and alternatives - does anyone make a foot controller-only for something like this? I was reading about some software options. Of course I'm able to play now and hear the wonderful sound, only I need three hands.

pax

[Nickie Fønshauge]

does anyone make a foot controller-only for something like this?
It exists. Unfortunately I can't remember the brand. Maybe you can find it by Googling for it.

[spitfire31]

My againg controller does not allow me to reassign this, and I assumed it was an expresion pedal (it's volume only). I did assign cc 11 to a knob on my Trigger Finger, and I don't need to tell everyone what happened!

Of course I'm disappointed that I can't control this with the foot at this point. pax

There are a number of nifty software MIDI re-routers out there. I'm on Mac and use MIDIPipe – it can assign virtually anything to anything.

I'm blissfully ignorant of the Windows world in these matters, but I understand there are several alternatives than can do the same basically very simple task: re-map CC7 to CC11.

/Joey

PS My ancient controller is a vintage DX7 with E! Works like a charm; keyboard is built like a tank...

[mcdoma2000]

This web site has a tool to map CC's to other CC's for PC's...

TenCrazy.com (http://www.tencrazy.com/gadgets/mfx/)

CAVEAT: I have not tried them, as I have not yet needed them, but I've seen references in the Forums to them.

Mark McDowell

[jeraz]

Hi All,

I just received mine today too! I was very excited to replace an existing instrument in one of my songs...MIDI already all there...PO Solo Guarn sounding pretty good....

So, I pop in the Strad and :wow: OMG...what's wrong...

So I dig in...try altering some of the controllers, etc...:confused: Still no joy...

I look for my key switches....nothing seems to work...I start hunting and pecking...I FINALLY get the darned thing off spicatto, which it was stuck on no matter what I pressed...but now it's stuck in downbow...so I start hunting and pecking...what? They trigger keys are all OVER my keyboard...not all together!!! I have an EDIROL PCR-30....not an unusual controller...and it is working well with EVERYTHING....except the Strad...not sure what to do here, but if I can't get it working soon...



Best,

Mark

[jeraz]

OK...just tried it again...it seems that no key is predictable. After hitting SINGLE keys trying to find switches, I tried sometimes hitting two keys together, for example c4 & f3, and the result was these one time put it into normal mode...but then I play in the blue zone of the keyboard, and all of a sudden, it switches to tremelo, or harmonics....I go back and try c4 & f3...can't repeat it...it is truly bizarre...and if I could repeat the trouble with GPO or Kontakt, that would be one thing, but they all work fine...including the key switches in Kontakt. I might have to send it back. :( Is it possible that a bad run was made???

I have some reliable gear here! RME FF800...nice stable system...not sure what's up...

Best,

Mark

[belbin]

Hey Mark,

I also have the pcr 30, and recieved my strad today. The evening was a lot of fun. Here's what I found out about this keyswitch thing:


Forget about blue keys!!
If you transpose your keyboard (using the buttons by the joystick) down one octave, your second highest c ( it is also the second lowest) should be the keyswitch for the default poly/mono mode of playing. Most keys between this and the b above it act as keyswitches for the other articulations as laid out in the manual. However, the aforementioned c is actually, according to my calculations, c 2, where the documentation lists c1 as that first keyswitch. Just remeber that the b below the lowest playing note of the violin is the first keyswitch you find in descending order. C below that is your all important default.

Hope this helps,

Belbin

[Nickie Fønshauge]

When you play your keyboard, you can watch the corresponding keys on the virtual keyboard move. That should help you find the keyswitches and set up a transposition.

[jeraz]

Hey Mark,

I also have the pcr 30, and recieved my strad today. The evening was a lot of fun. Here's what I found out about this keyswitch thing:


Forget about blue keys!!
If you transpose your keyboard (using the buttons by the joystick) down one octave, your second highest c ( it is also the second lowest) should be the keyswitch for the default poly/mono mode of playing. Most keys between this and the b above it act as keyswitches for the other articulations as laid out in the manual. However, the aforementioned c is actually, according to my calculations, c 2, where the documentation lists c1 as that first keyswitch. Just remeber that the b below the lowest playing note of the violin is the first keyswitch you find in descending order. C below that is your all important default.

Hope this helps,

Belbin

Thanks for the try at helping, but I've tansposed up and down the keyboard, tried all sorts of port configurations, etc., long before posting here.

I built my own DAW, so I know it inside out. I know Kontakt, Abysnth, Battery, Intakt, Kompakt, EMU's Emulator-x and Jamstix, and they all work fine on my machine. I am an advanced user of Cubase, Samplitude Pro, and SONAR PE...and I still don't know what's going on.

I am going to give it another day, on and off to figure out. Then I am going to e-Bay.

Hey, these things happen...no hard feelings, just a surprise it happened from Garritan is all...and I am, of course, burned because of the no-refund, group-buy thing. :( Caveat Emptor...it happens.

Best,

Mark

[jeraz]

When you play your keyboard, you can watch the corresponding keys on the virtual keyboard move. That should help you find the keyswitches and set up a transposition.

LOL...of course...and we can also activate them from Piano roll view in most decent MIDI PRV views in DAW host apps...which is how I double-checked that the player, my controller, and, for example, Samplitude or SONAR were all in sync.

But thank you for the tip!

Best,

Mark

[jeraz]

Belbin...

A quick question, if you don't mind...

Are you using USB, or direct with cables into your soundcard? I am on USB...I might try the cables instead...even though everything else works fine...hmmm...

[jeraz]

I fixed it by assigning all the key switches to my L and B buttons, as well as redundancy for 1, 7 , and 11 controllers to left pots and right sliders, as well as to the mod wheel (which I de-springed for the vertical travel)...so now I have extreme right/left/foot flexibility. :)

I'm keeping it.

Best,

Mark

[belbin]

Belbin...

A quick question, if you don't mind...

Are you using USB, or direct with cables into your soundcard? I am on USB...I might try the cables instead...even though everything else works fine...hmmm...

USB....Sorry my suggestion didn't work.

Belbin

[rikp]

OK, sorry that I have been away from this discussion, but the holidays and all. My keyswitches are STILL not working. I have an M-Audio ProStation 88 and have no problem with any other Garritan, VSL, or any other keyswitches. The thing is stuck in spiccato and that is it. I have changed octaves etc. and nothing. I REALLY want to solve this problem and use the software.

Please help!!!!~|


Peace

rikp

[Nickie Fønshauge]

The thing is stuck in spiccato and that is it. I have changed octaves etc. and nothing.
Does it change anything, if you select MIDI channel "Omni"?

[rikp]

I finally did get it to change sounds, but it was not consistant and would only move to two different keyswitches and eventually it got stuck in downbow. Am I the only one having this problem?

Peace

rikp

[loydb]

edit: getting an expression pedal solved all my problems except for my keyboard not transmitting aftertouch (the keyboard's fault, not Strad's).

loyd

[scf3]

I have no keyswitches either. They don't show up on the Kontakt keyboard
and they are not activated by my controller keyboard.