Recommend recorders?

[Ben H]

Hey all,

I am looking for a good recorder sample library.

I am thinking maybe Sampletekk Renaissance Flutes, but they might be a bit too "classical" for what I am looking for.

I am hoping for something more "folk" and earthy.

Do you think that I could get away with using the Sampletekk library or can you suggest something else that might be more appropriate?

Regards,

Ben H

[Ben H]

Thanks for you reply, but I am actually a sax/wx5 player and was hoping to add some recorder sounds to my rig.

I could probably just play the recorders, but I don't want something extra to carry around (especially 5 of them).

I do agree though that learning to play the real thing has merit though.

Ben H

[Nick Batzdorf]

SampleTek has a library that sounded pretty good from the demos.

[Ben H]

SampleTek has a library that sounded pretty good from the demos.


I am thinking maybe Sampletekk Renaissance Flutes, but they might be a bit too "classical" for what I am looking for.

I am hoping for something more "folk" and earthy.

Thanks Nick :p

Anyone know of anything else?

Ben H

[Pingu]

Early Patches and Banchetto Musicale have a bunch of recorders.

http://www.dausenkunz.de/

There are quite a few user demos on the site, so you can get an idea of whether they're 'folky' enough.

[Fabio]

I've both Sampletekk Recorders and Early patches, but all are quite real and quite close to the live recorder sound: it is what you find "too classical".

My suspect is that the sound you are looking for is not a recorder, but some kind of ethnic flute, with more "folk and earthy" noisy and less tuned sound.

Very good ethnic or rare instruments libraries are on the market, but just for a flute, it seems to me quite expensive buying a library...:D

By another point of view, if you buy an ethnic library you will find several new imputs for your music (other winds, but strings, and percussions).

[Ben H]

Yes I do want recorders, but less "sterile" and more raw and organic. (Not necessarily out-of-tune though).

There doesn't seem to be too many options available though.

[Fabio]

Yes I do want recorders, but less "sterile" and more raw and organic. (Not necessarily out-of-tune though).

There doesn't seem to be too many options available though.

I'm sorry Sir, you didn't find useful my suggestion.
Far from my will starting a "sterile" discussion about flute sound, :D but even if I'm a recorder (and oboe and cornetto) player, I can't understand what are you talking about:
somebody "less classical" than me maybe should help you if you post a real sample of the sound you are looking for (a short excerpt from your favorite tune featuring this "raw and organic recorder").

Good look: but if you can't find it, maybe you can make it starting from existing unexpensive recorders libraries, with sampler parameters and audio manipulation (if it's in your skills/time/pleasure rate balance).

[Nickie Fønshauge]

Westgate Studios has a few recorders in the Woodwind Collection v 1.0 (http://www.westgatestudios.com/wc.htm) & Woodwind Collection - Expanded Edition (http://www.westgatestudios.com/wc_expanded.htm). You would have to buy a lot more to get those, though.

[Ben H]

Thanks Fabio, but I don't think I am making myself clear. What I am hoping for is a less sterile and perfect sound.

I want a flutey/ethnic wind sound but with a bit more breath and a bit more character than a classical recorder sound can provide.

Hmmm, it seems that nobody except Sampletekk does just recorders and I don't really want to buy a whole library just for a recorder sound.

[Oksi Moron]

Thanks Fabio, but I don't think I am making myself clear. What I am hoping for is a less sterile and perfect sound.

I want a flutey/ethnic wind sound but with a bit more breath and a bit more character than a classical recorder sound can provide.

Hmmm, it seems that nobody except Sampletekk does just recorders and I don't really want to buy a whole library just for a recorder sound.

Although I lean very much towards Fabio's point of view, it's worth pointing out that renaissance recorders have an earthier sound than baroque ones, and there's no such thing as a generic "recorder" library that's going to suit all purposes. I'm guessing that the sound you're looking for is more like this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000009OM1001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/104-5312816-0666353

If you had Reaktor and the Steampipe ensemble, there are some so-called "pipe organ" patches that can easily be tweaked and then played with a wind controller to make very plausible recorder patches, and you can tweak them to give a raw sound when you overblow them, if that's what you want. I like the Sampletekk and Early Patches samples, too, and if you use them in Kontakt there's nothing to keep you from adding a little dynamic EQ "bump" somewhere in the mid-upper range to make them sound breathier when blown harder. It's all good.

Greg

[Nick Batzdorf]

The recorder patches on the VL1 are pretty awful.

I say that as both a recorder player and a worshipper of the VL1.

Ben, what do you mean by "too classical?" There are about three different ways to tongue a recorder, and you can either add vibrato or not. You can also record it close up or from a distance.

It's a gorgeous instrument, but that's about it.

[Ben H]

Here is an idea of the sound I am after.

http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=1001

It sounds too synthy, but it is a better ballpark of the type of sound I am after.

I will probably end up getting the Sampletekk though then adding some breath to it, to get it more like the sound I can hear in my head.

Thanks all.

Ben H

[Pingu]

That sounds nothing like a recorder. You probably want a set of pan pipes or a peruvian flute. (Unless I'm listening to the wrong demo).

[Steve_Karl]

There are some sounds here that might do it for you.
They're free.

http://www.herman-witkam.com/raw/home.html

I've been using them off and on for a while and they're great.

[Marko]

I think there are some recorder samples included in the volume called 'Ancient Worlds' (in the AKAI format). I used some of the sounds in my Kurzweil sampler several many years ago. I don't know if this would be suitable for your needs.

http://www.northstarsamples.com/ProductIndex.html

According to the site, you'll need at least 16 megabytes of RAM!

Marko

[Nick Batzdorf]

What Pingu said. A dog and a cat.

[Ben H]

Okay... thanks guys.