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FireGS
11-16-2006, 08:33 PM
You've all had it, Machine gun. How do you all get around this? I need some really good answers. I'm posting a clip of what i need, but cannot seem to achieve.

http://www.theleetness.org/trumpets.mp3

>_< name the Song, and you get a cookie. gogogo!

~Fire

EDIT: Something I thought of tonight, The JABB trumpets seem to have a nice sound when played in stacatto, but seem too...as Sean put it, "Squeaky" for Orchestral. Think EQ and a GPO Aggresive Overlay would help?

Stephanie Pray
11-16-2006, 09:19 PM
hi :)
Well, the only idea that I have would be to use trumpet 1 ens and trumpet 2 ens on alternating notes. Maybe the aggressive overlay on the accented notes. :confused: Sorry, it's all I can think of right now.
Good luck :)
Steph

Reegs
11-16-2006, 09:36 PM
Dont forget the Var1 and Var2 knobs!

FireGS
11-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Dont forget the Var1 and Var2 knobs!

Oh I dont forget em, just sometimes in certain passages, that actually becomes too noticable, and sounds unrealistic. >_<

RichR
11-16-2006, 10:57 PM
Did you try varying the velocity of the repeated notes? Noone ever tongues with the exact same attack on every note.

FireGS
11-16-2006, 11:11 PM
That's an Idea. Seems to be helping so far =D

Ive noticed that I get better results when using shorter MIDI notes than using longer ones + stacatto notes. Hmm.

snorlax
11-17-2006, 12:01 AM
You've all had it, Machine gun. How do you all get around this? I need some really good answers. I'm posting a clip of what i need, but cannot seem to achieve.

http://www.theleetness.org/trumpets.mp3

>_< name the Song, and you get a cookie. gogogo!

~Fire

EDIT: Something I thought of tonight, The JABB trumpets seem to have a nice sound when played in stacatto, but seem too...as Sean put it, "Squeaky" for Orchestral. Think EQ and a GPO Aggresive Overlay would help?

Have you humanized the timing so all the attacks do not hit simultaneously? Even if so, you might want to vary it a bit more.
Sounded like a snippet of Khachaturian for a moment but I don't remember that specific lick.

FireGS
11-17-2006, 12:04 AM
Tried that too. It helped! I guess I'm not happy with the actual sound I'm getting... it's hard to explain. Ill post a demo of what I've done soon to show you how it sounds thus far.

Craig Reeves
11-17-2006, 01:18 PM
That's from Star Wars, buddy.

I actually happen to own that CD.

Where's my cookie? ;)

FireGS
11-17-2006, 01:21 PM
http://wiki.coolmon.org/files/cookie.jpg

:D

Leaf
11-17-2006, 04:51 PM
http://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Leaf/cookie.jpg

I checked it out for you, it seems to be okay.:)

dclenden
11-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Sam -

Don't know if you've already solved this or tried using the brass master class information from Garritan's sight to do so. Either way, here's the link just in case it helps:

http://www.garritan.com/tutorial/MasterClass_Brass.html

Description: This Master Class series shows how to make convincing brass renditions. There are sections on Imparting Dynamics, Using the Brass Overlays in Section Building, Avoiding the 'Machine-Gun' Effect and Making Horn Rips.

Dave

Aziraphal
11-18-2006, 02:24 AM
Another trick is using adjacent notes and pitchbending them into place every few notes, eg: g-g-g-g#g-g#-g-g-f#-g-g etc (and use half a step of pitchbend up on f#, half down on g#).

It's a pain and must be done manually with nitpicking precision, but the result was always worth it (in my works)

Cheers Matt