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Big Bob
04-16-2006, 03:44 AM
Hi Guys,

I am indeed very pleased to tell you that SIPS (at long last) is up on Theo's site and available for download. I thought this announcement deserved a new thread, but, for some continuity I'm sort of repeating my 2nd last post on the old thread.

The scripts have a lot of presets done by Theo, Andrew, and Martin and for every preset there is a short mp3 demo. Theo and Andrew also did a few orchestrations that Theo has also put up. So go and check these out.

I've had a lot of help from some very talented guys and I know from their feedback that you're very likely to find this tool quite useful. Just to sort of whet your appetite a little, here is a recent quote from Martin:

"I didn't expect the level of realism and expression that this would
bring to my sampled instruments. The Dan Dean Brass that I've been
working with is a great library, but an older one without all the
features of newer offerings like Vienna and so on. These scripts are
literally breathing new life into the samples, and I can get them to
sound more expressive than I ever could before.

We already knew the potential of the legato script, but now I'm just
as impressed with the SVS. In fact, I think I even like using your
script better than the real vibrato instruments that are included
with the library. With the real vibrato recording, you are stuck with
a nice, but static, vibrato that you can't modulate over time. With
the script, you can use controllers to change the parameters and this
can make the music sound more "lifelike". And maybe someone with
better ears than I have can hear the difference between the script
and real vibrato, but I personally can't, at least not on the little
snippet that I worked on today. So I guess this means it's at least
very close to the real thing.

Again, I want to thank and congratulate you on the work you've done.
Not only on the scripts, but also on the docs which are really clear
and easy to understand. Particularly your guidelines on starting up
with programming the scripts (as well as Theo and Andrew's advice
sections) have really helped me quickly create some presets that I'm
happy with."

Well, that about says it all. If you want it, get it here: http://www.theokrueger.com/kontakt2.htm

Happy Easter everyone.

God Bless,

Bob

Joseph Burrell
04-16-2006, 10:51 AM
Amazing demo Theo (maybe a few too many slides:D ) and Andrew!

Can't wait to give this a run through my libraries.

Thanks for your continued dedication to this project (for nothing too.)

Theodor
04-16-2006, 10:57 AM
Thanks Joseph! I'm sure you'll love it man :) :)

kotori
04-16-2006, 12:03 PM
Thank you so much Bob for sharing this. It's difficult to comprehend the number of man hours that must have gone into this project! Just to give everyone an idea about the size of this: over 1 900 lines of well-commented script code, 85 pages of written documentaiton and plenty of presets.

My thanks goes also to everybody else in the diligent development team. I'm sure your presets will prove very useful and those demos are simply splendid!

Cheers,
Nils

beach
04-16-2006, 12:15 PM
WOW this looks like great!!!
My god your work deserves a prize!!

Many congrats for this! And of course thanks for sharing!!

Sincerely,
Roberto

hywyn
04-16-2006, 12:39 PM
Many thanks for this! You generocity is exemplary.

frankvg
04-16-2006, 04:02 PM
Thanks Bob!

f.

karmacomposer
04-16-2006, 06:00 PM
Thank you for this Theodore and Big Bob. As a Kontakt 2 user, I am appreciative of kind souls like you who make these kinds of scripts possible.

Mike

dezai
04-16-2006, 06:46 PM
Wow I can't wait to try this out. Big thanks in advance to you, Big Bob. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar.

Thonex
04-17-2006, 03:35 PM
Thanks Joseph,

Big Bob has set a new standart in legato scripting.... truely amazing.

T

Aaron Dirk
04-17-2006, 04:04 PM
Some great scripts! Thanks!:)

Hardy Heern
04-17-2006, 04:09 PM
Here!!! Here!!

Thank you so much for these scripts Bob (Big) and Theo, Andrew, and Martin too.

best regards

Frank

ddarwin7
04-17-2006, 05:22 PM
First of all CONGRATULATION to the whole team for completing this script.

Thank you so much Big Bob, Theo, and team. Your hard work, dedication, and commitment to this work is truly appreciated. I cannot even imagine the amount of work something like this would entail. The enormous coding within the scripts, the detailed manuals and all the other helpful information. All I can say is WOW and thank you. Your guys are brilliant, not to mention kind and generous as well.

Thanks

Dd

Big Bob
04-17-2006, 10:20 PM
Hey Guys, ******WARNING******

I finally got a chance to take off my scripting hat and put on my musician hat, and, started using SIPS. And first thing out of the gate I found a bug :o .

I've already sent Theo an update but I don't know how long it will take for it to appear.

There is an error in the sustain pedal logic that can cause notes to hang if you have been using the pedal and you stop your sequencer in the middle of a note among other things. If you have trouble with this sort of thing and you have an urgent need to fix it before Theo has the update available, post a call for help and I'll tell you how to fix it (it's a very simple edit).
Sorry about this but this wasn't my first mistake and I'm sure it won't be my last.

Bob

beach
04-17-2006, 10:48 PM
Bob there is something strange for me!
Thank you very much before all!!

In particular I am working with Finale 2005 and I found that when I load an XP patch like a cello and I apply your script "as Cello1"
I can reproduce a wonderful legato melody even in the presence or in the absence of release trigger samples.
But if I add another patch to my multi in K2 adding new instruments on different midi channels and trying to get them playing together, either in the presence or in the absence of RT samples, after playing the melody for some time the script produces something wrong and the melody of the cello become like a staccato and with a horrible fake sound!! and I need to empty the script and reload it!

Maybe I am doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!!
Roberto

Big Bob
04-18-2006, 02:09 AM
Hi Roberto,

But if I add another patch to my multi in K2 adding new instruments on different midi channels and trying to get them playing together, either in the presence or in the absence of RT samples, after playing the melody for some time the script produces something wrong and the melody of the cello become like a staccato and with a horrible fake sound!! and I need to empty the script and reload it!

Maybe I am doing something wrong?

Thanks in advance!!
Roberto

I've never had a reason to use multis and unfortunately, I don't have Finale.
In order for me to investigate this I would need you to reduce the scope of the problem a little and then try to come up with a very specific, step by step procedure to produce it, preferably on the smallest scale that still exhibits the problem in one form or another. I realize that this may not be easy for you to do but I can't test with every possible host and every possible library. Therefore, you'll have to try to make the problem happen with K2 in standalone mode and using instruments from the K2 library since these are the things we have in common.

Alternatively, you could try describing your problem in more detail in the hopes that some other user that has your same (or a very similar) setup might be able to spot something that you're doing wrong or confirm that they have the same problem. We'll just have to play this by ear I'm afraid.

Sorry that I don't have a better suggestion at this time.

Bob

BTW what you are describing is not related to the bug I just found. It only affect things as described. And, in most cases not at all if your sustain pedal produces 0 when released. So, I'm afraid the update won't do anything for you.

Theodor
04-18-2006, 03:49 AM
The new version with the sustain pedal fixes is up:

www.theokrueger.com/sips.htm

tchoyy
04-18-2006, 09:55 AM
Hi Mister BB :D

The scripts sound awesome, Yesterday and this night I tested it with roberto.
We tried with a Solo Cello, a viola, a violin, very Impressive !

I've got a question, I'm trying to understand all the settings, but could you prepare a preset for using it with symphonic choirs ? Something with a little slide for exemple that would make a voice sound more realistic ?

mixolydian
04-18-2006, 11:29 AM
Hi,

many thanks to the SIPS-team, huge work. I'm into the manual right now... :)

Best regards

Kai

Theodor
04-18-2006, 12:43 PM
Hi Mister BB :D

The scripts sound awesome, Yesterday and this night I tested it with roberto.
We tried with a Solo Cello, a viola, a violin, very Impressive !

I've got a question, I'm trying to understand all the settings, but could you prepare a preset for using it with symphonic choirs ? Something with a little slide for exemple that would make a voice sound more realistic ?

Hi Tchoyy, from the top of my head:

i guess you could try increasing the Xtime to around 500, the Btime to around 200 and the Bend to around 10, maybe a bit more. Generally for sections a larger Xtime gives better results ;)

You could start with one of the slower presets like Cello 1 and 2 or French horn section and tweak that :)

tchoyy
04-18-2006, 01:24 PM
You could start with one of the slower presets like Cello 1 and 2 or French horn section and tweak that :)

Thanks Theo, indeed I started with Cello 1, It sounds great for single voyels, for example a solo tenor singing Ooohh. I'll try your settings for sections. I'm sure this script may help a lot for creating very realistic choirs ! :|:

KingIdiot
04-18-2006, 06:17 PM
really great offering guys. Alot of work went into this and you can see that they have the end user in mind. The manual, the descriptions and the general want for everyone to use it and check it out.

Great work, I'm jsut messing around with it and can see how usefull it will be and see how chaining up some of my own script concepts will work well with this .

Thanks for sharing guys!

Haydn
04-18-2006, 08:39 PM
KingIdiot,

I keep hearing mention of Operation Mindcrime 2 on another forum. Didn't realize you did work for this.

Jim

runamuck
04-19-2006, 12:44 AM
What a great thing you have offerred here. Now that I have downloaded it, I can only recommend that you begin charging for it.

Thanks very much,

Jim

fizbin
04-19-2006, 12:28 PM
WOW! Nice work Bob. Incredible really.

Jay

P.S. Did you get an insider's scripting manual somewhere? I didn't even know user functions existed.

Thonex
04-19-2006, 01:18 PM
WOW! Nice work Bob. Incredible really.

Jay

P.S. Did you get an insider's scripting manual somewhere? I didn't even know user functions existed.

That's possible becuase of Nils' Kontakt script editor. You should really download it if you intend on doing any K2 scripting.... it's pretty amazing. There is a link on this forum.

Cheers,

T

kotori
04-19-2006, 01:57 PM
P.S. Did you get an insider's scripting manual somewhere? I didn't even know user functions existed. Thonex already answered (thanks), but for you convenience here are links to
the script editor (http://nilsliberg.se/ksp/) and an introduction to using functions (http://nilsliberg.se/ksp/using_functions.py).

Cheers,
Nils

fizbin
04-19-2006, 02:12 PM
That's great, however I'm curious as to where the user function is documented - or who stumbled upon it by accident or whatever. Are parameters by reference or by value? Is there another, more detailed reference for Kontakt script. In the existing manual there are a couple functions which are mentioned but documented very poorly if at all.

Jay

EDIT: Never mind - I see how it works now. Kontakt doesn't actually support user functions. The script editor does and inlines them when translating to runnable Kontakt script. At first glance I didn't realize Bob's code wasn't actually pure Kontakt script.

Big Bob
04-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Hey Fiz ol' buddy,

Long time no see. Glad to see you're still around.

God Bless,

Bob

bosone
04-20-2006, 12:31 PM
thanks for this marvellous script.
i tried with GPO and it sounds very convincing, even after some minor tweaking!

just a suggestion: what about the possibility to use aftertouch to control vibrato depth?

thanks a lot!!

Big Bob
04-20-2006, 01:43 PM
thanks for this marvellous script.
i tried with GPO and it sounds very convincing, even after some minor tweaking!

just a suggestion: what about the possibility to use aftertouch to control vibrato depth?

thanks a lot!!Might be something to consider if NI ever endows the KSP with the ability to read aftertouch. The new update is supposed to have more MIDI capability but since NI is guarding all such details, who knows?

God Bless,

Bob

fizbin
04-20-2006, 04:19 PM
Hey Fiz ol' buddy,

Long time no see. Glad to see you're still around.

God Bless,

Bob

Hey Bob - Good to see you're working hard in your retirement. :-)

fizbin
04-20-2006, 04:20 PM
Might be something to consider if NI ever endows the KSP with the ability to read aftertouch. The new update is supposed to have more MIDI capability but since NI is guarding all such details, who knows?

God Bless,

Bob

Isn't aftertouch a CC value? I'm not sure myself.

kotori
04-20-2006, 06:31 PM
Isn't aftertouch a CC value? I'm not sure myself.
No, I don't think it is, although I'm not 100% sure. But I wonder if it would be possible to have ones host convert it into MIDI CC.

/Nils

T. S.
04-20-2006, 08:48 PM
No, I don't think it is, although I'm not 100% sure. But I wonder if it would be possible to have ones host convert it into MIDI CC.

/Nils

Like the Bender, Aftertouch seems to be a separate entity. In Sonar you can easily change any cc# to another but not Aftertouch.

I don't know why because in other samplers that support Aftertouch you can use either Aftertouch or the Mod Wheel (any cc# actually) and seemingly get the same results.

TS

Big Bob
04-20-2006, 11:53 PM
Hey Bob - Good to see you're working hard in your retirement. :-)

_____________:p________________

Big Bob
04-21-2006, 12:06 AM
Isn't aftertouch a CC value? I'm not sure myself.

OK guys, here's a little MIDI review. All messages begin with what I'll call an 'op-code' byte (sign bit on) followed by one or more data bytes (sign bit off). The specific channel messages (in Hex), where 'c' is the channel number, are:

8c = Note Off
9c = Note On
Ac = Key Pressure (Poly aftertouch, rare)
Bc = Continuous Controller (including the channel mode messages 120 .. 127)
Cc = Program Change
Dc = Channel Pressure (Aftertouch)
Ec = Pitch Bender
FX = Real Time stuff like sys ex, Clock, Start/Stop, etc

Note that both poly aftertouch and mono aftertouch have special 'op-codes' and are distinct from the CCs.

God Bless,

Bob


BTW Have you guys noticed that NI's forum has been down all day? I hope that doesn't mean something ominous.

bosone
04-21-2006, 01:54 PM
so aftertouch is not inclded in K2 script?! :-(
i didnt remember that!!

Big Bob
04-21-2006, 05:58 PM
so aftertouch is not inclded in K2 script?! :-(
i didnt remember that!!Hey guys, I'm 74 years old, you don't think I remember all this stuff do you? I've just got thousands of scraps of paper with little scribbles on each one that I refer to. The only problem is I no longer have any wall space, floor space, or working space left, and I have so many notes that I can no longer find the one I want. I think I need a new brain;) .

Joseph Burrell
04-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Is anyone else having trouble with this script and the round robin patches from Kirk Hunter Emerald? The second note in an overlapped phrase does not play at all (I would assume because of the round robin programming.) I neglected to try it with other RR patches from other libraries (shame on me.)

Big Bob
04-21-2006, 07:50 PM
Hi Joseph,

No one has reported such a thing to me. I don't have any Kirk Hunter patches and usually don't use K2's RR function. However, I have used SIPS with both key-switched and controller-switched instruments where I change the active group in the middle of a legato phrase. I would think that's the basic thing that has to work in order for K2's RR to work with the SLS. If I ever get some time, I'll specifically try using RR during a legato phrase but as I said, I don't have the KH patches. Sorry I cant be of more help.

God Bless,

Bob

Jibrish
04-22-2006, 12:42 AM
I just got a chance to mess around with this script a bit. Wow, what a great tool!

Thanks so much Big Bob (and cohorts). I'm having a little trouble getting it to behave... but it's obviously well worth the effort. The general structure and the array of presets are a thing of beauty.

sghoughton
04-26-2006, 07:22 AM
Thanks Bob for this. Works great.

I'm also having the same issues on the KH round robbin patches as well so this issue isn't just system specific.

steve

Mr. Anxiety
04-28-2006, 05:28 AM
Joseph,

I, too, am having the same problem with the KH Emerald patches and SIPS.
Funny, these are the patches I first tried SIPS with. I thought I was forgetting something or not getting something. The 2nd note of every phrase is missing.

If I come across anything, I'll holler!

Mr. A.

TheLastCrusader
04-28-2006, 07:12 PM
Evil question, but does any of the new K 2.1 enhancements mean that this script is going to get looked at again?

I was just about to test it out, but I realized that if there is going to be some more active development on it, I'll hold off.

Thx

-Eric

Big Bob
04-29-2006, 05:30 PM
Hi Eric,

SIPS development is likely to be ongoing. Version 1.10 is in the works now but the 'full list' of planned changes is not yet finalized. I can tell you that besides bug fixes (so far only one minor one that has been found since V1.051), the User Preset and Import/Export features will be improved. An expanded disable/enable function that will include bypass (MIDI controllable) will be added. Also, the possibility of RT support is being considered but may or may not be implemented.

However, with NI's 2.1 release, I will be going over SIPS thoroughly to determine if any changes need to be made to accomodate or take advantage of 2.1. As to whether you should wait to download and use SIPS in its current form, only you can answer that question.

Hope this helps you to decide.

God Bless,

Bob

joaz
04-30-2006, 12:55 AM
I just wanted to thank you again for your Script.

I have just finished a big piece, and I used your script to render it.
It is a Brass quintet. It uses GPO solo brass sounds.

I was initially plagued by stuck notes, but my workaround was to assign a controller to the Legato on/off button.(The on when lit button).
I could never use it for the last note of a phrase, but if I had an 8 note run, I could use it on 7 of them.

I have used fairly conservative settings, because there is a temptation to have an excess of portamento. Nice for Strings, but not as appropriate for Brass.

If you want to check out the piece you can find it here:
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44741

regards Joe

Thonex
04-30-2006, 03:07 AM
Is anyone else having trouble with this script and the round robin patches from Kirk Hunter Emerald? The second note in an overlapped phrase does not play at all (I would assume because of the round robin programming.) I neglected to try it with other RR patches from other libraries (shame on me.)

Just curious Joseph... I don't own KH Emerald and was wondering... what type of RR patches you are using? I didn't beta SIPS with any RR patches because all the RR patches I have are typically assigned to Pizz, Stac, Spic, Marc, Mart, and whatnot... in other words, all patches that would not be used in a legato fashion to begin with.

Does KHE have sustained RR patches?


Thanks,

T

Big Bob
04-30-2006, 09:19 PM
Hi Joe,

I just wanted to thank you again for your Script.

I have just finished a big piece, and I used your script to render it.
It is a Brass quintet. It uses GPO solo brass sounds.

I was initially plagued by stuck notes, but my workaround was to assign a controller to the Legato on/off button.(The on when lit button).
I could never use it for the last note of a phrase, but if I had an 8 note run, I could use it on 7 of them.

I have used fairly conservative settings, because there is a temptation to have an excess of portamento. Nice for Strings, but not as appropriate for Brass.

If you want to check out the piece you can find it here:
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44741

regards Joe Nice composition Joe, thanks for sharing this with me (it's always a pleasure to hear what others are using SIPS for). BTW I thought the Finale was the most convincing, especially the trumpet parts.

Re: Stuck notes. I'm not sure I have heard about this particular problem before (other than the old K2 problem with hung child notes when the parent note is very short). Incidentally, it looks as though that problem has been corrected in K2 V2.1. In fact, this may be one of the few KSP bugs that has been corrected, many have not:mad: .

As far as I am aware of, there is only one unresolved issue with V1051 and its usual symptom is just the opposite of your problem (the reports are that the KSP and/or the script freezes up sometimes). This problem, listed as issue #3 in the readme file seems to be host dependent. There is one other bug that has been corrected for the next release, but it causes the script to drop a note once in a while during very rapid passages. So this doesn't sound like your problem either.

I'd be interested in hearing more about this problem if it persists after you update to K2 V2.1 (after you get lucky enough to get it downloaded that is;) ). Thanks again for sharing your composition with me and I wish you the best.

God Bless,

Bob

joaz
05-01-2006, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the listen Bob.

K2 has always behaved like a thoroughbred horse for me, some days great, some days not so great. There are so many variables involved, that I cant add anything helpful to that discussion.

I also got the KSP freeze thing sometimes.

I liked the sound of SIPS best on the trombone and French horn. But I tended to use conservative amounts of it.

I think what you, and Theo and the gang are doing is wonderful, and very much appreciated by the K2 community at large.

Here is hoping 2.1 sorts some of my symptoms out.

regards Joe

Jerry W.
07-25-2006, 07:51 PM
Uh OH!!! :eek:

What happened to the page to get SIPS?

I have changed computers and was getting ready to install them. Now the page doesn't show up.

SIPS where have you gone?

:)

Jerry Wickham

Nickie Fønshauge
07-25-2006, 09:09 PM
Seems like Theo Krueger forgot to pay his bills.

From The Unmentionable Forum:
...seems that i am out of bandwidth and the reg has expired. To be fixed asap.

There is, by the way, a new version, SIPS v110.

Kaatza Music
07-29-2006, 03:14 AM
Hey, Theo,

Need any help getting things backing online? I would be happy to donate bandwith, I have a lot of extra on my site. Or even a little cash if needed.

You are providing something of great value to all of us, so I would be happy to help out if I can.

Leon

undertone
07-29-2006, 03:57 AM
Thanks for SIPS, Big Bob. There's many of us who'd like to get our hands on it too. Do you have any objections to us passing it along to each other? And someone posting it on an FTP?

SIPS-less undertone

kotori
07-30-2006, 07:00 AM
SIPS v110 can be downloaded here:
http://nilsliberg.se/ksp/scripts/sips/sips.htm

With many kind people both here and at the Kontakt Scripting forum offering to help out with hosting and also designing the web page I think it will be online in its entirety and with a nicer look real soon.

Nils

hkapoor
08-15-2006, 01:18 PM
Dear Respectable Bob,

I downloaded your SIPS v110 two days ago. and I must say it's a lot of stuff to go through. I am a part time musician and recently started using kontakt. I've created a patch for duduk using samples provided in EWQL ethnic gigafiles library. I'll be grateful if you could help me achieve the following -

I'm trying to achieve a perfect legato settings for this Armenian instrument called duduk. This requires taking care of instrument bends etc. My probelm is I cannot find a knob or a button that can emulate a lead instrument. Given below is what I'm doing -

limit the max number of voices to 1.
load your script.
try out various patches in your script and play around with their settings.

I play the successive note while still holding the previous one. Now when I release this new note I want the sound of previous note which was still held to return. I looked at the kontakt scripts manual. Basically I want that on_release, instrument should return to the previous event "if" the previous note is still held (if note_held=1). Does you SIPS package have this? If not can you please help me with the script code snippet that will do this job?

Best Regards

- Hemant Kapoor

mathis
08-15-2006, 02:55 PM
Can't help you with the final paragraph but in order for SIPS Legato to work properly you should allow more voices than 1. At least 2, better 4.
For your wished behaviour you probably can write a simple script doing that and load that in front of the SIPS legato script.

kotori
08-15-2006, 04:02 PM
Hi Hemant,
I answered your PM on the Scripting forum. I'll look into the matter. Anyone else who need this feature? I forgot to answer the part about max polyphony at 1, but I see that Mathis did that nicely above (thanks).

Best regards,
Nils

hkapoor
08-16-2006, 01:55 AM
Hi Nils,

I appreciate your reply. I sent a second reply to that also. I'm posting the same again here in case you didn't recieve it.

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Thanks Nils for a detailed reply. I work with few other instruments like reason, plugsound, korg etc. When I play a piece on ethnic woodwind instrument like duduk or irish flute, piece has a different feel to it (esp. instrument bending etc) when I play with this option then without. Most of the other synthesizer I have worked with provide this as a configurable option. And it's not just ease of playing, but the style that I feel changes when I play an instrument with this option vs without this option. It's more like feel factor. Mathematically speaking, I can achieve the same piece when I'll sit down on editing the midi piece played. But to achieve such bends live is incomparable in spontaniety. I can probably try to produce these bends using the joystick also but then the amount of bend is not as proportionataly changable and of desired accuracy as the keys that I can hit. To be able to produce a bend by hitting the next key just for a split second without lifting the current one up and returning to the existing sound produces a bend which is far more accurate then retriggering the previous note. I'm ok with any solution. It doesn't have to be part of SIPS. That's why I asked if there's any such feature you know is available in Kontakt. I love the work that has been accomplished in SIPS. And I feel you guys are technically quite knowledgable about the instrument. I also have the option of trying to achieve this on reaktor if that's what you recommend. Please follow the link below to listen to what I'm trying to achieve -

http://zangezur.tripod.com/music/coolwind.mp3

Though I have made pretty good progress in setting kontak up for this. But still I feel it's not where it should be especially as far as bending is concerned. All I have is samples from gigafiles for duduk and the sound in the link above is what I have to achieve. any help will be appreciated.

Regards


- Hemant Kapoor

hkapoor
08-16-2006, 01:57 AM
Can't help you with the final paragraph but in order for SIPS Legato to work properly you should allow more voices than 1. At least 2, better 4.
For your wished behaviour you probably can write a simple script doing that and load that in front of the SIPS legato script.

Thanks for enlightening me upon the fact mathis.

Regards

kotori
08-16-2006, 03:49 AM
For your wished behaviour you probably can write a simple script doing that and load that in front of the SIPS legato script.
That was my spontaneous idea as well. However, I'm uncertain if this is really possible. The reason is that the note-offs generated by laters scripts in the chain affect earlier scripts. So a script loaded in a script slot before SIPS would have trouble telling incoming note-offs apart from those generated by SIPS.
Hemant, I think you argued well for why you want this behaviour. I'll have a look at SIPS and see how difficult it would be to implement this.

Nils

hkapoor
08-16-2006, 06:24 AM
That was my spontaneous idea as well. However, I'm uncertain if this is really possible. The reason is that the note-offs generated by laters scripts in the chain affect earlier scripts. So a script loaded in a script slot before SIPS would have trouble telling incoming note-offs apart from those generated by SIPS.
Hemant, I think you argued well for why you want this behaviour. I'll have a look at SIPS and see how difficult it would be to implement this.

Nils

Thanks Nil, I appreciate. Let me know your findings.

Regards

musicpete
09-06-2006, 11:30 AM
Hello!

I just found this thread and tried to access the webpage with the Kontakt2 scripts, but the site seems to be gone. Is it just me or does anyone else have the same problems?

Would realy like to try these.

Oh, and thank you for taking time to create these ownderful things!

g.h.
09-06-2006, 06:38 PM
Take a look at: http://nilsliberg.se/ksp/scripts/sips/sips.htm

musicpete
09-07-2006, 03:01 AM
Thank you very much!

Finally I can try this myself!

Fox
09-13-2006, 12:51 PM
Take a look at: http://nilsliberg.se/ksp/scripts/sips/sips.htm

Thank you, thank you!!!!

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Von Richter
09-19-2006, 04:45 PM
Just some random thoughts.

Maybe this has been brought up before, but why not create a duplicate group and change it's sample start time, then have the script switch to that group on legato notes? This would allow the use of SIPS in DFD mode.

Is there some limitation in the KSP that prevents this? There must be a way!

If not, you could do it manually by switching to another group after the first note of a phrase.

kotori
09-19-2006, 05:09 PM
Just some random thoughts.

Maybe this has been brought up before, but why not create a duplicate group and change it's sample start time, then have the script switch to that group on legato notes? This would allow the use of SIPS in DFD mode.

Is there some limitation in the KSP that prevents this? There must be a way!

If not, you could do it manually by switching to another group after the first note of a phrase.
Funny you should mention it. I'm currently working on an UI automation tool to do just that. To my knowledge sample start offsets can only be changed one zone at a time which makes it a very tedious process. The goal of my tool is to make it possible to set the sample start for all zones of a group automatically. Stay tuned. Btw. those who like this idea, please give your support to this feature request (http://www.nativeinstruments.de/forum_us/showthread.php?t=38426) of mine which related to this matter.

Nils

anon
10-10-2006, 05:43 AM
The webpage seems to be down?
http://www.theokrueger.com/kontakt2.htm

kotori
10-10-2006, 05:50 AM
The webpage seems to be down?
http://www.theokrueger.com/kontakt2.htm
It can be found here (http://nilsliberg.se/ksp/scripts/sips/sips.htm) just as the above posts say. ;)

anon
10-11-2006, 08:36 AM
Thanks, sorry I should've read the previous pages first!