Kirk Hunter Studios Announces its new K2 Script Performance Tools

[KirkHunter]

This is VERY embryonic, but is proving to be extremely promising to those of you who own Kontakt 2 versions of anything produced by Kirk Hunter Studios.

See a bit of the details at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/performance.html

Hope to see some of you at NAMM!

Kirk Hunter

[Joseph Burrell]

Can't wait to see this in person. Since we'll be in the same booth.:D

[KirkHunter]

Can't wait to see this in person. Since we'll be in the same booth.:D

We WILL? Let me know when you'll be there.

[Jeff Beal]

very cool Kirk - I'll be sure and stop by at Namm! best, jb

[Ivan P]

Could you post a demo?

Thks,

Iván

[janila]

Is the Concert Series going to get this script?

[chriscaouette]

Fantastic news! Are we going to be notified via email or will the scripts be available for download?
Thanks
Chris

[KirkHunter]

Could you post a demo?

Thks,

Iván

I'll put up a demo in the next day or so. But as I mentioned, the scripts are very very new, and so I'm doing some tweaking for various instrumental applications such as brass, woods, strings, and the smaller sections too.

All of those who qualify to receive the scripting features will have the ability to download, so please stay posted to www.kirkhunterstudios.com often. Additionally, I'll try to email everyone, but don't count on that.

Many Thanks,
Kirk

[Ivan P]

Thank you, Kirk

[P de Caumette]

Additionally, I'll try to email everyone, but don't count on that.

:confused:

[sfiks]

Is the Concert Series going to get this script?
Is the Virtuoso Series going to get this script? Please.

[Rich Pell]

I would buy the Solo strings if there was a scripted K2 version..:) Rich

[Haydn]

Kirk,

What booth are you going to be in? I didn't see you listed in the show directory.

Jim

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

What booth are you going to be in? I didn't see you listed in the show directory.

Jim

Booth: 6921
Location: Hall A
Saturday, 12pm-2pm
Sunday, 1pm-3pm

Thanks,
kirk

[Raindog]

I would buy the Solo strings if there was a scripted K2 version..:) Rich

Actually the major part of the solo strings are included in the Emerald Symphoniy Orchestra library.
As an owner and lover of the SoloStrings I would strongly advice you to get Emerald. It´s worth every dollar (Euro, Yen, whatever) and additionally you will have all the script upgrades. A no-brainer
Regards
Raindog

[Raindog]

Hi Kirk,
unfortunately Anaheim is far too far away from Germany but my sister lives in Riverside so maybe she can come to Namm.
Great to hear of the script. I´m sure you did the right thing. Add even more playability to your excellent samples.
I´m very curious to play the first cello legato solo with Emerald.
Best regards
Raindog

[Haydn]

Kirk,

I see your in Garth's booth. I'll be right next door to you!

Jim Ortner

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

I see your in Garth's booth. I'll be right next door to you!

Jim Ortner

Oh really? What will you be showing?


Kirk

[sghoughton]

Kirk,

Any demos before namm?

steve

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

Any demos before namm?

steve

I'll try to post some later today.. These will be single dynamic layered for now, but can easily, and most definitely be applied to all kinds of dynanics and articulations. This script is rather flexible and so the possibilities are rather large indeed.

Thanks,
Kirk Hunter

[sghoughton]

Is it later today yet? :D

Dyin to hear these....

steve

[mixolydian]

2nd this.

Especially with the Chamber Strings.

[Raindog]

I.........fourth? it :n:

[KirkHunter]

Ok, ok! The only reason for the delay in posting some demos is because we've made some really neat breakthroughs that make a big difference, and I'm trying to implement some of those things. Chris Caouette heard some of them at NAMM and reported favorably, and those were still not as good as I want. But soon...very soon!

Thanks for the patience.

Kirk

[Mike Greene]

I heard some of them at NAMM as well and was very impressed. Really nice legato. :cool:

- Mike Greene

[Raindog]

Ok, ok! The only reason for the delay in posting some demos is because we've made some really neat breakthroughs that make a big difference, and I'm trying to implement some of those things. Chris Caouette heard some of them at NAMM and reported favorably, and those were still not as good as I want. But soon...very soon!

Thanks for the patience.

Kirk

Glad I had not to fifth or sixth it (English is quite a funny language :) ).
I´m looking very much forward to the script as it has been praised by Chris already.

BTW: Does it work in sample mode only or can we use DFD?

Best regards from snowy! Germany
Raindog

BTW 2: Any comments regarding a non (or almost non)-vibrato cello?

[KirkHunter]

Does it work in sample mode only or can we use DFD?


BTW 2: Any comments regarding a non (or almost non)-vibrato cello?

Some of the legato scripts actually work in DFD mode. But some of the solo string legatos need to be in sampler mode. However, I'm working on that too.

Thanks,
Kirk

[Raindog]

Just another question which came into my mind. Are your scripts pure legato scripts or do they involve gliding as well?
Thanks for any info
Raindog

[KirkHunter]

Just another question which came into my mind. Are your scripts pure legato scripts or do they involve gliding as well?
Thanks for any info
Raindog

BOTH


Kirk

[sirbellog]

Those legato scripts would be very incentive for me to xgrade my Esmerald Orchestra from GS to K2.
----
I indeed used to think that the K2 xfade fee was a bit overpriced, so I never made it.
(I must say, if the lib had been available in K2 format on release, I would have gone for that format without hesitation, instead of GS, that I use less and less, but I suppose that's what it costs to be an early bird)
---
Now if the xgrade comes with legato scripts for all the instruments families, this changes the landscape for me, and the xgrade becomes far more attractive............
---
So, yes, Kirk, I can't wait to hear what you did with this K2 feature, and please release those demos before the xgrade price raises !

[Raindog]

Any news (such as a little demo piece as a teaser)? :|:
Best regards
Raindog

[zonobono]

are the scripts already available? i can't find anything on kirks site....

help me, i'm confused :)

[KirkHunter]

I'm going to put up some sectional legato .nki files today, so watch for them. I'll also be posting a few demos. The solo legato script files are still forthcoming.

Thanks,
Kirk

[zonobono]

good news.

thanks, kirk

[sghoughton]

It has begun....

[Raindog]

It has begun....

haven´t found it......

[Raindog]

oh...there is a new demo called "suzy" :)
but no nki-files so far :(

[sghoughton]

Top of the page:

http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/performance.html

steve

[Raindog]

Top of the page:

http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/performance.html

steve

This page has been up since mid january......so there is not too much news besides the demo called "suzy" ;)

So let´s wait for the nki-files. From my experience with Kirk I know that he is working hard at it.

BTW: Kirk, did you have a chance to solve the missing B set of the 24 violins in the K2 version?

[Duncan S.]

There is now, as of February 2nd, an MP3 demo of the violin section legato, as well as a .nki file of that section's legato function, on the referred page; It's likely that your browser cache needs clearing so you can see the updated content.

Here is a direct link to the aforementioned demo MP3, in any case: http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/VnSecLeg.mp3

Best,
Duncan

This page has been up since mid january......so there is not too much news besides the demo called "suzy" ;)

So let´s wait for the nki-files. From my experience with Kirk I know that he is working hard at it.

BTW: Kirk, did you have a chance to solve the missing B set of the 24 violins in the K2 version?

[Raindog]

There is now, as of February 2nd, an MP3 demo of the violin section legato, as well as a .nki file of that section's legato function, on the referred page; It's likely that your browser cache needs clearing so you can see the updated content.

Here is a direct link to the aforementioned demo MP3, in any case: http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/VnSecLeg.mp3

Best,
Duncan

Thanks for the advice to reload the page. Now it´s there. Strange browser behaviour :o
Regards
Raindog

[Raindog]

There is now, as of February 2nd, an MP3 demo of the violin section legato, as well as a .nki file of that section's legato function, on the referred page; It's likely that your browser cache needs clearing so you can see the updated content.

Here is a direct link to the aforementioned demo MP3, in any case: http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/VnSecLeg.mp3

Best,
Duncan

Thanks for you advice regarding the browser cache. The internet explorer here at my office :) needed some refreshment:o
Now the file is there
Regards
Raindog

[Raindog]

BTW: Where do I have to put the impulse reverb file in order for the nki to find it? Is the convolution folder within the K2 folder correct?
Regards
Raindog

[zonobono]

mine is in:

>programme>steinberg>cubasesx3>vstpluginss>kontakt2>presets>effects>convolution>(choose one of the folders)

[chriscaouette]

This is a great start so far. My biggest concern is that he can successfully combine this with a x-fade. I almost never work with velocity sensitive patches for sustains (other than it controlling attack) and use the MW for the swell. This is how DXF in EW, GPO, and VSL x-fade patches are set up. Kirk and I discussed this and you almost need two mod wheels!

Kirk - my suggestion is on xfade patches you could assign cc11 to control the legato-glide to free up cc1 and let that control the swell. Best of both worlds that way. :)

Chris

[KirkHunter]

This is a great start so far. My biggest concern is that he can successfully combine this with a x-fade. I almost never work with velocity sensitive patches for sustains (other than it controlling attack) and use the MW for the swell. This is how DXF in EW, GPO, and VSL x-fade patches are set up. Kirk and I discussed this and you almost need two mod wheels!

Kirk - my suggestion is on xfade patches you could assign cc11 to control the legato-glide to free up cc1 and let that control the swell. Best of both worlds that way. :)

Chris

Hi Chris. I will be able to do the xfades easily enough. Look later today for F Horn sections with this feature. More to come soon as I address all the intricacies of this monster.

Kirk

[Raindog]

Hi Chris. I will be able to do the xfades easily enough. Look later today for F Horn sections with this feature. More to come soon as I address all the intricacies of this monster.

Kirk

Hi Kirk,
I´m very satisfied with your first results. Looks very promising for the rest of your library. Excellent :)

BTW: have a look at this script. Sounds very nice with your strings especially the solo strings.

http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42142

[KirkHunter]

Hi Kirk,
I´m very satisfied with your first results. Looks very promising for the rest of your library. Excellent :)

BTW: have a look at this script. Sounds very nice with your strings especially the solo strings.

http://northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42142

Thanks,
I'll check it out when I have some time. I've ganged up my solo strings before, and I never really liked the sound of it, but I'm open to trying new things.

So the french horn section instrument is done at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/performance.html

Thanks,
kirk

[Symbiotic]

Really looking forward to checking out these scripts this weekend, Kirk!

I'm a relative newbie to Kontakt, though...Do you recommend loading the Impulse file in each respective folder for each instrument? I had always read that it was often more 'realistic' to use a single reverb as an aux bus and send different amounts of each instrument based on location...

But having a dedicated impulse for each section seems to imply that one should instead use a reverb on a per-instrument basis...?

[chriscaouette]

You trully are a work-a-holic Kirk. :)
I will use these instruments on that demo I played you at the NAMM show. I should be getting it done soon.
Chris

[Raindog]

The horns sound very, very nice. Nevertheless though I can clearly hear the legato, I can´t hear the same subtle gliding between legato notes as I can hear with the legato violin sounds. This can be either due to my hearing being impaired or to my decent knowledge of orchestral instruments (though I always produce a subtle glide when I play legato notes on my trumpet). Can anyone enlighten me? :)

Second thing I don´t quite understand: When playing in polyphonic mode there is no possibility of legato. Is that correct? At least that´s what I understood from the instructions.
Thanks for your help
Raindog

[Raindog]

Ok, turned the extend knob more and increased the volume of of the transitional interval groups. Now it´s audible.
The only problem when you increase the extend value is that the last note of a legato sequence gets an unnatural decay. Anything one can do about this?
Raindog

[KirkHunter]

Ok, turned the extend knob more and increased the volume of of the transitional interval groups. Now it´s audible.
The only problem when you increase the extend value is that the last note of a legato sequence gets an unnatural decay. Anything one can do about this?
Raindog

I'm workin' on it. :)

Kirk

[Raindog]

I'm workin' on it. :)

Kirk

What else did I expect? :D


Did I mention, that I´m just working on a Tango piece which is in desperate need for a solo violin ;) ;) :|: ?

[Raindog]

I´m very curious how the solo violin (and solo cello) sound with scripting. I was quite tempted to buy Garritan´s solo strad due to the nice sounding demos but would rather like to invest the money in a future update of Emerald as the samples are excellent and the library is very well layed out.
Raindog

[skallman]

Not to brag, but I just posted this on the Geniesoft forum. It might help in your decion making. The Solo Strings sounds are fantastic in my opinion. And I've only used them for a few days, so I've barely scratched the surface. So much music, so little time!!!

Enjoy!!

Steve

http://geniesoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2431

[KirkHunter]

Steve,

You did a DAMN good job!!!

And that's even without scripting!

[Joseph Burrell]

Pretty friggin good for being created in a notation program eh?:D

[KirkHunter]

Don't forget to go get your free LegatoLive instruments (while you still can) which are custom designed for Khso. So far, there are violins, violas, cellos, basses, trumpets, french horns, and trombones. Also, updated instructions for the brass sections is included in this latest download. Go get them at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/download.html

[karmacomposer]

Kirk,

When I was opening up some brass samples from Emerald in Kontakt2, it said it was missing the impulse reverb (and showed a filename different from the khhall impulse). Has anyone else ever reported this? Is there a file I'm missing?

Thanks in advance. I really like your new website - much better.

Mike

[karmacomposer]

Ove4 - is that Ovation 4?

If not, which package is it? I want to check it out.

Thanks,

Mike

[Joseph Burrell]

Its Overture 4.

http://www.geniesoft.com
http://geniesoft.com/forum/

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

When I was opening up some brass samples from Emerald in Kontakt2, it said it was missing the impulse reverb (and showed a filename different from the khhall impulse). Has anyone else ever reported this? Is there a file I'm missing?

Thanks in advance. I really like your new website - much better.

Mike

It's probably asking for a file called KhHall.aiff

It should be at the root directory of where you installed Khso. If you can't find it, just download it here http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/Impulse.zip

Open whatever instrument that can't find the impulse file (click the instrument's "wrench") and scroll down to the instrument insert module. Open that up, and you'll see where you can simply drag the impulse file.

Hope that helps.
Kirk

[karmacomposer]

Thanks Kirk and thank you for that great tip. I will do so immediately.

Thank you Joseph for providing me with the name of that software. I am going to check it out with great interest.

Kirk, one other thing. I get a very annoying sound from all the string instruments at the highest pitches (highest octave possible) in Kontakt2? Is that Kontakt2, Emerald or my Tannoy monitors? Funny thing is, someone provided a demo mp3 using KHSO samples and that damn sound was there (and seems more obvious in the right speaker than the left).

I will have to try another monitor source and see if it is there as well.

Let me know if you have heard anything like that before.

Also, Kirk, is Saphire above or below Emerald in price and quality? Do you have any plans to make choir sample collections? Considering your quality, support and fair price, I would buy from you in a heartbeat.

I have already sent 7 people your way and many more will follow. Maybe you should offer me a discount for getting you so many sales (lol).

Mike

[KirkHunter]

Thanks Kirk and thank you for that great tip. I will do so immediately.

Thank you Joseph for providing me with the name of that software. I am going to check it out with great interest.

Kirk, one other thing. I get a very annoying sound from all the string instruments at the highest pitches (highest octave possible) in Kontakt2? Is that Kontakt2, Emerald or my Tannoy monitors? Funny thing is, someone provided a demo mp3 using KHSO samples and that damn sound was there (and seems more obvious in the right speaker than the left).

I will have to try another monitor source and see if it is there as well.

Let me know if you have heard anything like that before.

Also, Kirk, is Saphire above or below Emerald in price and quality? Do you have any plans to make choir sample collections? Considering your quality, support and fair price, I would buy from you in a heartbeat.

I have already sent 7 people your way and many more will follow. Maybe you should offer me a discount for getting you so many sales (lol).

Mike

Hmmm.. not sure what the weird sound is. I've not heard about it before. Maybe above c7, it's strange because that's higher than the actual sample, so there has to be some pitch bending.

Hey, if 7 buy from me as a result of your suggestion, I'm open for "thanking" you in various ways. But you have to let me know just WHO those referals were, ok?

Choirs? Beyond the spacy and odd choirs coming in Morphestra, I have no plans of it.

All Sapphire editions are well below the Emerald lines. Loo for them in the near future

Thanks,
Kirk

[Pzy-Clone]

Hey, i just have 2 questions about KHSO before i decide to order it...

Is the library recorded dry or wet? If wet, does ALL the instruments have a convultion reverb as an insert? doesnt that put alot of extra strainn on K2 and the computer?

And also, are they recorded in their natural pan position, or are they panned in the instrument file afterwards? Or not panned at all ?

thanx, hope someome can answer.

[KirkHunter]

Hey, i just have 2 questions about KHSO before i decide to order it...

Is the library recorded dry or wet? If wet, does ALL the instruments have a convultion reverb as an insert? doesnt that put alot of extra strainn on K2 and the computer?

And also, are they recorded in their natural pan position, or are they panned in the instrument file afterwards? Or not panned at all ?

thanx, hope someome can answer.

The orchestral sections are recorded somewhat wet, but not with so much that you can't easily add your own ambience. The solo strings are pretty dry. Don't forget that the perception of wet vs. dry is much more about how the samples release rather than the actual ambience embedded in the actual recording. For instance, no matter how wet a recording is, if you end the note abruptly, it will end up sounding rather "dry". So often, you can add perceptive ambience by extending the release of a note or make it more dry by shortening the release.

Actually, when the library was first being designed, convolution was going to be included in all the instruments as an option. However, after experimenting with this, it was just too taxing on any CPU. However, using a convolution insert on the multi worked very nicely. The KHSO impulses are included in KHSO. The instruments are recorded in their natural positions. So the placement is at the sample level.

[Von Richter]

The KHSO impulses are included in KHSO. The instruments are recorded in their natural positions. So the placement is at the sample level.

Hi! I bought the library a couple months ago, great stuff. I looked on the DVD's and haven't found any impulses... are they available for download? Or are they only included in the Kontakt version?

[KirkHunter]

Hello,

The impulses are only included with the Kontakt 2 version. If you want the impulses anyway, I can email you a link where you can download the files.

[Raindog]

So are there any news on the legato live schedule (just asking :) )?
Best regards
Raindog

BTW: have a look at KH´s new website. This man is even PAINTING (Kirk where are your poems? :D ). Amazing what other people do during a 24h day. Personally I have to spend some time sleeping. Maybe I should consider to skip this part of the day:o

[KirkHunter]

Updated .nki files that contain various versions of LegatoLive can be dowloaded at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/download.html

I'm working on the woodwinds today.

[JVB]

Will the Chamber strings have the legatolive feature ?

I very much like the Chamber strings from the demo's ..

Jvb.

[xenophobe]

Hi!

Has everybody noticed when using Frenchhorn Ensemble presets with Velocity Crossfade (for example FHsMarcSRR-VelXF-ModSweel.nki and similars) and you move up the modwheel there is an increasing(according to the modwheel value) "phasey" sound like playing the same sample simultanly with a very little delay. But with the velocityswitched presets there is no phasing.

Try it: Load FHsMarcSRR-VelXF-ModSweel.nki(or other VelXF-ed Frenchhonr preset) then hold a chord and move the wheel up i think you will notice the phasy sound or am i doing something wrong?


P.S.: Sorry 4 my bad english...

[sten oerting]

Original Post from Mike:

...When I was opening up some brass samples from Emerald in Kontakt2, it said it was missing the impulse reverb (and showed a filename different from the khhall impulse). Has anyone else ever reported this? Is there a file I'm missing?...

Hi Kirk, I've got a similar problem:

Whenever I try to load e.g. trumpets or french horns Hall programs, Kontakt 2 asks for:

KhHallBrass.aiff

It's not on the CD's (Emerald Symphonic Orchestra) or on Your website - but khHall.aiff in 2 versions are, as I recall it. Can You help me out?

Thanks a lot - and great to see You're working on Your website :-)

STYXSTYX

[hendyb]

Is there any small demo to show the new K2 legato script?
I really want to hear the script in action...
Thanks

[KirkHunter]

Is there any small demo to show the new K2 legato script?
I really want to hear the script in action...
Thanks

So far, I've only done a violin section demo. More to come soon. Here is the link for the violin section demo: http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/v2demos.html

Once you're at that page, scroll down a bit. You'll find it as "Violin Section"

Thanks!

[KirkHunter]

There are new updates for LegatoLive, as well as new downloads for impulses and some improved samples at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/download.html

Thanks,
Kirk

[FrozeN]

Man now I am so tempted to buy K2 and crossgrade there! :D

Cheers,
Frankie

[skallman]

sten oerting wrote:

"Whenever I try to load e.g. trumpets or french horns Hall programs, Kontakt 2 asks for: KhHallBrass.aiff"

There's a file called "KhHall.aiff" that comes with the library (it may be on all the CDs). If you followed the included instructions and already copied "KhHall.aiff" to the "C:\Program Files\Native Instruments\Kontakt 2\presets\effects\convolution\07 Big Rooms\IR Samples" folder (or where ever you may have copied it), just rename it to "KhHallBrass.aiff". Once the K2 database engine knows where this file is, it should work okay from that point on. It did for me. Best of luck.

Steve

[sten oerting]

Skallman!
Thanks a lot for the tip - it seems to work. Appreciated...

Best
Sten

[Raindog]

Hi Kirk,
is there any update regarding the legato instruments. The ones you already posted on your website are great but they are increasing my appetite for more :D . No sweat, just asking out of curiosity...
best regards
Raindog

[KirkHunter]

Hi Kirk,
is there any update regarding the legato instruments. The ones you already posted on your website are great but they are increasing my appetite for more :D . No sweat, just asking out of curiosity...
best regards
Raindog

Yes, I'll be implementing the LegatoLive into the rest of the sections soon. But first, I'm reprogramming/streamlining KHSO Emerald so that I can put together good documentation and make all the instruments really consistent.

Stay tuned.

Kirk

[ZareOne]

There will be legatolive patches for the solo instruments?

I haven't tried legatolive yet. How does it compare with VSL legato and EWQL Qlegato (I hope it's better than the last one)?

[ZareOne]

Until the price change of KHSO Emerald, anyone who purchases (or who has already purchased) KHSO Emerald qualifies for free updates that utilize LegatoLive. After the price change, most of the scripting that will be developed shall only be available to those who buy at the new price. However, there will always be free updates and even some free files in some stage of development for anyone who purchased KHSO Emerald.

When the legatolive is fully implemented, those functionalities which will be only available in the new priced version, could be available to the entry level price version users via upgrade? If so, how much will it cost?

[Raindog]

Yes, I'll be implementing the LegatoLive into the rest of the sections soon. But first, I'm reprogramming/streamlining KHSO Emerald so that I can put together good documentation and make all the instruments really consistent.

Stay tuned.

Kirk
Sounds very promising. Looking forward to the next updates. I hope you don´t feel like haveing opened Pandora´s box once starting the sampling business :)

[KirkHunter]

When the legatolive is fully implemented, those functionalities which will be only available in the new priced version, could be available to the entry level price version users via upgrade? If so, how much will it cost?

Hi Dani,

I'll be making the LegatoLive available for free to anyone who already has KHSO Emerald. The extent of the LegatoLive implementation will be to the sections. I may include some of the solos, but it depends on whether or not I need to re-record some of the instruments to really make LegatoLive work well.

Thanks

[ZareOne]

Thanks for such a quick response, Kirk.

I hope you come out with an even better version of Emerald, which I think is at the moment the price/quality standard. Good luck with the work.

[KirkHunter]

Thanks for such a quick response, Kirk.

I hope you come out with an even better version of Emerald, which I think is at the moment the price/quality standard. Good luck with the work.


Watch for "Ruby".

[karmacomposer]

Kirk,

And I assume there is an upgrade path from Emerald to Ruby? Hmmmm?

Mike

[Raindog]

Kirk,

And I assume there is an upgrade path from Emerald to Ruby? Hmmmm?

Mike

Am I the only one who doesn´t know what "Ruby" is? Please enlighten me
Regards
Raindog

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

And I assume there is an upgrade path from Emerald to Ruby? Hmmmm?

Mike


"ruby" - will be a larger, expanded version of "emerald" with more types of release halls and a few more articulations and dynamic layers. Upgrade paths shall always be available. Don't look for this too soon tho'.

[KirkHunter]

"ruby" - will be a larger, expanded version of "emerald" with more types of release halls and a few more articulations and dynamic layers. Upgrade paths shall always be available. Don't look for this too soon tho'.

Additionally, there will be a lot more Legato scripts applied throughout. Many of those are now in KHSO Emerald already.

You can get a brief description at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/ruby.html

Kirk

[karmacomposer]

Kirk,

Sounds really exceptional. I just read about it on your site. Could you let me know (ballpark) what the investment will be so I can prepare for it.

I have been using your library EXTENSIVELY in my work and I love it ALL!

I am a lifetime customer of your products.

Mike

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

Sounds really exceptional. I just read about it on your site. Could you let me know (ballpark) what the investment will be so I can prepare for it.

I have been using your library EXTENSIVELY in my work and I love it ALL!

I am a lifetime customer of your products.

Mike

Thanks Mike!

You can see the details at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/khsogigaork2.html

Thanks,
Kirk

[karmacomposer]

Kirk,

Okay, I'm a little confused. I purchased KHSO Emerald. I asked what the upgrade price to Ruby would be but all I read about is . . . what looks like an updated version of Emerald?

Now, I read that the upgrade is free . . . does that apply to me? If so, how do I go about downloading or receiving the updated material that I currently do not have?

Then I read the upgrade was $125.00. Does that apply to me?

What is the price of Ruby or the upgrade to Ruby? It can be a ballpark, I just want to know what it will be so I can have it available when it becomes ready. Do you have a ballpart eta when Ruby will be ready for sale?

Thanks in advance.

Mike

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

Okay, I'm a little confused. I purchased KHSO Emerald. I asked what the upgrade price to Ruby would be but all I read about is . . . what looks like an updated version of Emerald?

Now, I read that the upgrade is free . . . does that apply to me? If so, how do I go about downloading or receiving the updated material that I currently do not have?

Then I read the upgrade was $125.00. Does that apply to me?

What is the price of Ruby or the upgrade to Ruby? It can be a ballpark, I just want to know what it will be so I can have it available when it becomes ready. Do you have a ballpart eta when Ruby will be ready for sale?

Thanks in advance.

Mike

Hi Mike.

I didn't know you were talking about a "Ruby" upgrade. The only upgrades that are available now are to the new Khso Emerald from the previous version. In your case, the $125.00 upgrade does not apply. At the most, you'd be paying $75.00 if you did not purchase the Khso/Khcs bundle. If you did purchase that bundle, you'll be getting your upgrade in the mail soon.

Thanks Again,
Kirk

[karmacomposer]

Kirk,

What bundle? When I purchased KHSO (not so long ago) there was only 1 product for one price - $250.00.

I paid that. If there is to be a better or more updated version with new instruments and what not (Ruby), I am going to want it. Just let me know if there will be an upgrade to it.

So, you say that $75 is the price if I did not pay the bundle price? I never even knew there was bundle!!! I would have bought it.

Let me know.

Mike

[sghoughton]

I never saw any bundle either but bought both is that the bundle?

steve

[KirkHunter]

I never saw any bundle either but bought both is that the bundle?

steve

Hi Steve. In your case, I see you purchase the whole thing, but yet back in Oct, and then again as an upgrade in Dec. You qualify for the free upgrade, so look for it in your mail.

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

And I assume there is an upgrade path from Emerald to Ruby? Hmmmm?

Mike

Hi Mike. Check your private message.

Thanks,
Kirk

[karmacomposer]

Kirk,

My main question still remains:

Will there be an option for Emerald owners to UPGRADE to Ruby for a smaller cost than buying Ruby at full retail price?

Thanks.

Mike

[KirkHunter]

Kirk,

My main question still remains:

Will there be an option for Emerald owners to UPGRADE to Ruby for a smaller cost than buying Ruby at full retail price?

Thanks.

Mike

Definitely!

[Aquarius]

Hello mr Hunter!

I bought Emerald ($249) in december 2005 and I want to upgrade to the new version (with Chamber strings included, among others)

So is the $75 upgrade the correct option??

Please enlighten me!

Thomas

[KirkHunter]

Hello mr Hunter!

I bought Emerald ($249) in december 2005 and I want to upgrade to the new version (with Chamber strings included, among others)

So is the $75 upgrade the correct option??

Please enlighten me!

Thomas

Hello Thomas.

Yes, that is the correct option for you. All you have to do is to enter your original invoice number from your original purchase when you go to get the upgrade.

Thanks

[skallman]

I'm still a little confused about the upgrade pricing after reading all these posts as well your website, Kirk. So, let me start from scratch:

I purchased KHSO Emerald in January (without the Chamber Strings sample CD) for $250.00. What would be the upgrade price to KHSO Ruby (which, if I read your website properly, now includes the full Chamber Strings library) ?

All the best,

Steve

[KirkHunter]

I'm still a little confused about the upgrade pricing after reading all these posts as well your website, Kirk. So, let me start from scratch:

I purchased KHSO Emerald in January (without the Chamber Strings sample CD) for $250.00. What would be the upgrade price to KHSO Ruby (which, if I read your website properly, now includes the full Chamber Strings library) ?

All the best,

Steve

Hi Steve.

Sorry for the confusion. There is no upgrade for Ruby yet since it's still in development. The only upgrade right now is to a newer version of Khso Emerald. You can see the upgrade features at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/khsogigaork2.html

When Khso Ruby is completed, or nearly completed, I'll anounce upgrade paths to it for existing Khso Emerald owners. Yes, there will be a discount for all Khso Emerald owners.

Thanks again,
Kirk

[Raindog]

Hi Steve.

Sorry for the confusion. There is no upgrade for Ruby yet since it's still in development. The only upgrade right now is to a newer version of Khso Emerald. You can see the upgrade features at http://www.kirkhunterstudios.com/khsogigaork2.html

When Khso Ruby is completed, or nearly completed, I'll anounce upgrade paths to it for existing Khso Emerald owners. Yes, there will be a discount for all Khso Emerald owners.

Thanks again,
Kirk

And Kirk, please think about those wonderful customers of yours (like me) :D who own BOTH, Emerald library AND the Chamber strings.
Best regards
Raindog

[Raindog]

I just realised that the Emerald strings now include BOTH libraries (chamber strings included). So it would be a nice offer that the original customers who bought BOTH libraries should have a decent upgrade offer for Ruby (see above).
bes regards
Raindog

[KirkHunter]

I just realised that the Emerald strings now include BOTH libraries (chamber strings included). So it would be a nice offer that the original customers who bought BOTH libraries should have a decent upgrade offer for Ruby (see above).
bes regards
Raindog

Don't worry. That'll happen

[Raindog]

Don't worry. That'll happen

I was never worried as I know that you treat your customers like a real gentleman :D