FYI Sonar 5.2 is out

[Brian2112]

...Just thought you Cubase users would want to know.:eek: :D :p

...2112:)

[kstevege]

...Just thought you Cubase users would want to know.:eek: :D :p

...2112:)



Uh Oh. You're going to start a fight here!!

[wja]

Yippee! I'll run right out and get it - NOT!!

You are working with a second tier product - just thought I'd let you sonar users know.

Haven't had a good fight on this forum for awhile. Let's have at it!

[SyQuEsT]

no ... not another fight

PC - MAC
Finale - Sibelius
Soundscape - Protools
[...]
Cakewalk - Cubase ? no !!! :P

[jimyehoo8]

Sonar vs. Garage Band, that's pretty much the class it is in.
Or maybe Sonar vs. Acid and Sound Forge... something like that.

[karmacomposer]

You can put down sonar 5 producer all you want, but I managed to score 11 scores in less than three months with no less than 5 virtual instruments and several sample collections as well as guitars, vocals, percussion and more per production. No crashes. No problems. Everything worked great. The 64 bit bandwidth allowed for incredible sound quality and virtually no mastering was even needed.

My buddy who owns a very expensive supposedly state-of-the-art macintosh pro tools setup, called me the other day bitching and moaning because it kept crashing on him and couldn't get anything done.

Another person I know uses Nuendo and also was having problems with vst instruments crashing on him as well.

Meanwhile, my client is more than thrilled and I will get paid nicely.

You can keep everything else, I'm sticking with Sonar and my reliable Windows XP box.

Mike

[clonewar]

Sonar vs. Garage Band, that's pretty much the class it is in.
Or maybe Sonar vs. Acid and Sound Forge... something like that.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

[howardv]

Maybe not nearly as integrated and full featured as Samplitude/Sequoia, but Sonar's 64-bit mixing engine sure is sweet. And Sonar 5.0.1 was able to handle 34 or so 96k/24-bit stereo tracks on the fly with my little 2.8 ghz p4... wonder if they've upped it again.

Howard

[Brian2112]

Oops didn't mean to start a war - just having a bit of fun...:D

whatever gets you there...and they all do.;)

...2112:)

Sonar gets you there faster though:eek: :p :D - Just Kidding!

[kstevege]

Sonar vs. Garage Band, that's pretty much the class it is in.
Or maybe Sonar vs. Acid and Sound Forge... something like that.


Are you kidding me?

[kbaccki]

Are you kidding me?

Take it easy... comparing a multi-track MIDI/audio sequencer to an audio editor only confirms the ignorance. I mean, what a stupid fncking comparison.

[kbaccki]

You are working with a second tier product - just thought I'd let you sonar users know.

Yes... well... there are some who feel the need to validate their (possibly non-existent?) artistic talents by slapping a "Made With 100% 1st-Tier Product" sticker on the side. Then their are some of us who use the tools at hand and let the artistry speak for itself.

[David Abraham]

Oops didn't mean to start a war - just having a bit of fun...:D


I believe most of the anti-sonar posts are just people joking....if you look around it's kind of obvious by now that Sonar is selling like crazy.

[kstevege]

You are working with a second tier product - just thought I'd let you sonar users know.




What is a second tier product? How does it compare to the tier product you are using?

[Lunatique]

If Logic was still developed for the PC, this fight would be over just like *that*.

Damn you Apple. Damn you!!!

[kitekrazy]

If Logic was still developed for the PC, this fight would be over just like *that*.

Damn you Apple. Damn you!!!

You are proably right. HAve you noticed how expensive Logic is now that it is Mac only? It almost $1000 at the Apple stores.

Then they want to screw those who own Logic by charging an upgrade fee for using the Intel/Mac platform.

Cakewalk is wising up and making products available for the Mac.

[JonFairhurst]

Sonar stinks! Oh. Wait a minute... That's what I use.

In that case, Cubase stinks! :|:

The same goes for the other stuff I don't use! :p

-JF

[clonewar]

Sonar stinks! Oh. Wait a minute... That's what I use.

In that case, Cubase stinks! :|:

The same goes for the other stuff I don't use! :p

-JF

Well said!

[lavoll]

everything with a dongle stinks :P

[Hermitage59]

To be fair, just for a moment, Cakewalk have been getting musos started for a long time with quality 'budget' priced products. That doesn't always equate to poor quality. You've only to read the acres of flyspot written in frustration in many forums about the 'big' players to realise there's a lot trading on the name, and not necessarily producing stable goods.

For instance, I'm about to walkaway from Logic, having reached the point in the circle where i started, parchment and quill. Too much time fixing, peering into a screen trying to figure out why that great lick i just wrote has gone the way of the dodo, with a derisory bug report screen just to acknowledge all is not what it seems under the fisher price styled bonnet.(Come back Emagic, all is forgiven.:D )
Given the research i've done recently, and with the hints and info given out so far, Nuendo 4 is definitely in the picture, but Sonar has a fair chance of joining it too.

These guys (Sonar) have been ahead of the game for at least the last two updates, and again, it seems a stable program that actually does what it says it will.
There is definitely sense in ignoring the reputations, and evaluating the products for useability, not loyalty.
Sonar.
64bit, and it works now, not in update number 125,678 or so.

Nuendo and Sonar on a custom built CRAY with 10TB's of HD running at 50,000 rpm, lashed into a Euphonics MC 5 (Classy bit of kit) with multiple Madi routers shifting Audio at near light speed.

Hmmmm, that would be interesting.....

:)

[fabricioz]

Karmacomposer, what's your setup? I wish I could run my Sonar 5 stable as you.
Any tricks or updates I would need?

[karmacomposer]

I built my computer

It's an AMD 64 bit 3000+

2GB DDR

2TB USB2 hard drives (6 of them) - three USB 2.0 add-on cards

Windows XP Home

Tower case with ultra quiet fans

800 watt PS ultra quiet with 120mm fan

Was using an EMU 1820M, but now have to use my Tascam FW1082 for recording. Quality is the same. Mostly all firewire except for my mics and Korg Karma.

Radeon x800 Pro XT video w/256MB vram

lots of other stuff, but I cannot remember what else I put in there.

My studio room is treated with auralex sound foam (which has zero to do with why my computer is stable - but I thought I'd share).

I get a really nice sound and total reliability thus far.

Actually, that's a lie. I recently had major problems for the very first time on a mission critical project approaching deadline.

I kept having serious audio dropouts - I tore out my EMU 1820M because I thought THAT was the problem (hence why I am using my Tascam).

Still had em. Now I looked at the vsti's I was using and thought a few of them were causing my audio engine in Sonar to shut down.

Still had these random, yet excessive, audio dropouts.

I finally pinpointed the problem.

I recently bought Amplitube 2 and had the dongle plugged into my usb 2.0 hub.

I removed it and all problems went away.

I believe one of the reasons I run a PC and have a very stable system is because

(1) I have good ventillation and keep the room cool.
(2) I do constant file keeping and make sure the computer runs nicely.
(3) I do regular routine maintenance (compressed air, delete temp files, etc)
(4) NO DONGLES (up to now) - see what happens . . . !!!
(5) I really only use the larger scale vsti instruments and effects that are known to be pretty darn stable.
(6) I keep the computer on and running 24/7

Feel free to ask me any other questions.

Mike

[fabricioz]

Hi Karma,

Pretty good setup. Actually, mine is not so different. I built my PC also. An AMD 64 X2 4400+, 2gb RAM ddr400 (4 actually, but it won't boot with 4), , 2x80gb IDE, 2x200gb SATA, 450w Enermax PSU, ATI X550 gpu, a good case with 4 ultra quiet fans, M-Audio Audiophile 2496, Windows XP Pro SP2.

I must say my system is stable. Every problem and crash I had was related to the motherboard (Now I'm using a second asus A8V Deluxe, I had many problems with the first and with a MSI Neo4 Platinum). When running Windows, never had a single problem (besides with that other mobos). The system is really fast.

The problems I'm having are the same you do. Apparently, with no reasons, I get some dropouts. Messing around, I'm finding some ways to resolve it. I believe it's related to instruments and plugins (I don't have any problem using audio only).

I'm really looking forward to use Vista on an Intel Core2Duo setup... maybe until there, all this troubles will be past.