GPO Sibelius Edition/crossgrade now available

[DavidH at Sibelius]

Hi all,

We're pleased to announce that GPO Sibelius Edition is now released. Shipping has started in the UK, the US production is a little behind because of the season, but shipping will commence mid-next-week.

However, most of you here will want to know about the crossgrade for existing GPO users, which is available by download from

http://www.sibelius.com/products/gpo_sibelius/crossgrade.html

for USD 49

Please check the system requirements before you go ahead: also make sure you read and understand the installation instructions (which explain how to move the GPO sample files so that they can be used by both Sibelius and GPO Studio)

VERY IMPORTANT: GPO Sibelius Edition requires you to update your Sibelius 4.0 installation to 4.1: this is a free update and is available at

http://www.sibelius.com/helpcenter/updates/sibelius4/from_4_0.html

Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year from all at Sibelius!

David

[matolen]

Whoo-Hoo!

I can't do this until I get home from work, but how exciting, and a terrific way to end the year! I relish anything that can make GPO work more out-of-box!


I am really looking forward to trying out the program's ability to interpret articulations for GPO straight out of Sib. playback!

[wsuryn]

Nice news but it indicates that if I want to switch to Sibelius GPO from any other notation program using GPO I have to buy a full $219 version containing everything, GPO included. It does not make much sense as I have GPO and already paid for it once. What am I supposed to do in such a case? Witold

[Garritan]

wsuryn, If you are a GPO owner you can crossgrade to Sibelius and then be able to buy the GPO Sibelius Edition for only $49 extra.

[Garritan]

Hi all,

We're pleased to announce that GPO Sibelius Edition is now released. Shipping has started in the UK, the US production is a little behind because of the season, but shipping will commence mid-next-week.

However, most of you here will want to know about the crossgrade for existing GPO users, which is available by download from

http://www.sibelius.com/products/gpo_sibelius/crossgrade.html

for USD 49

Thanks David for posting the fantastic news!

Gary Garritan

[rwayland]

Well, thanks for the notification. I am now downloading Sib 4.1. With a little bit of luck, it will be downloaded by Christmas. So far, I don't know why I need it, as I have not seen anything about the new features, other than the GPO connection, which I don't need, as I use GPO with Sonar, and use Sibelius strictly for score production.

Richard

[matolen]

I downloaded everything and it installed without any problems.

But I could swear that I don't have access to all the GPO instruments. In kontakt player I have a limited number of selections. Or rather in the mixer window if its set to Kontakt player and I see the listing of instruments I can choose, I have access to only a few KS instruments (are these even GPO?)
Also I am sorry to say the sound quality is nowhere near as good as if I use the Garritan studio. This is why I am wondering if I am even using the right samples...

I moved the .nki Garritan files as instructed, I received no error messages, but something seems amiss...

[loogoo]

The Sibelius Kontakt player is limited to 32 slots in total. So they had to create soundsets which contain the most likely instruments for a baroque orchestra, string orchestra, romantic orchestra, etc. Because of these combinations and the limitations of the player, you will not have access to all of the GPO instruments at one time, only those available within any given soundset.

The sound is different, but that's probably because the Sibelius edition uses its own reverb rather than the Ambience reverb that comes with GPO.

It has really simplified GPO playback within Sibelius. I agree that using GPO Studio probably sounds better, but it was always such a pain to set up and tweak the controllers that I never used it. I'll most likely use other means of achieving final playback of a score, but the Sibelius edition at least is a good way of getting the score out of my head and into a more tangible fom with relative ease.

[mxman1]

I agree the sound is not as good, and that's because of the "less than stellar" reverb, but that's easily corrected on a Mac. Get Audio Hijack and you can add any AU or VST plugin to the SIB/GPO output. That means EQ, Compression (forgive me) or Reverb and then record a file. You can even use Ambience with the VST GUI!
I just tried a demo of Altiverb and it makes GPO sing!!!

Todd Kasow

[drmathprog]

At the moment I have only GPO and SONAR. Aside from the vastly better notation and printing capabilities of Sibelius 4, what if anything would I gain by purchasing Sibelius 4 and the crossgrade for GPO Sibelius Edition?

Thanks

[wsuryn]

wsuryn, If you are a GPO owner you can crossgrade to Sibelius and then be able to buy the GPO Sibelius Edition for only $49 extra.
Sorry, but I do not understand. What am I supposed to crossgrade to Sibelius? A notation program? I have already bought a crossgrade David mentionned, but it is a program that crossgrades Sibelius 4.1 to Sibelius that "understands" GPO, so all that requires that you have Sib 4.1 and Kontakt Silver or Gold prior to performing a "crossgrade". Quite an expensive move for a $49 crossgrade. An explanation for dummies, please?
Witold

[DavidH at Sibelius]

Hi matolen

In Sibelius under Play/Playback and Input devices, select the Kontakt Player device and click the Soundsets field. That should list the 10 GPO/Sibelisu Soundsets: select one of these and you shoudl be able to choose in the mixer from the respective set of GPO instruments.

Though the Sibelius Kontakt player has 32 slots, these can be filled with any of 128 instruments - this (not 32) is the limit on the number of instruments in one soundset.

We've put a lot of thought into the combinations of instruments and think we've covered most bases: if you have any suggestions for other combinations, please let us know!

David

[DavidH at Sibelius]

Sorry, but I do not understand. What am I supposed to crossgrade to Sibelius? A notation program? I have already bought a crossgrade David mentionned, but it is a program that crossgrades Sibelius 4.1 to Sibelius that "understands" GPO, so all that requires that you have Sib 4.1 and Kontakt Silver or Gold prior to performing a "crossgrade". Quite an expensive move for a $49 crossgrade. An explanation for dummies, please?
Witold

Hi Witold,

If you already own Sibelius 4 and own "normal" GPO, then the idea is you shoudln't have to buy another copy of the _sounds_, just for the ability to play them in Sibelius. Hence the crossgrade (i.e. doesn't make sense for anyone if either of the above is not true for them)

The cost of the upgrade covers the extra stuff in the Sibelius Edition - a new Kontakt player (NB you don't already need Kontakt Gold to use this, though you do need to have installed Silver as we've used the GM percussion and one or two other instruments from Silver in the soundsets), the soundset definitions that make the sounds available to the Sibelius and the Kontakt Player, and the documentation.

The update from Sibelius 4.0 to 4.1 is free - though it's needed for the Sibelius Sounds support, there's plenty more in it in the way of fixes and feature tweaks/updates.

Hope this is clear,

David

[matolen]

Hi matolen

In Sibelius under Play/Playback and Input devices, select the Kontakt Player device and click the Soundsets field. That should list the 10 GPO/Sibelisu Soundsets: select one of these and you shoudl be able to choose in the mixer from the respective set of GPO instruments.

Though the Sibelius Kontakt player has 32 slots, these can be filled with any of 128 instruments - this (not 32) is the limit on the number of instruments in one soundset.

We've put a lot of thought into the combinations of instruments and think we've covered most bases: if you have any suggestions for other combinations, please let us know!

David

Thank you for this. I also tweaked some setup options and I must say sound and options have improved tremendously and my interest in this has peaked again. I hope to put something together from scratch and try it all out.

[Mattssound]

Well I have my crossgrade installed and fully operational, but as much as I hate to say it, it doesn't sound as good as GPO studio.

The biggest reason for that is, as we've already said, the lack of GPO Studio's reverb. That reverb is as important to the now-famous realism of GPO as the actual samples are.

Are there any plans to try to integrate the reverb in the future?

MsP