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tekhead
03-31-2006, 07:02 PM
I just bought Ivory. It's the Holy Grail. The most amazing pianos imagineable. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Worth every penny.
The installation is a trip. TEN DVDs. Not CDs... DVDs. Over 40 gigs of data. Once you play it though, you understand.
It really is the Holy Grail.
That's great to hear. I'm dying to find a lush full-bodied piano library. From what I've heard, Ivory is that.
mitchb2
04-07-2006, 04:23 PM
What kind of system are you running it on (speed, RAM)?
tekhead
04-07-2006, 04:56 PM
What kind of system are you running it on (speed, RAM)?
MSI K7D dual CPU motherboard with 2.4s and 2 gigs of RAM.
It sounds gorgeous, but it consumes a lot of resources.
Chinablu
04-13-2006, 04:43 PM
I just bought Ivory. It's the Holy Grail. The most amazing pianos imagineable. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Worth every penny.
I agree 100%.
I bought it on yesterday. It runs flawlessly on my laptop (Apple G4/1.33 Ghz PowerBook with 1.5 Gb Ram).
And what a sumptuous sound!
tekhead
04-14-2006, 12:15 AM
I agree 100%.
I bought it on yesterday. It runs flawlessly on my laptop (Apple G4/1.33 Ghz PowerBook with 1.5 Gb Ram).
And what a sumptuous sound!
Isn't it amazing!!
Chinablu
04-14-2006, 09:39 AM
Isn't it amazing!!
Definitely yes!
And don't forget that one gets three pianos (Bosendorfer 290, Steinway D, Yamaha C7) one better than the other...
;)
mitchb2
04-14-2006, 01:58 PM
If anyone is running this on a 2.4GHz with 1 GB or RAM, please post.
tekhead
04-14-2006, 02:22 PM
Definitely yes!
And don't forget that one gets three pianos (Bosendorfer 290, Steinway D, Yamaha C7) one better than the other...
;)
I am definitely partial to the Steinways. Jazz Club D has become my starting point for every project. I also love the German Dry series.
That little switch that moves your ear's perspective from performer to audience is very useful for getting the piano to sit perfectly in mix.
David Abraham
04-14-2006, 04:53 PM
That little switch that moves your ear's perspective from performer to audience is very useful for getting the piano to sit perfectly in mix.
cool! now we're talking....for the time being I'm still holding out though due to to cumulative skepticism regarding sampled pianos.
tekhead
04-14-2006, 05:49 PM
cool! now we're talking....for the time being I'm still holding out though due to to cumulative skepticism regarding sampled pianos.
Of course, that's up to you. I've felt the same way for years. But this really is the Holy Grail. It's completely real. No one could ever tell the difference in a recording.
Of course, being the the room with a live piano is better, but if you recorded that very same live piano, then played that recording back to back against Ivory, it would be impossible to tell them apart. In fact, Ivory would most likely sound a little better unless you had a super competent engineer do your live piano recording.
With this plugin, you also get a lot of other choices, like a nice variety of sound boards, action settings, etc. Of course, it's so nice that it's a virtual instrument because edits appear instantly in the playback.
I've only had it a little while, but now I can't imagine working without it.
David Abraham
04-14-2006, 06:07 PM
Of course, that's up to you. I've felt the same way for years. But this really is the Holy Grail. It's completely real. No one could ever tell the difference in a recording.
Of course, being the the room with a live piano is better, but if you recorded that very same live piano, then played that recording back to back against Ivory, it would be impossible to tell them apart. I've only had it a little while, but now I can't imagine working without it.
thanks for in the info. In the past I have heard several sampled pianos that sounded real enough to me in the -demo-. However there is no joy when playing them either because of artifacts/noise/hissing on certain keys or layers or other subtle issues that make it clear to the -player- that "this aint real"....even if the audience is fooled/pleased.
In my case the experience of a well tuned Steinway simply makes me play better, but with sampled pianos I tend to just play it safe ...and If I'm going to do that - any decent soundfont could do.
So far it seems that Ivory is a joy to play...but man, been there tried that too many times.
still - your enthusiasm is encouraging!
tekhead
04-14-2006, 06:30 PM
On a purely technical level, you have to be impressed that it consumes over forty gigs:eek: on your HD. Boah! That's some *serious* sampling. There's never been anything like it.
David Abraham
04-14-2006, 06:40 PM
On a purely technical level, you have to be impressed that it consumes over forty gigs:eek: on your HD. Boah! That's some *serious* sampling. There's never been anything like it.
:) actually that scares me more. the more samples, the greater the chance of klunkers....depending on the Quality Control ethic of the developer...and since they are new to me....me scared :( :)
...plus 40gigs is a sizeable chunk of laptop hard disk real estate.
Chinablu
04-15-2006, 09:52 AM
It's completely real. No one could ever tell the difference in a recording.
100% true.
I was undecided between Native's Akoustik Piano and Ivory. Both are great, but Ivory has, to me, more than a nuance of greater realism.
I have a classical background, and the Chopin Etude op. 25 n. 6 (http://www.synthogy.com/demo/Chopin_op25n6.mp3) played on Ivory's Steinway definitively convinced me.
Ravel's Ondine (http://www.synthogy.com/demo/Ondine.mp3), played on the Bosendorfer 290, leaves astonished, and give a listen to Larry Hopkin's Steinway Ballade (http://www.synthogy.com/demo/SteinwayBallad.mp3): I could never say it's a sampled grand...
The best 259,00 € I've spent in past 72 hours ;)
David Pogorelec
04-29-2006, 04:02 PM
I am interested to hear comments concerning using Ivory in a realtime playing mode rather than a recording one. I have the ArtVista Virtual Grand Piano, but experience significant latency when playing it concurrently with traditional sound modules (Korg Wavestation, 01R/W, ect.). With the VGP, I am using a P4-2.8 with 3 gigs of ram, with the motherboard audi ported out via SPDIF to an external D/A converter. I use Project 5 as host software. Using this configuration, will I get the same latency problems with Ivory? I still use GigaStudio 2.5 running on a P3-800 and get no latency with pianos there. I was hoping replace my Giga Pianos on the old P3 with Ivory running on the P4, but latency seems to be an issue. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Chinablu
05-07-2006, 01:35 PM
Any news about the release date of the Fazioli add-on for Ivory?
12 velocity layers announced... sounds good... ;)
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