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Olivier
05-04-2006, 06:55 PM
Hi,

Kontakt 2.1 is now the most advanced sampler for Piano

http://www.audiolivepro.com/old_lady.gif

I enjoy Kontakt 2.1 so i offer to all old lady user a beta update for the Old Lady and Kontakt 2.1.

_ convolution pedal down depend on overtones rules and release
_ convolution pedal up + overtones rules pedal up
_ new skin
_ new voices overtones optimization to save CPU

and enhanced overtones script (protected)


Enjoy !

V1.02 here
http://www.audiolivepro.com/old_lady_update_beta_K2.1.zip

link updated (V1.06) - see reply -

Regards,

Olivier

Laurent
05-05-2006, 05:30 AM
Thank's Olivier, interesting example of what K2.1 programming can do for sampled Piano.

I don't now if you plan to improve this in the future, but here is some comments :

- Your script take control of the envelop, with a steep attack. This brings light to many sample starts "tics" in the bass notes. (OldLady original instrument overcome samples "tics" with a lazy 1.5ms attack)

- Sometimes when playing very short chords (with extra-fast grace notes for instance), the PD convolution is bugging and resonnate. NO, I'm not confusing with the releases overtones, this bug is still present when Play_release_con is disabled.

- Release overtones : interesting programming again. Everybody can adjust the level and the envelop to his taste.
I will also try other Impuse files, the one you use makes the overtones coming a little from outside of the piano (at least based on headphone : to "left panned")

Thank's again for sharing this :)

Olivier
05-05-2006, 08:28 AM
- Your script take control of the envelop, with a steep attack. This brings light to many sample starts "tics" in the bass notes. (OldLady original instrument overcome samples "tics" with a lazy 1.5ms attack)")

Yes, i will adjust the value to delete tics.
:)

- Sometimes when playing very short chords (with extra-fast grace notes for instance), the PD convolution is bugging and resonnate. NO, I'm not confusing with the releases overtones, this bug is still present when Play_release_con is disabled.")

It's a bug and not a bug. because i've had a feature :
in a real piano if you play an event note at the right hand and you have more than 3 keys still down (at left of the event note) you hear :
_ overtones
_ and a a beginning of sustain body resonance even if the pedal is up
(like a half sustain pedal)

(pedal up : if you have a few damper free (key down), the piano begin to resonate (i don't speak of dry overtones) near the resonance of pedal down (when all dampers are free)

I've made a algorytm. the amount depend of the KEYS still down.

The effect + dry overtones add realism.

But the problem it that the rules still happen when several keys are played in the same times (chord) . i will fix this in the script.

- Release overtones : interesting programming again. Everybody can adjust the level and the envelop to his taste.
I will also try other Impuse files, the one you use makes the overtones coming a little from outside of the piano (at least based on headphone : to "left panned")

I will add KNOB to control overtones settings and convolution settings

Regards,

Olivier

Olivier
05-05-2006, 10:12 AM
Hi laurent ,

http://www.audiolivepro.com/old_lady_update_beta_K2.1.zip

the zip is updated :

can you check the convolution ?

new : K2.1 OLD LADY 1.05 beta.nki

regards,

Olivier

Laurent
05-05-2006, 10:59 AM
Hi,

It's better but there is sometimes a remaining (shorter) "key-convolution" sound after releasing all notes.

When you do this (all PU) :
- sustained left hand chords
- staccato right hand same chords (overtones + "key-conv" effect sound = OK)
- release left hand chords (overtones are killed but "key-conv" effect still sounds)

This could be anoying when you release the left hand chord very quickly after having played the right hand one. (the remaining "key-conv" effect is longer than the release effect)

S-dahl
05-05-2006, 02:42 PM
Really nice, Thank's!

Except for a sound that remains after playing big staccato chords.

The CPU load and DFD usage is massive...

Olivier
05-05-2006, 07:39 PM
Really nice, Thank's!

Except for a sound that remains after playing big staccato chords.

The CPU load and DFD usage is massive...

Thanks laurent for feedback !

So, i have already another version. I will test it more.

You can reach me at : Frappier.olivier@wanadoo.fr

Regards,

Olivier

wilx
05-05-2006, 09:58 PM
What a horrible sounding thread title...

masimon
05-05-2006, 10:26 PM
:D :D :D English humor. come on it's a sample library.:D :D That was an awesome stomach workout though. My wife still can't stop laughing.:D

Olivier
05-05-2006, 10:32 PM
Hi Laurent,

Version 1.06 online for you :

http://www.audiolivepro.com/Kontakt2.1_OLD_LADY_1.06.zip


:)

Olivier

Laurent
05-06-2006, 06:56 AM
Hi, it's working well now !
Adjusted envelops sound better too.

This gives the Old Lady a youth cure ;)

(not just a skin lifting...)

vic_france
05-06-2006, 12:58 PM
Thank you, Olivier,
This is really lovely! :)