EWS88 MT

[Luigi]

How good is the EWS88 MT compared to Luna II compared to DIGI 9652 compared to Aark 24 compared to delta 10/10?

[marcuspocus]

All those cards are basically IO cards with various latency, ranging from 1ms to more than 20ms (!).

Luna is a digital mixer with 4aux send/return + ch. inserts, automatable by midi.

All audio or midi can be freely routing internally (hw, asio, gsif, mme, midi).

There is a bunch of effects in real time, and possibility to drive internal synths and samplers with extra low latency (typical latency of realtime effects or synth in all creamware card is sub 1ms)

For example, you can route gsif driver out to asio driver in to record giga directly in Logic, all internal with no latency. No need for external mixers.

It\'s like adding external hardware effects right into your giga, cubase, logic, fruityloops, etc... all in real time.

I have 2 creamware cards (Luna2 + Pulsar1), and i would not change for anything else, i did tried midiman 1010, digi001, and a couple other cards....

If you need IOs, get a:
Luna EX for 16adats chan. at 24bits/48khz or 8ch. of 24bits/96khz thru S/MUX
or
Luna Z-Link + A16U, for 16cha. of 24bits/96khz thru firewire.

All creamware card can also do a spdif loop to use digital in/out of real external effects in aux of the internal mixer (like a send/return)

They also provide you a way of adding any number of virtual midi port you can access thru your sequencer (up to 10 on W2K, os limitation), so you can access all four giga port at the same time from Logic, or cubase.

The gsif driver as 32 channels, separated from the 64 asio2 channels, so giga and your sequencer are not competing for channels. That mean you can route all 32 output of giga to Logic thru asio in realtime.

I love creamware, i think it shows... images/icons/smile.gif

[Luigi]

I now regret about my terratec EWS88 MT. I\'d better chosen for Creamware Luna. Does Creamware Luna also have a breakoutbox, or is it only a PCI card?

[marcuspocus]

You can have 2 kind of optional breakout box:

The A16Ultra, with 16 in / 16 out @ 24bits/96khz, balanced

or the Luna IOBox with 8in / 8out @ 24bits/96khz, unbalanced.

IMHO, quality of these compare with those from RME...

[lex]

I have both EWS88MT and LunaII with the 8x8 box.

Forget about EWS88MT when it works it\'s cool, but most of the time it gives you headache.

And LunaII is way too cool...

Thanks again marcuspocus for good advice;)

Alex

[marcuspocus]

You\'re welcomed....

BTW, i didn\'t see ya on planetz !?

[Simon Ravn]

Originally posted by marcuspocus:

All creamware card can also do a spdif loop to use digital in/out of real external effects in aux of the internal mixer (like a send/return)
<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">I wish you were right but that is not true. I have a Pulsar 2 + a Pulsar 1 in the same machine, and I cant get input in the SPDIF of the Pulsar 1 to work... I read somewhere that you have to set Pulsar to SLAVE to SPDIF to be able to use that input. Really stupid. So I have to route OUT of the SPDIF, INTO an RME card on another machine, then back to Pulsar via ADAT - it works, but it\'s a pretty lame routing:)

[marcuspocus]

Yes, you are HALF right... Pulsar 1 doesn\'t support SPDIF loops, but all 2nd generation cards of CW do... My luna has an SPDIF loop with a MindPrint envoice using spdif connections... It\'s working perfectly....

Pulsar have to be slave though, cuz Mindprint doesn\'t support spdif loop itself... But with some digital mixer, like Yamaha\'s, they are supporting spdif loop themself also, so Pulsar2 or Luna can stay Master....

[marcuspocus]

www.infinitevortex.com (\"http://www.infinitevortex.com\") has them for 335$US i think...

And they give you a special xmas bonus

[Luigi]

Thanks for the link, but I\'m European, does anyone know where I can buy the card there?

[lex]

Originally posted by marcuspocus:
You\'re welcomed....

BTW, i didn\'t see ya on planetz !?<font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">No need really, I just pluged it in, set up SFP mixers and modules, and now I just work and enjoy!
(Now Simon\'s going to hate me too, since I sound like your sidekick in a Creamware commercial. But I honestly love this card!)

Alex

[Luigi]

Thanks for your responses! What\'s the price of the Luna II card?

[Simon Ravn]

Luigi - try www.thomann.de (\"http://www.thomann.de\") or www.musicians-gear.com (\"http://www.musicians-gear.com\") for the cheapest place to find Creamware cards.

[Luigi]

Thanks for the links. I ordered the Luna II ex now.
Does this card also support Dolby Digital 5.1 surround?

[marcuspocus]

There is no 5.1 encoder, that\'s for sure, else it would cost 4 times more, but yes, you can read DvD with a dvd software, and send the ac3 stream thru the sdpif to send to a receiver, home cinema stuff etc...