Can MIDI over LAN do this??

[scores4film]

My main sequencer is on a MAC,and midi LAN is not available for MAC yet. Can I use a regular MIDI interface to go from my MAC to Giga machine 1 and then MIDI over Lan from Giga machine 1 to Giga machine 2. If I can do this, how can I still manage all the LAN ports from my sequencer on the MAC??

Thanks,

Colin

[§eth]

have ya checked the midi over lan website yet? midioverLAN (\"http://www.musiclab.com/shop/index.htm#121\")

[jzuker]

Seth,

I looked on that site you posted. I couldn\'t find any mention of using a Mac in a Midi-over-lan network. Maybe I missed it.

It would be great if this could work. Perhaps you need a program like \'Dave\' which allows you to network Macs with PCs. The problem is loading the Midioverlan software itself on the Mac, if its PC only.

[csduke]

Colin,

Looks like MOL won\'t work with your setup since it must be installed on all machines for both Tx and Rx.

Sonic Control Review \"Setting up MIDIoverLAN+ is actually a lot easier that you\'d think - it was certainly a lot easier than I initially thought it would be. Essentially, you need to install the small driver file by running its automated installer on each machine that you plan to be running MIDI to. This includes your \"main\" workstation, presumably where you will be running your sequencer and on your \"sub-workstations\" where you could be running other programs like soft-synths or soft-samplers.\"

...

\"... there isn\'t a version of MIDIoverLAN+ for Mac users yet. However, MusicLab says that they are considering adding Mac support for their future products. So, if there is enough demand for something like MIDIoverLAN+ on the Mac platform (and I don’t see why there wouldn’t be), MAC support just might be on the way. To those of you who are Mac users out there that are reading this thinking “Yeah, I would love to see MIDIoverLAN+ on the Mac”, I would encourage you to contact MusicLab and let them know through their web site.\"

[scores4film]

Thanks for the info guys. I\'ll request MAC support on their site

Colin

[Ian Livingstone]

anyone know what the added latency is in using Midi over LAN?

Ian

[slagni]

Anyone know if MOL works in a wireless PC network? I\'ve asked on the MOL forum but received no response.

[mattzen]

I have been suprised to notice no added latency. In fact, I swear it\'s even tighter than standard MIDI. Unbeatable product!

[Ian Livingstone]

I have been suprised to notice no added latency. In fact, I swear it\'s even tighter than standard MIDI. Unbeatable product! <font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Arial\">Hope the missus doesn\'t read this forum (kinda unlikely) - I\'ve just bought 2 more AMT8s and 4 4*4 Midisports....
Still - the rack\'s looking cool.

Ian

[mattzen]

Yikes! We just sold a bunch of AMT8s and midisport 4x4s because a $40 program replaced thousands of dollars of hardware. I say you should take the midi interfaces back and recoup some dough.

[Ian Livingstone]

yeah - but my REAL midi definitely sounds warmer and less digital ;-)

Ian

[christian marin]

hi scores4film,
yes, it would work as you described - connect midi physically from your mac to a pc, set e.g. lan0 out to be echoed to a virtual midiport (pipe), route the pipe to e.g. nemesis-port1 or use it as midi-in for the performance-tool
on the second pc use lan0 in and route the same way or however you need

the latency is much better than with physical midiports, as there is no opto-coupling involved, which is responsible for most of the latency

dave will not help, as it\'s an application for _filesharing_ and doesn\'t use TCP/IP, besides you would need to run a copy of MoL on your mac, which is impossible for obvious reasons ;-)

christian

[scores4film]

Christian,

Would you mind sharing even more details about how to make this work?? I really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Colin

[mike harper]

christian:
\" the latency is much better than with physical midiports, as there is no opto-coupling involved, which is responsible for most of the latency\"

the lan would be faster then hardwiring two midi
interfaces?? i don\'t understand
thanks

[christian marin]

hi mike,
i\'m pretty sure, you know what happens to the midi-signal coming e.g. from your keyboard electrical (\"http://www.midi.org/about-midi/electrical.shtml\") - this results in a certain latency caused by the physical interface and the driver behind. the weak element is the opto-isolator (switching *slowly*) and in best case you will notice a latency of at least 2.5 milliseconds (some devices up to 8 or more milliseconds), the same on the midi-out, so chaining midi-devices will finally lead to an incorrect timing of the chained devices.
furthermore the midi-protocol uses a baudrate of 31,250 (~ 31 Kbit/sec) whereas a 100 Mbit network uses - as the name says - 100 Mbit/sec, which is ~3000-times faster, so the only latency left will be the one of the driver and the software behind.
that\'s it, christian

[christian marin]

hi scores4film, usually your midi-device (interface, sequencer, sampler, other tool) allows you to choose a device/midiport for in and another for out, some have an option for thru.
so think of a MoL-port as of any other midi-port on a physical device and set the apropriate routing for your signals. MoL-in and -out will show up in your application as all the physical midi-ports on your computer. so lan0-out on the first (sending) computer is connected to lan0-in on the second (recieving) via network like midiport1-out on the first to e.g. midiport1-in on the second using a midi-cable.
analog to the option in your midi-device to echo a signal from midiport1-in to midiport1-out )(e.g. to use some channels on a chained device) you can echo lan0-in and/or lan0-out to another physical or virtual midi-port.
i have to admit, i don\'t know anything similar (even not virtual midi-ports) for macs until now except distributed midi (\"http://www.dmidi.org/\") which is currently under development, but maybe someone here can give me a hint on others
christian